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:sas1:Did I decide what right and wrong are? Then morality is subject to my whims. Subjective.

:sas2:Or am I the best knower of what's right and wrong? That would mean I didn't create them. They exist without me.
:sas1:Did I decide what right and wrong are? Then morality is subject to my whims. Subjective.

:sas2:Or am I the best knower of what's right and wrong? That would mean I didn't create them. They exist without me.

The answer is neither. The essence of what is morally good is part of God directly. When Jesus became sin Almighty God could not look upon Him.

If it is wrong to torture babies for fun and that applies to all people at a given time then it is objectively wrong. Can't have objective morals without an objective moral law giver.
 

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You do not do this out of the good in your heart. In context that was given to the ancient Hebrews to show they were set apart. No other historical group at that time had a provision to let indentured servants go.
Did god inspire those passages out of the goodness of his heart? :lupe:

Before his omniscient mind, changed his mind? :lupe:
 

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The answer is neither. The essence of what is morally good is part of God directly. When Jesus became sin Almighty God could not look upon Him.

If it is wrong to torture babies for fun and that applies to all people at a given time then it is objectively wrong. Can't have objective morals without an objective moral law giver.
so why have an opinion? :lupe:
 

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The answer is neither. The essence of what is morally good is part of God directly. When Jesus became sin Almighty God could not look upon Him.

If it is wrong to torture babies for fun and that applies to all people at a given time then it is objectively wrong. Can't have objective morals without an objective moral law giver.
The bible talks about bashing babies on rocks tho
 

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:sas1:Did I decide what right and wrong are? Then morality is subject to my whims. Subjective.

:sas2:Or am I the best knower of what's right and wrong? That would mean I didn't create them. They exist without me.
Come down off that cloud so I can snuff you and hang you upside down from a cross.
 

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Did god inspire those passages out of the goodness of his heart? :lupe:

Before his omniscient mind, changed his mind? :lupe:

Do you know of any other group that guaranteed freedom every seven years? Even if you indentured yourself with one month left you were still let go during the Jubilee year.

Do you? Is that not good?
 

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Yeah but so is the essence of what is morally evil, as I've demonstrated billions of times by giving humans the ability to know suffering and then throwing cancer, AIDS, hurricanes, and Justin Beiber at them.

Good can exist without evil. Evil can't exist without good. You can have light without shadows but you can't have a shadow without light.

Free will is the only way to guarantee that a person will truly give their heart. People have chosen every single day. Some believe believe while others mock. Nice thing about that is if true then you have just proven Christianity true.
 

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The bible talks about bashing babies on rocks tho

In context it is referring to all the false denominations that return to their mother. Haven't you seen over the last few years how Francis has tried to join the Pentecostal, Lutheran, Episcopalian, Anglican, Greek Orthodox, Russian Orthodox, Protestant and even now Islam?

Religion doesn't save your soul only Jesus.

Acts 4:12 KJV Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

Romans 10:8-10 KJV But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; [9] That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. [10] For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
 
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