lets face it, kinect is the trojan horse that has destroyyed xbox

[winb83]

Without Kinect it's just a weaker console, what's the point of buying one now?

because it has games you want on it. let's be real here upscaled 792p and upscaled 900p who really cares? If you really value 1080p 60 FPS you've got a gaming PC with a GTX 780 or R9 290 in it. what we have here are two consoles that mostly fail the 1080p 60 fps test. One of them can sometimes come close and the other one has a bit more distance on it but both typically fail that standard.

saying the PS4 is more powerful than the Xbox One is an exaggeration in the same vein that you having $150 and me having $100 makes you richer than me. The buying power that extra $50 gets you isn't worth bragging about.

 

[jadillac]

I thought Kinnect was successful on 360. I'm not up on these console wars, so what happened between then and the XB1?

MS really saw the Wii and said, lets get that market too!

It's clear to see how bad of a decision it was for them to do that. They should have just waited til this gen to drop the Kinect, it's not like anybody cared about that shyt on 360 anyway, and it would have gave them a gimmick coming into this gen. They used it as a beta test and still fukked up later on.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

MS really saw the Wii and said, lets get that market too!

It's clear to see how bad of a decision it was for them to do that. They should have just waited til this gen to drop the Kinect, it's not like anybody cared about that shyt on 360 anyway, and it would have gave them a gimmick coming into this gen. They used it as a beta test and still fukked up later on.

Damn that's the first time I've ever heard that theory. That's fukking amazing!!

If they never dropped kinect, nobody would have any clue about it or what it could do. Sony would have still dropped move and caught that dud. Or maybe tied them.

Then e3 comes out and they introduce the xb1 and at the same time, for the first time ever, you have this motion machine with no controls.... Etc etc

That would have blown sony out the water. People wouldn't have gave any fukks about the always connected cause they'd be too busy being amazed by this new tech. Everyone would run out and get one and have to get the system too. So those record breaking numbers would be system selling numbers





Instead people got kinect on 360. Had a good 1-2 years to figure out it was trash. And nobody gave two shyts about a kinect 2 and focused in on everything else except that

 

[Fatboi1]

because it has games you want on it. let's be real here upscaled 792p and upscaled 900p who really cares? If you really value 1080p 60 FPS you've got a gaming PC with a GTX 780 or R9 290 in it. what we have here are two consoles that mostly fail the 1080p 60 fps test. One of them can sometimes come close and the other one has a bit more distance on it but both typically fail that standard.

saying the PS4 is more powerful than the Xbox One is an exaggeration in the same vein that you having $150 and me having $100 makes you richer than me. The buying power that extra $50 gets you isn't worth bragging about.

not this dumb ass strawman argument again .

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

because it has games you want on it. let's be real here upscaled 792p and upscaled 900p who really cares? If you really value 1080p 60 FPS you've got a gaming PC with a GTX 780 or R9 290 in it. what we have here are two consoles that mostly fail the 1080p 60 fps test. One of them can sometimes come close and the other one has a bit more distance on it but both typically fail that standard.

saying the PS4 is more powerful than the Xbox One is an exaggeration in the same vein that you having $150 and me having $100 makes you richer than me. The buying power that extra $50 gets you isn't worth bragging about.

So if you had an option of a mustang or a mustang gt and they were both the same price, which would you get? Even tho neither are a Shelby cobra mustang. It still matters

 

[GoldenGlove]

Damn that's the first time I've ever heard that theory. That's fukking amazing!!

If they never dropped kinect, nobody would have any clue about it or what it could do. Sony would have still dropped move and caught that dud. Or maybe tied them.

Then e3 comes out and they introduce the xb1 and at the same time, for the first time ever, you have this motion machine with no controls.... Etc etc

That would have blown sony out the water. People wouldn't have gave any fukks about the always connected cause they'd be too busy being amazed by this new tech. Everyone would run out and get one and have to get the system too. So those record breaking numbers would be system selling numbers





Instead people got kinect on 360. Had a good 1-2 years to figure out it was trash. And nobody gave two shyts about a kinect 2 and focused in on everything else except that

Yup, Sony only got into the Motion Control shyt with the Move because of their competitors doing so. I know they already had the Playstation Eye, but yeah... nobody really took it serious.

Sony just let MS botch everything, all they had to do was do exactly the opposite of what MS was doing this gen

 

[Rico]

The trojan horse was their lack of studios. While they have studios none are really that great. For instance... its great that they have turn10 and all that but the problem is they don't have enough people developing for the kinect to commit to it like they did. Rare did a good job well after the fact. So by year 1 there will be one kinect game that was worth it.

 

[Liquid]

The funniest thing was Kinect was the most innovate of the motion control on consoles
But no one including me really give a sh*t about it

Leave that goofy sh* t for gay ass PC gamers

PC is the platform that dictates where things go. Microsoft of all companies should know that. The only thing consoles ever get props for is standardizing the controller input...that's it.

PC gamers never adopted Kinect...I knew it was a wrap after that.

 

[BlvdBrawler]

Big shout out to my real life friend who works at EA who after the xbox one reveal told me ps4 was going to flop and that the kinect was a trojan horse for living rooms across the world.

Duh. MS change in strategy is honestly one of the best things that could have happened for America.

 

[BlvdBrawler]

If it would of played out how Microsoft wanted it would of been the ultimate Nsa device. it was apparent from 360 that developers wear not going to waste time making proerity AAA titles

This is what gets me. Like... how in theeee fukk do people not see what MS and NSA tried to do here?

 

[winb83]

not this dumb ass strawman argument again .

its not a straw man argument. If I want to play Halo or Quantum Theory I can't on a PS4. That's why I buy an Xbox One. Some of my favorite games of all time were PS2 games. It was the weakest console of it's generation (excluding the Dreamcast which was abandoned).

The whole console power argument is garbage. If you care about power when it comes to video games there's really only one choice on the market that will give you real raw power. Nobody on a console is gonna be playing Watch Dogs at 1080p 60 FPS. Both consoles will be playing at some inferior to full HD resolution upscaled to that.

In June the PS4 is $399 and the Xbox One is $399. As a gamer you take a look at the upcoming libraries and the one that has more games you want you buy. Maybe you look at the extra features of the system like XBO's media functionality but power is mostly a moot point.

I elected to buy Madden 25 on the XBO owning both consoles and I couldn't tell you what I was missing graphically not buying it on the PS4. Haven't lost an ounce of sleep over it either.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

Trojan Horse? Metaphor doesnt make sense because they sabotaged themselves.

 

[Olu Dara]

Big shout out to my real life friend who works at EA who after the xbox one reveal told me ps4 was going to flop and that the kinect was a trojan horse for living rooms across the world.

He was wrong about one thing at least

 

[Fatboi1]

its not a straw man argument. If I want to play Halo or Quantum Theory I can't on a PS4. That's why I buy an Xbox One. Some of my favorite games of all time were PS2 games. It was the weakest console of it's generation (excluding the Dreamcast which was abandoned).

I'm not saying buying an Xbox for it's exclusive games is invalid, heck I'm planning on copping an XB1 later this year when Halo w/e drops. The argument you were making was that the hardware deficit was neglible and saying it doesn't matter when the fact that it's been such a hot topic online says otherwise.

The whole console power argument is garbage. If you care about power when it comes to video games there's really only one choice on the market that will give you real raw power. Nobody on a console is gonna be playing Watch Dogs at 1080p 60 FPS. Both consoles will be playing at some inferior to full HD resolution upscaled to that.

Just because someone cares about power doesn't mean they have to get a gaming PC as it's been detailed frequently as to why some folks don't want to. I know folks that simply don't want to game on PC for irrational reasons such as convenience, space issues and ignorance. You may not think like that but there are folks that are really like that.

In June the PS4 is $399 and the Xbox One is $399. As a gamer you take a look at the upcoming libraries and the one that has more games you want you buy. Maybe you look at the extra features of the system like XBO's media functionality but power is mostly a moot point.

What games that particular person wants to play mostly boils downs to multiplats if we have to keep it real. Nowadays most games are multiplatform and the exclusive titles are icing on the cake. For a person like me, exclusives are the cake itself since I have the option to play a game on PC if it's console performance bothers me. A game like Transistor which comes out in a few days plays in 1080p/60fps on PS4 and it's coming out on PC too but I also factored in things like remote play on my PS4 to the Vita, not owning many digital psn games on PS4 at the moment and it's clear what I'd buy that game on. If I had a Xbox One right now and that game was also coming out on it but would be rendered in 900p, it'd be kind of dumb to buy it on there unless I just wanted something to play on it.

I elected to buy Madden 25 on the XBO owning both consoles and I couldn't tell you what I was missing graphically not buying it on the PS4. Haven't lost an ounce of sleep over it either.

Madden or EA games right now aren't really games worth using as a barometer for power differences.
Something like Metal Gear Solid:Ground Zeroes, Tomb Raider, Call of Duty, Trials Fusion, where the game is either running at 720p or 30fps @ 1080p on the XB1 and it's a big difference.

 

[ORDER_66]

because it has games you want on it. let's be real here upscaled 792p and upscaled 900p who really cares? If you really value 1080p 60 FPS you've got a gaming PC with a GTX 780 or R9 290 in it. what we have here are two consoles that mostly fail the 1080p 60 fps test. One of them can sometimes come close and the other one has a bit more distance on it but both typically fail that standard.

saying the PS4 is more powerful than the Xbox One is an exaggeration in the same vein that you having $150 and me having $100 makes you richer than me. The buying power that extra $50 gets you isn't worth bragging about.

A powerful Brand New Gears of war game is the only reason I myself would consider buying an xbox one. Everything else they have been showing me has been




And another reason the xbox one is failing is because of Don Mattrick... It wasnt just the Kinect it was stupid policies of corporate nikkas who sat in a boardroom determined to fukk over the core gamer and pander to the casual market trying to emulate the Wii's success...