Let's discuss the true meaning behind the Bible

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Just here to say that reading @Dafunkdoc_Unlimited 's post on these matters is always the most frustrating and eyerolling inducing shyt ever. Dude post like he's The Riddler

no beef tho, I'm sure ur a nice guy outside of such topics

have a nice day

There's a reason for that and it's because EVERY one of these conversations involves the most theologically ignorant and anachronistic expositions from critics and wanna be cult leaders who deny Christianity's core tenets, but rely on them to post their nonsense opinions on the subject. Then, when I correct them, they resort to strawmen, ad homs, question-begging, badgering, etc. as if I haven't successfully defended and articulated my position for decades against those much more qualified, and less hypocritical, than the majority of cats on this board.​

 

[Aviso]

Fake land for the fake Israelites. The real Israelites are the (not all) blacks that went thru specific historical occurrences that match Deuteronomy 28. And no other group of people match these occurrences more than them



What do they say about broken clocks again?


Glad you see where I’m going with this. But yea the NT is mostly babble that regurgitates what the OT said with its new gentile spin to it. Most of revelation is piggybacking off Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Zecariah etc... all compiled into one book. It’s babble

What you look up or at is on you. I was just explaining to you that the only way to take the OT is literally. God in there says He’ll literally (not figuratively) scatter and regather His people. That’s why you want to run to Jesus and the NT, because that’s where you can get off your new age “not literal but figurative” nonsense. The OT? Not so much

I was waiting for you to cite Deuteronomy 28. Most people cite the curses in Deuteronomy 28 as a way to connect us (blacks) to the Bible. Not that this is necessarily bad or wrong; however, as I told you before you responded, ensure that you know what exoteric and esoteric means before attempting to demonstrate only the literal aspects of the Bible. First, there are two parts to Deuteronomy, blessings and curses. The blessings are even mentioned BEFORE the curses. Nevertheless, most people like you only focus on the curses and say see it's about us black people. Again, while that may or may not be true that Blacks are the true Israelites, what have you to say about the blessings of Deuteronomy 28? Are the blessings for or about us too or only the curses? This is how the Israelites and people like you stay trapped in the wrong state of mind. You only acknowledge the negativity. Also, you didn't even consider the deeper esoteric meaning which is as follows:

The Israelites represent thoughts that once had the illumination of Spirit, but that have gone down into, and have become obscured by, matter and material conditions.

God gave Moses the commandments in an attempt to enlighten these lost people. God's commandments were a means to control, and to direct every thought according to the harmonious law of love one to another. Yet, the Israelites, just like you, consistently rejected these divine ideas.

When one is operating at a lower frequency, God's divine ideas are concealed from ones awareness. So, the New Testament represents a new covenant or consciousness. You would know this information if you weren't so busy disregarding the New Testament as Gentile babble. The new covenant replaced the commandments as outlined in Hebrews 8:7-13

For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. 8 But God found fault with the people and said:

“The days are coming, declares the Lord,
when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
9 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they did not remain faithful to my covenant,
and I turned away from them,
declares the Lord.
10 This is the covenant I will establish with the people of Israel
after that time, declares the Lord.
I will put my laws in their minds
and write them on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
11 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest.
12 For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.

13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.

The new covenant was made because the Israelites of the Old Testament could not keep the commandments. In other words, they could not maintain the correct state of mind and follow God's laws. So Hebrews 8 notes that God put new thoughts in the Israelite's minds or consciousness and that Israel will no longer need to rely on the commandments as they will be one with God just as Jesus said: I and my Father are One. Peace!

 

[Aviso]

Because YOU keep trying to equate it with other things J, the Apostles/Disciples, and the Early Church Fathers didn't.​

I am not trying to do anything. The work is already done my friend:

John 10:10 King James Version
10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Once you remove the wool from your third eye, you will get what I am conveying. Until then, Shalom!

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

I am not trying to do anything.

Post-count/subject says otherwise.​

 

[BulletProof]

Fairytales to promote hypocrisy and and originally a tool to manipulate the illiterate masses.

 

[Everythingg]

I was waiting for you to cite Deuteronomy 28. Most people cite the curses in Deuteronomy 28 as a way to connect us (blacks) to the Bible. Not that this is necessarily bad or wrong; however, as I told you before you responded, ensure that you know what exoteric and esoteric means before attempting to demonstrate only the literal aspects of the Bible. First, there are two parts to Deuteronomy, blessings and curses. The blessings are even mentioned BEFORE the curses. Nevertheless, most people like you only focus on the curses and say see it's about us black people. Again, while that may or may not be true that Blacks are the true Israelites, what have you to say about the blessings of Deuteronomy 28? Are the blessings for or about us too or only the curses? This is how the Israelites and people like you stay trapped in the wrong state of mind. You only acknowledge the negativity.

Well my guy, blessings come with obedience and curses with disobedience. Blacks have ONLY been disobeying so that’s the only reality that can be spoken of at the moment. The ones who have turned back are being recognized as being in obedience which is why the current world is being brought down to make way for the world to come where they will rule...

Also, you didn't even consider the deeper esoteric meaning which is as follows:

The Israelites represent

A literal nation of people

God gave Moses the commandments in an attempt to enlighten these lost people. God's commandments were a means to control, and to direct every thought according to the harmonious law of love one to another. Yet, the Israelites, just like you, consistently rejected these divine ideas.

Nope. Again, alot of Israelites today have turned back to following the law given to Moses today.

When one is operating at a lower frequency, God's divine ideas are concealed from ones awareness. So, the New Testament represents a new covenant or consciousness. You would know this information if you weren't so busy disregarding the New Testament as Gentile babble. The new covenant replaced the commandments as outlined in Hebrews 8:7-13

For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. 8 But God found fault with the people and said:

“The days are coming, declares the Lord,
when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
9 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they did not remain faithful to my covenant,
and I turned away from them,
declares the Lord.
10 This is the covenant I will establish with the people of Israel
after that time, declares the Lord.
I will put my laws in their minds
and write them on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
11 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest.
12 For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.

13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.

The new covenant was made because the Israelites of the Old Testament could not keep the commandments. In other words, they could not maintain the correct state of mind and follow God's laws. So Hebrews 8 notes that God put new thoughts in the Israelite's minds or consciousness and that Israel will no longer need to rely on the commandments as they will be one with God just as Jesus said: I and my Father are One. Peace!

More New Testament gentile babble

Here’s the actual new covenant according to the OT:

Spoiler

Jeremiah 31
31 “The days are coming,” declares the Lord,
“when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
32 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they broke my covenant,
though I was a husband to them,”
declares the Lord.
33 “This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time,” declares the Lord.
“I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
34 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,”
declares the Lord.
“For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.”

Nothing about the new testaments babble about the new covenant. No mention of a fictitious Jesus character. Nothing about His commandments being replaced.The new covenant/agreement was that God would place His law (commandments)on Israel/Judah (not everyone’s) heart and that they’d all know Him.

The OT is straightforward. Israelites punished/scattered when they disobeyed. In the end regathered/blessed when they obey. There’s no other way to look at it which is why you have to run to the NT to make it make sense.

 

[Dzali OG]

Your misinterpreting Scripture. This christ consciousness stuff is from eastern religions and thought. None of it is biblical or what the original authors intended.

It's not from eastern religion, and who made the "original authors" the authority?

 

[Dzali OG]

Fake land for the fake Israelites. The real Israelites are the (not all) blacks that went thru specific historical occurrences that match Deuteronomy 28. And no other group of people match these occurrences more than them



What do they say about broken clocks again?


Glad you see where I’m going with this. But yea the NT is mostly babble that regurgitates what the OT said with its new gentile spin to it. Most of revelation is piggybacking off Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Zecariah etc... all compiled into one book. It’s babble

What you look up or at is on you. I was just explaining to you that the only way to take the OT is literally. God in there says He’ll literally (not figuratively) scatter and regather His people. That’s why you want to run to Jesus and the NT, because that’s where you can get off your new age “not literal but figurative” nonsense. The OT? Not so much

"His people"? So you reduce God to a nationalist and a real estate agent?

This is the Supreme being to you?

 

[Dzali OG]

Well my guy, blessings come with obedience and curses with disobedience. Blacks have ONLY been disobeying so that’s the only reality that can be spoken of at the moment. The ones who have turned back are being recognized as being in obedience which is why the current world is being brought down to make

So only blacks are disobeying lol?

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

Post-count/subject says otherwise.​

he seems decent enough but 114 out of his 312 total posts since 2012 are in this thread

 

[Dzali OG]

@Aviso, there is one manner in which we are slightly wrong. Using our own knowledge.

All of us are God, meaning we all have the power to create our own reality.

The rule is, you can't subject another soul to YOUR reality. Not saying we are. But it helps you make sense of what you're experiencing with @Dafunkdoc_Unlimited and others.

Their reality is god is a outside entity at this moment. In our reality they're wrong, but in theirs, it's accurate. Now they are wrong when it comes to them trying to recruit and damn those who don't subscribe.

They have created the entity they believe in! THEY will make it to heaven or burn in hell. Only thing is, they can't force you or me into their reality.

Remember we are all God.

 

[GrindtooFilthy]

I posted this in the thread about God needing to forgive us for our sins, but I think it's important that many of you read this to truly understand the Bible.

The Bible is not to be taken literally. The stories are simply a means to teach you how to raise YOUR consciousness to that of God. Each Bible story represents various states of mind.

We are God as men but aren't aware of it until we reach the highest state of mind which is the Christ Consciousness. I AM is God or your awareness of being. To know this is when you can truly say that you are one with God and made in his image or as Jesus put it, "I and my Father are one."

Jesus stated time and time again that the Kingdom of God is in man, not outside of man, in the sky or anywhere else. What is the Kingdom of God? The realm of infinite wisdom, peace and right ideas that is obtained through a higher awareness of self, not through money, fame and fortune.

Of course many will doubt this, but it's true. Many doubt because the Bible is setup as a book of stories that don't seem relevant to history or make sense at all. In addition, many have been taught to search for a God outside of themselves. However, the Bible is simply a parable of exoteric and esoteric meaning used to teach you to think beyond your current issues and become one with an unconditional loving energy that exists within you. The exoteric meaning is the literal stories that you read. Again, do not simply read the stories and assume it's history. Instead, read each story and search for the deeper or esoteric meaning that can help you raise your state of mind.

If you've actually read the Bible, you know that Jesus only spoke in parables. Mark 4:34, KJV: "But without a parable spake he not unto them".
Jesus spoke only parables because not every mind is ready for this type of awakening. Once you have awakened to the truth of your true divine identity, you will realize that YOU create your own reality through your thoughts because you are one with the power of God. If YOU don't like what you're seeing in the world, then YOU need to crucify your old ways or put to death the thoughts of sin, which is the true meaning behind Jesus' crucifixion. Sin simply means erroneous thoughts or thinking. To change, you simply need to cross out those thoughts or repent which means to think again. Your ego, which is based in pride and fear, are the main things that keep you from being aware of the fact that we are pure consciousness. Please get past the Bible stories and look within yourself or as eastern religions say, know thyself. With that being said, your sins or erroneous thoughts are already forgiven when you awaken to this higher awareness. In other words, forgive yourself and stop looking for things outside of you to save you. Be a light to the world by thinking right thoughts.

The master formula to a higher awareness can be found in the verse Matthew 6:33 "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you."

Simply stated, you must express love and righteousness in all that you do so that a higher awareness can be added to your overall being. Stop believing in fear, hate, anger, bitterness and pride, and be that better GODLY version of yourself! Let's discuss...

You could say the same for the Torah and the Quran, Bhuddism actually takes this concept to very next level

 

[Aviso]

Well my guy, blessings come with obedience and curses with disobedience. Blacks have ONLY been disobeying so that’s the only reality that can be spoken of at the moment. The ones who have turned back are being recognized as being in obedience which is why the current world is being brought down to make way for the world to come where they will rule...




A literal nation of people



Nope. Again, alot of Israelites today have turned back to following the law given to Moses today.



More New Testament gentile babble

Here’s the actual new covenant according to the OT:

Spoiler

Jeremiah 31
31 “The days are coming,” declares the Lord,
“when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
32 It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they broke my covenant,
though I was a husband to them,”
declares the Lord.
33 “This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel
after that time,” declares the Lord.
“I will put my law in their minds
and write it on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
34 No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest,”
declares the Lord.
“For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.”

Nothing about the new testaments babble about the new covenant. No mention of a fictitious Jesus character. Nothing about His commandments being replaced.The new covenant/agreement was that God would place His law (commandments)on Israel/Judah (not everyone’s) heart and that they’d all know Him.

The OT is straightforward. Israelites punished/scattered when they disobeyed. In the end regathered/blessed when they obey. There’s no other way to look at it which is why you have to run to the NT to make it make sense.

The bolded is very telling. So you really believe that Blacks were/are the only ones that were disobedient? As I said my dude, don't be so literal with the text because you'll wind up saying silly stuff like the bolded.

Also, the verse in Isaiah is still conveying what I mentioned in the New Testament, that God's new covenant is in the mind or consciousness. Peace!

 

[Aviso]

So only blacks are disobeying lol?

Bro, when I read that part I was like hmm. So enslaving people for 400 years isn't disobedience? Jim crow, racial profiling, colonialism, nuclear bombings, political assassinations and everything else isn't disobedience? Just what black people do. Smh, and they wonder why I am telling them to stop taking the Bible so literally and focus on their own state of mind or consciousness.

 

[Dzali OG]

Bro, when I read that part I was like hmm. So enslaving people for 400 years isn't disobedience? Jim crow, racial profiling, colonialism, nuclear bombings, political assassinations and everything else isn't disobedience? Just what black people do. Smh, and they wonder why I am telling them to stop taking the Bible so literally and focus on their own state of mind or consciousness.

Like I said, over at solarvision debate league, we beat up the black hebrew israelites so bad they've begun evolving their doctrine.

Over there, they admit they're africans now lol. Some of them admit they only adapt the culture because aas don't have a culture.

See we got into the genealogy, which these negroes can't prove any genetic ties to those goat herders from Iran.

The darkside there has a "burn the bible" campaign. Not because the bible is wrong, it's because the average person doesn't understand what they're reading. So it's hurting them.

By the way there's a debate starting now




Bluu is darkside and Ach Malak is a israelite