Let's face the facts, the minute food stamps are cut off, America is going to burn

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notPsychosiz said:
Working is overrated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refusal_of_work

85 - 90% of jobs are meaningless. From making sandwiches at Subway to being the CEO of Apple... the world will go on regardless of whether you show up to work or not.

There is no shortage of food or housing in America.
There are enough empty houses already built to simply give every homeless person one right now. They are bulldozing homes in Detroit as we speak.
When politicians and newscasters say that there is not enough food to feed everyone what they in fact mean is that everyone does not have enough money to purchase food. Not the same thing. Not by a long shot.

Repettitive tasks are intentionally not automated to keep people actively involved in the work force.
This maintains the current structure of wealth/power in which you wake up everyday and basically tapdance for a piece of paper that says you have earned some food.

Foodstamps just skips the tapdancing.
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But who should work for you to enjoy?
You think those who are working are fools?
 
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If they cut them off.. the situation will pretty much be the same for poor black folks.. alot of them been starving but they adapt the best way they can

The poor white folks.. the ones that "hate" nikkas so much and never take the blame for using welfare... you'll see a whole new wave of crime jumping off by them.. You'll see crazy shyt like this, done by desparate white folks...



bytch and her boyfriend put a bomb on dude and had him rob a bank (he thought he was apart of the plan)... and then blew him to smithereens, when he got caught in a standoff with the cops

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Most of it is spent on unhealthy garbage anyway. To hell with them.
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Because healthy food is expensive as fukk....
 
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Chris.B said:
But who should work for you to enjoy?
You think those who are working are fools?
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I don't think those who are working are fools. Not at all. But I do believe they are being exploited.

I'm sure you have heard the term "busy-work" and that is what most work is. All wage jobs are variants of busy work. You are not rewardwd based on what service you are providing, but rather how long and how much time you devote. This is to ensure you have minimal free time because as your free time increases your worldliness and understanding of things increases and it becomes more and more difficult to take advantage of you.

The wisest and most educated of the earliar civilizations became so because they didn't have 'jobs' to occupy their time. They were known as cynic philosophers and they understood that the idea of working all the time was bad for you at its core.

This is why today when you question things regularly you are reffered to as cynical.


Anyway, most tasks are merely there to keep you engaged in doing them. They are not really neccessary. If enough people fell out of the workforce it would mean a large portion of the population is not receiving or spending money and so those people stop coveting money, which means money becomes less important. When those people (now technically poor) begin recreating trade relationships with one another it would be to the detriment of the people who are stockpiling promisarry notes in the form of cash. So to prevent this the employers (who have the MOST money) ensure there are plenty of unneccessary jobs for whoever wants one. An entire McDonalds could be scaled down to one employee working a few hours for the week (and even still the McDonalds itself is a luxury, not really needed at all). They would basically just go in once every few days, replace the ingrediants in the food assembly machinery, and clean up. There is no reason in 2014 for a person to put a hamburger together. But the result of all companies scaling back that way would mean all the newly unemployed workers have no money to give back to companies like the McDonalds, so it is a self-fulfilling cycle of busy work.

The matter is quite complex, but overall, whatever job you have is simply an artificial construct you have let someone attach to you to devour the majority of your time.... and most people don't realize that until they retire or right before they die.
 
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notPsychosiz said:
I don't think those who are working are fools. Not at all. But I do believe they are being exploited.

I'm sure you have heard the term "busy-work" and that is what most work is. All wage jobs are variants of busy work. You are not rewardwd based on what service you are providing, but rather how long and how much time you devote. This is to ensure you have minimal free time because as your free time increases your worldliness and understanding of things increases and it becomes more and more difficult to take advantage of you.

The wisest and most educated of the earliar civilizations became so because they didn't have 'jobs' to occupy their time. They were known as cynic philosophers and they understood that the idea of working all the time was bad for you at its core.

This is why today when you question things regularly you are reffered to as cynical.


Anyway, most tasks are merely there to keep you engaged in doing them. They are not really neccessary. If enough people fell out of the workforce it would mean a large portion of the population is not receiving or spending money and so those people stop coveting money, which means money becomes less important. When those people (now technically poor) begin recreating trade relationships with one another it would be to the detriment of the people who are stockpiling promisarry notes in the form of cash. So to prevent this the employers (who have the MOST money) ensure there are plenty of unneccessary jobs for whoever wants one. An entire McDonalds could be scaled down to one employee working a few hours for the week (and even still the McDonalds itself is a luxury, not really needed at all). They would basically just go in once every few days, replace the ingrediants in the food assembly machinery, and clean up. There is no reason in 2014 for a person to put a hamburger together. But the result of all companies scaling back that way would mean all the newly unemployed workers have no money to give back to companies like the McDonalds, so it is a self-fulfilling cycle of busy work.

The matter is quite complex, but overall, whatever job you have is simply an artificial construct you have let someone attach to you to devour the majority of your time.... and most people don't realize that until they retire or right before they die.
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so someone should go to work and provide you with food stamps wile your lazy ass sits around and do nothing.

SMH :snoop:
 
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notPsychosiz said:
I don't think those who are working are fools. Not at all. But I do believe they are being exploited.

I'm sure you have heard the term "busy-work" and that is what most work is. All wage jobs are variants of busy work. You are not rewardwd based on what service you are providing, but rather how long and how much time you devote. This is to ensure you have minimal free time because as your free time increases your worldliness and understanding of things increases and it becomes more and more difficult to take advantage of you.

The wisest and most educated of the earliar civilizations became so because they didn't have 'jobs' to occupy their time. They were known as cynic philosophers and they understood that the idea of working all the time was bad for you at its core.

This is why today when you question things regularly you are reffered to as cynical.


Anyway, most tasks are merely there to keep you engaged in doing them. They are not really neccessary. If enough people fell out of the workforce it would mean a large portion of the population is not receiving or spending money and so those people stop coveting money, which means money becomes less important. When those people (now technically poor) begin recreating trade relationships with one another it would be to the detriment of the people who are stockpiling promisarry notes in the form of cash. So to prevent this the employers (who have the MOST money) ensure there are plenty of unneccessary jobs for whoever wants one. An entire McDonalds could be scaled down to one employee working a few hours for the week (and even still the McDonalds itself is a luxury, not really needed at all). They would basically just go in once every few days, replace the ingrediants in the food assembly machinery, and clean up. There is no reason in 2014 for a person to put a hamburger together. But the result of all companies scaling back that way would mean all the newly unemployed workers have no money to give back to companies like the McDonalds, so it is a self-fulfilling cycle of busy work.

The matter is quite complex, but overall, whatever job you have is simply an artificial construct you have let someone attach to you to devour the majority of your time.... and most people don't realize that until they retire or right before they die.
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Not entirely true, robots cannot do all the tasks necessary for food service. And people would have to maintain the robots anyway.
 
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Our folks will get lambasted, while Cacs and Hassidics abusing the system continue to get the free meal pass:sas2:
 
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Fat Kevin said:
Not entirely true, robots cannot do all the tasks necessary for food service. And people would have to maintain the robots anyway.
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Correct. Somethings cannot be automated correctly so people would still be required. Mostly for the machinery maintenance, and for fine detail. For example you could automate the sweeping of an entire office building but might still need one person to physically remove the dust from the buildings corners. But this much better than having that person go floor by floor and sweep everything himself though. Its ridiculous. Things like the broom are older than dirt. There are some tasks that are simply not automated to provide people jobs.

Chris.B said:
so someone should go to work and provide you with food stamps wile your lazy ass sits around and do nothing.

SMH :snoop:
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You don't seem to understand.
Almost no one needs to go to work at all. So it isn't one group picking up the slack for a second group. It is one group doing something frivolous while the other group refrains. That is not the same thing.
Also, no one needs to be given food stamps. They are merely a different form of cash/credit. They used to be issued as paper promissary notes no different than dollar bills, but now they are issued in the form of a credit card.

There are jobs that are actually required (mostly in agriculture and infastructure) and there would be initial projects neccessary like building alot of the self-sustaining machinery, then there would largely just be maintenance and replenishment positions. But 85% of people are not required to be involved at any level. The entire system can support the 100% with the effort of 15% because of the level of technology and understanding we have at the moment. But then, no one would be rich really. So thats why people are kept working. So other people can be rich.

And the very last point... If you think declining do the same thing everyday is the equivalent of doing nothing you need to expand your parameters. You are implying that your free time is not important. So let me break it down for you.

There is your entire life. Lets say you will live to be 100. (Lucky you)
Cut that in half with the time you spend sick, asleep, or performing basic rituals such as showering or relieving yourself.
Now you have half your life. 50 years to enjoy and experience the world.
Take away about 5 for the total amount of time you are in school K-12... we won't even do college...
45 years left to enjoy.
If you work an 8 hour a day, 5 days a week to make up the standard 40 hour work week. Then having a career that spans 30 years eats 10 years of your life.
35 years left to enjoy.

Some of you might say that isn't so bad... but most of you won't ever see 100.
If you are one of the many who will die around 70... I hate to break it to you... but you have only truely lived 5 years of your life.

People can call me lazy. But I've seen 43 states, 3 countries... and I am happy. So I'm good. I have ha d jobs. I have had careers... but I also had enough free time to learn things and that knowledge quickly put me at odds with basic employment. And again, if your job makes you happy or if you feel like you are doing something useful and important, that is different. I have had fun jobs in the gaming industry and in music, so I get it... but if you get to your deathbed and realize you spent a the majority of your free time screening calls for a pharmacutical company or installing cable boxes or and it was just work, I would just say, ask yourself sooner than later would you be comfortable with that as an old man or woman.
 
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notPsychosiz said:
Correct. Somethings cannot be automated correctly so people would still be required. Mostly for the machinery maintenance, and for fine detail. For example you could automate the sweeping of an entire office building but might still need one person to physically remove the dust from the buildings corners. But this much better than having that person go floor by floor and sweep everything himself though. Its ridiculous. Things like the broom are older than dirt. There are some tasks that are simply not automated to provide people jobs.


You don't seem to understand.
Almost no one needs to go to work at all. So it isn't one group picking up the slack for a second group. It is one group doing something frivolous while the other group refrains. That is not the same thing.
Also, no one needs to be given food stamps. They are merely a different form of cash/credit. They used to be issued as paper promissary notes no different than dollar bills, but now they are issued in the form of a credit card.

There are jobs that are actually required (mostly in agriculture and infastructure) and there would be initial projects neccessary like building alot of the self-sustaining machinery, then there would largely just be maintenance and replenishment positions. But 85% of people are not required to be involved at any level. The entire system can support the 100% with the effort of 15% because of the level of technology and understanding we have at the moment. But then, no one would be rich really. So thats why people are kept working. So other people can be rich.

And the very last point... If you think declining do the same thing everyday is the equivalent of doing nothing you need to expand your parameters. You are implying that your free time is not important. So let me break it down for you.

There is your entire life. Lets say you will live to be 100. (Lucky you)
Cut that in half with the time you spend sick, asleep, or performing basic rituals such as showering or relieving yourself.
Now you have half your life. 50 years to enjoy and experience the world.
Take away about 5 for the total amount of time you are in school K-12... we won't even do college...
45 years left to enjoy.
If you work an 8 hour a day, 5 days a week to make up the standard 40 hour work week. Then having a career that spans 30 years eats 10 years of your life.
35 years left to enjoy.

Some of you might say that isn't so bad... but most of you won't ever see 100.
If you are one of the many who will die around 70... I hate to break it to you... but you have only truely lived 5 years of your life.

People can call me lazy. But I've seen 43 states, 3 countries... and I am happy. So I'm good. I have ha d jobs. I have had careers... but I also had enough free time to learn things and that knowledge quickly put me at odds with basic employment. And again, if your job makes you happy or if you feel like you are doing something useful and important, that is different. I have had fun jobs in the gaming industry and in music, so I get it... but if you get to your deathbed and realize you spent a the majority of your free time screening calls for a pharmacutical company or installing cable boxes or and it was just work, I would just say, ask yourself sooner than later would you be comfortable with that as an old man or woman.
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where did you get the money to travel
 
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