Let’s just end this debate right now, Kobe Bryant dominated Tim Duncan’s teams in the playoffs. Like, consistently, every single time.

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Tim is the HOF big Kobe needs to even compete for titles, otherwise he doing a bunch of nothing but going up 3 - 1 in the first round and losing.


:laff:Kobe went back to back with a guy who had a 0-12 playoff record before him, yet Kobe NEEDS a TD type player to even compete for titles


:laff::laff::laff::laff::laff:Literally make up an entire alternate reality about one of the most famous athletes brehs
 

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He was still there after Shaq left. What happened?

The Lakers rebuilt the entire team from scratch around him, he got to the playoffs with Smush, Luke, and Kwame in the lineup, and got to the FInals 3 years later and went back to back 4-5 years later with most of the same role players, thats what happened.

You really asked this question like Kobe didn't do anything after Shaq when in actuality Kobe proved you could build a team around him and won with a mid supporting cast.....you're literally fukking retarded. :laff:
 

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A floater, and a well contested long jumper is hunting?

:heh:

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Huntin got to do wit the actual shot taken. He could called up any other teammate to get they Spurs defender on em. He said Duncan feet slow and his defense in pick and roll sweet I mean we seen how badly Amare was torchin him in the playoffs off that play. Kobe wasn't hunting KG like that but that a different convo :sas2:
 

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I agree. He’s top 10 obviously. But yall blow that shyt up to make excuses for the fact he never repeated and load managed half his career.

Kobe was also a consistent 2 way player especially in the playoff and especially during the 3 peat era his defense was crazy. Kobe was a leader. Kobe brought Phil back right after Phil published a book shytting on him, showing he put winning above his own ego.

Efficiency….Kobes TS% is right there with TDs bro. Kobe was taking way more threes. Also, TD shot like ass in the 05 Finals and got a complete pass for it while Kobe’s bad shooting games are over analyzed. Kobe going 6-24 in 2010 G7 is no different than TD going 5-19 in G7 of the 05 Finals. Actually it is different cuz TD was shooting closer to the basket.

Yeah people force than Pau 2010 FMVP shyt when Manu should been 05 FMVP. Sheed was lockin up Duncan a lot of that 05 series. They had NO answer for Manu. Chauncey, opposin coach Larry Brown even Spurs GM RC Buford and Bud who was they assistant then said Manu was FMVP.

His 07 finals was even worse but that why Tony got that one. Duncan scores 73 points that series (18.3 PPG) on 65 shots :huhldup: and he wasn't takin no shots outside 15ft either so that efficiency is real bad. He had major problems against Ilgauskas and Varejao that series scorin on em, and on the glass. Think Z had a 20/20 that series too but we can't prop up those 2 cause another fanbase think they was scrubs

If we pick apart every little detail of all these nikkas like they do Kobe they shyt would look alot worse. nikkas barely even mention Duncan brickin a point blank layup bein defended by Shane fukking Battier in game 7 of the finals to tie the game and airballed the tipin literally a ft away from the basket :bryan:
 
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:laff:Kobe went back to back with a guy who had a 0-12 playoff record before him, yet Kobe NEEDS a TD type player to even compete for titles


:laff::laff::laff::laff::laff:Literally make up an entire alternate reality about one of the most famous athletes brehs
The way y'all try and shyt on Pau is ridiculous :mindblown:

Y'all stay talking about Pau was 0-12 in the playoffs before going to play with Kobe. Tell me what TF the Grizzlies franchise was before Pau got there

In the 3 seasons prior before Pau got there LA won 34, 45, and 42 games in Kobe prime. You would think you nikkas would be grateful for Pau

If he's not traded there it's a strong possibility Kobe isn't even a Laker anymore
 

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The way y'all try and shyt on Pau is ridiculous :mindblown:

Y'all stay talking about Pau was 0-12 in the playoffs before going to play with Kobe. Tell me what TF the Grizzlies franchise was before Pau got there

In the 3 seasons prior before Pau got there LA won 34, 45, and 42 games in Kobe prime. You would think you nikkas would be grateful for Pau

If he's not traded there it's a strong possibility Kobe isn't even a Laker anymore

We are grateful for Pau, but he wasnt TD/Dirk/KG and he wasn't even top 20-25 in scoring in any season whether on the Grizz or the Lakers

he was an 18 and 9 player who is 2nd all time in getting swept (Shaq is #1). Yall talk about him like was a 20 and 10 player every year yet he literally was never that, while there was like 10+ big men in that same time period putting up 20 and 10.

The breh I quoted literally said Kobe needed a TD type player to win titles which is factually false. We were #1 in the West right before we even got Pau so Kobe was never gonna get request a trade again, and Kobe would've did the same damage with Chris Bosh, Carlos Boozer, Al Jefferson, etc, guys that were factually putting up better numbers than Pau year in and year out.

If we didn't get Pau we would've got someone else, getting Pau is actually what allowed Jim to hold onto Bynum so tightly. If not, his dad most likely would've forced him to trade Bynum for somebody before Kobe requested a trade again, because rejecting the Kidd trade was some obvious BS.

0-12 is 0-12. There's nothing that can be said to sugar coat that. Having Rudy Gay, Shane Battier, and Mike Miller as teammates is enough to win 1 fukking game in 12 tries.

One of the teams Pau was on with the Grizz had two different players get DPOY votes AND the 6MOY AND Bobby Jackson who also got 6MOY votes and still got swept by the Mavs scoring under 80 points in two of those games, and failing to hit 100 in any game.

They were #1 in OPP/PPG and #2 in Defensive Rating and still got swept.


Y'all act like he was playing with Smush, Luke and Kwame in Memphis. Stop it brother.


Yall pushing that bullshyt Pau 2010 MVP shyt is what got us pushing back. I actually know the history of all this shyt in real time, I don't like media cacs change my memory of what really happened.
 
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A floater, and a well contested long jumper is hunting?

:heh:
Oh yes, Kobe was hunting tf out of Timmy in those clips. The screen got Kobe the switch he wanted and he just picked Timmy apart. Even Bowen’s help defense couldn’t stop that.
 

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Oh yes, Kobe was hunting tf out of Timmy in those clips. The screen got Kobe the switch he wanted and he just picked Timmy apart. Even Bowen’s help defense couldn’t stop that.
Homie just upped this thread on a weak ass tweet because his boy was getting roasted in the Bleacher Report Top 20 players thread.

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"Kobe vs Duncan" head-to-head is a bit weird/random when the comparison in real time was Duncan vs Shaq, where in their first 5 playoff series (99, 01, 02, 03, 04) Duncan matched or outplayed LAL Shaq in each one (actually avg more points, rebounds, assists, steals than Shaq in their career playoff head-to-head), with Shaq having a 3-2 series record (3-3 tie if you count '08 Suns/Spurs) in part bc his "sidekick" was Kobe who dominated Duncan's sidekicks which were often some Antonio Daniels, Derek Anderson ass nyggas.

My point is, you can't neglect context by singling out '08 (and ignoring '99) w/o also factoring it was 2 on 1 from '01-'04 in Shaq/Kobe's favor, and Bean's injuries prevented him from partaking in that '13 SAS 1st rd massacre where Duncan had the talent advantage, with the '13 and '14 Spurs being Duncan's most stacked teams, outside of '16.

Duncan's all time placement is more to do with his complete body of work (regardless of if that places him in the top 5 or top 10), and not his head-to-head scoring games vs a 6'6 shooting guard.
 

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Yeah people force than Pau 2010 FMVP shyt when Manu should been 05 FMVP. Sheed was lockin up Duncan a lot of that 05 series. They had NO answer for Manu. Chauncey, opposin coach Larry Brown even Spurs GM RC Buford and Bud who was they assistant then said Manu was FMVP.

His 07 finals was even worse but that why Tony got that one. Duncan scores 73 points that series (18.3 PPG) on 65 shots :huhldup: and he wasn't takin no shots outside 15ft either so that efficiency is real bad. He had major problems against Ilgauskas and Varejao that series scorin on em, and on the glass. Think Z had a 20/20 that series too but we can't prop up those 2 cause another fanbase think they was scrubs

If we pick apart every little detail of all these nikkas like they do Kobe they shyt would look alot worse. nikkas barely even mention Duncan brickin a point blank layup bein defended by Shane fukking Battier in game 7 of the finals to tie the game and airballed the tipin literally a ft away from the basket :bryan:

That's because that nikka kept doing those bank shots and layups.

Shaq would have dunked that shyt with two hands like you're SUPPOSED to in that moment.
 
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