Lets get it Started right now-Which NBA Era is Better?

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The thing is, you can't stop Curry. There's no other PG in the history of the league that has that title except maybe AI when he was playing PG. That's worth a lot in any NBA era. You can only hope he misses. We've seen this guy shoot over 7 footers with abnormal reaches like AD and drop shots in their faces with outstretched arms no problem. Even if you do stop him he has some great court vision and makes some great passes. Now maybe the passes aren't quite at Magic's level in that department, but if Curry doesn't find a shot he likes he makes the right pass the mass majority of the time. If I want anybody as a primary ball handler for a PG it'd be Steph Curry. Even compared to the current All-NBA team I'd want Curry to bring the ball up over LeBron. I'll take Curry any day over John Stockton as well and yes, I've seen Stockton play a considerable amount.

Here's where Curry is valuable: A PG needs to be able to read the floor, analyze the flow of the game, have the smarts to figure what the best possible option should be, and have the ability to carry it out. There are plenty of times where the PG should take it on his duty to score if the situation calls for it. Because of Curry's skill set there is rarely a time when he shouldn't try to score. In fact the option order for someone who is as efficient a scorer, even in volume as Curry (even as a PG) should be a)look to score b)pass it. Golden State has done a great job surrounding Curry with the talent so that the scoring load isn't all on him and he can get very crafty with getting his teammates involved, which he does. Curry knows when he needs to distribute the ball and to which team mate which is all what being a great floor general is about. Comparing him to other gunner PG's isn't accurate because those guys chuck inefficient shots/bad looks when they don't have shooting ability nearly as great as Curry's.

These are old highlights and Curry has only got better since then.


So yes I'd put him right there with Magic in terms of who I'd take at PG. They're both as effective in getting their teams wins, they just do it in different ways. But why're the same level of floor general.



Now here my decision isn't quite as solid and more on the fence, but Kawhi is still very young. I'm very intrigued by some of the flashes of ability Leonard shows offensively and feel he really can be a 20+ppg guy based on that. I'll be more convinced as well when he does it more consistently.

I'll have to say though that Leonard has defended better scoring threats than Pippen and done so effectively. But the jury is still out in terms of overall. However, I think it's a lot closer already than people realize.

again, slow down. why are you trying to convince that curry is great. I told yall how good this dude was when he was in college on that other site. i'm the one that told people He will be a great player one day due to his NBA level footwork already. you dont have to sell me on curry. he's a legend in my eyes already. but he aint MAGIC /STOCKTON. shoot he's not as good of a POINT GUARD as gary payton. and this is not about stats. its about watching with your own eyes. curry is not a FLOOR general as much as that team has a nice ball movement offense(thanks kerr). and yes he can pass very well. but he aint those guys. so please lets never say that lie again.he's his own kind of unique talent. curry is truthfully a short shooting guard with great passing ability. AI was a short shooting guard.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

so is BS for me to tell the truth about curry?

why take it as a slight. the guy is not some great point guard. he's a great scoring guard that can pass well and has a mean handle.

but he cant be in the coversation with magic, stockton, etc. those dudes were real life FLOOR GENERALS. the things you remember most about them is not their scoring its their passing. thats the difference. when you say curry you auto think "crazy shooter."

Replace Curry with Stockton, would the Warriors be a more dominant team?

 

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Nostalgia is the worst when it comes to the NBA, I really don't think there's another team sport where people resist the idea that things improve.


You put some of those 90s teams in the league right now and they're getting washed because of the zone, and the fact they couldn't hit 3s.

who said things didnt improve? i didnt. what i did say is this era is SOFT. the improvement is in the X's and O's and i would say ball handling. i'm not sure i call it and improvement when every big man can dribble and shoot jumpshots. but most of them dont have a legit post game they can rely on. its like they traded one thin in for another. they traded in their POWER and size for guard skills.

guys dont(and cant due to the rules) defend each other like they use to. why would i call that better?

you say things improved of course they did. no one said they didnt. but lets be clear. that team i showed you from the 90's. would beat the team from this era i also showed you.

we know bigs of the past were light years ahead of bigs today when it comes to back 2 the basket work.

put it this way.

the best bigs in the nba right now are who

Boogie Cousins
AD
Lamarcus
Marc Gasol
Deandre Jordan
blake griffin

These guys are household names for bigs.

2 of them are on the same team together.

Yet not one of them has been to a finals. all of them are getting bounced usually before the conference finals.

Pat ewing-finals appearance.
Hakeem- 2 rings(back 2 back)
Shaq(90's version)-finals appearance (lost to hakeem above)
Karl Malone-finals appearance
Kemp- Finals apperance
Barkley- finals appearance

yall dont see nothing wrong with that picture?

 

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Replace Curry with Stockton, would the Warriors be a more dominant team?

thats not the point that was made. if i have to choose between curry and stockton. sorry cacton. its curry all day and every day. that was not the point that was being made. the point made was that he can be compared to Magic johnson. no the hell he cant. magic was the best point guard ever. true PG when it comes to passing, court vision, etc. curry is not a true pg. he's a under 6'5 shooting guard that can pass really well and handle the ball like no other(accept for maybe kyrie).

 

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Stop what, Love is a good post player. Saying that he, Aldridge & Griffin rarely utilize their back to basket skillset or rarely get doubled is so far off base I don't even know what to say. Anthony Davis is a face up guy that rarely plays with his back to the rim, he's more like the player you're trying to describe not those three or the players before

say what i said exactly. they dont get doubled in the low post often. why not? because they dont scare the ish out of teams on that block. why not? because either they wont consistently go down there and abuse their man. OR when they do go down there their moves are not good enough to scare people to death.

lets talk about it again. bad knees drew came out of now where. and went from just a role player. to a monster on the block. every team in the nba was doubling him on the touch, some were sitting in his lap before he got the pass. they were afraid he would drop 35+ like he did to the clips. bynum's problem was that he just realized what a double team was. he never had a chance to learn how to pass out of the double team. it took shaq a few years to get really good at it.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

thats not the point that was made. if i have to choose between curry and stockton. sorry cacton. its curry all day and every day. that was not the point that was being made. the point made was that he can be compared to Magic johnson. no the hell he cant. magic was the best point guard ever. true PG when it comes to passing, court vision, etc. curry is not a true pg. he's a under 6'5 shooting guard that can pass really well and handle the ball like no other(accept for maybe kyrie).

Then why did you bring up Stockton's name as if being a "true PG" outweighs what impact Curry has?

 

[Malta]

who said things didnt improve? i didnt. what i did say is this era is SOFT. the improvement is in the X's and O's and i would say ball handling. i'm not sure i call it and improvement when every big man can dribble and shoot jumpshots. but most of them dont have a legit post game they can rely on. its like they traded one thin in for another. they traded in their POWER and size for guard skills.

guys dont(and cant due to the rules) defend each other like they use to. why would i call that better?

you say things improved of course they did. no one said they didnt. but lets be clear. that team i showed you from the 90's. would beat the team from this era i also showed you.

we know bigs of the past were light years ahead of bigs today when it comes to back 2 the basket work.

put it this way.

the best bigs in the nba right now are who

Boogie Cousins
AD
Lamarcus
Marc Gasol
Deandre Jordan
blake griffin

These guys are household names for bigs.

2 of them are on the same team together.

Yet not one of them has been to a finals. all of them are getting bounced usually before the conference finals.

Pat ewing-finals appearance.
Hakeem- 2 rings(back 2 back)
Shaq(90's version)-finals appearance (lost to hakeem above)
Karl Malone-finals appearance
Kemp- Finals apperance
Barkley- finals appearance

yall dont see nothing wrong with that picture?

Why are you naming big men?


The Knicks were 60-22 in 92-93 with Ewing and that team would get murdered in the NBA today, why? Because they made 193 threes for the entire season, the most by a team was 398 by the Suns Today, the worst team in the league in regards to threes were the Wolves, they made 406. As good as Patrick was, you're not beating any team today without being able to make the 3 because opposing teams would simply play the numbers and would live with Ewing getting his numbers.

What is going to happen in the future is that we're going to see a dominant big man again, but he's going to have 4 guys around him that can shoot and defending him will be nearly impossible as a result. The increased spacing is evolution, and with it a back to the basket / faceup big will be arriving soon

 

[Draje]

http://therdsports.com/2013/06/19/the-mythic-1990s/

 

[Bomberman]

again, slow down. why are you trying to convince that curry is great. I told yall how good this dude was when he was in college on that other site. i'm the one that told people He will be a great player one day due to his NBA level footwork already. you dont have to sell me on curry. he's a legend in my eyes already. but he aint MAGIC /STOCKTON. shoot he's not as good of a POINT GUARD as gary payton. and this is not about stats. its about watching with your own eyes. curry is not a FLOOR general as much as that team has a nice ball movement offense(thanks kerr). and yes he can pass very well. but he aint those guys. so please lets never say that lie again.he's his own kind of unique talent. curry is truthfully a short shooting guard with great passing ability. AI was a short shooting guard.

PG is just a position though is what I'm trying to say. I honestly think Steph at PG is as feasible as Magic/Stockton at PG. Dude just brings a different skill and defines being a floor general with it. That's all my post was trying to say. Knowing when to score and scoring is part of being a great floor general, as much as it is as making great passes.

If Curry wins games on his scoring greatly like he does while being labeled a PG, then he's a great PG. Period. Who cares if he's not a pass-first guy when he's winning games being the central part of the scoring offense.