Lets Keep it a Bean, would a WWE/UFC crossover event work?

[The Intergalactic Koala]

Be like when Battledome invaded WCW.

Or when Bellator tried to crossover with TNA leading to the epic staredown for the ages:

I mean GLEAT like UWFI rules could work...its been done with Bloodsport.

 

[Art Barr]

No.

Brawl for all

Davey richards

Would like a word with you.
It is a complete draw damning conflict of interest in every sense.



Art Barr

 

[Grifter]

Or when Bellator tried to crossover with TNA leading to the epic staredown for the ages:

I mean GLEAT like UWFI rules could work...its been done with Bloodsport.

one of the greatest TNA moments

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

WWE fans would be indifferent i think. UFC fans would hate it

I mean, Dana never gave a shyt about the fans thus why the GOAT ended up going to ONE FC and retiring . Money could be made if this is done right.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is the next step to save money and pimp out wrestlers and fighters. Have them shoot work and give them pennies to bytch on Twitter about involving vague tweets. Leading to endeavors and more suckers to go through the door. Rinse, wash, and repeat.

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

No.

Brawl for all

Davey richards

Would like a word with you.
It is a complete draw damning conflict of interest in every sense.



Art Barr

Brawl 4 all could have been done right if the right bookers were involved with the setup. You have a movie buff dikkeater from New Yawk trying to have work shoot fights with one experienced boxer and a struggling shoot fighter passed his prime, of course it would be a disaster that will forever be a black eye to the WWE.

Since then the industry evolved and now you see bareknuckle brehs doing fights in MMA events.

Davey Richards is just a idiot firefighting mark , so thats voided in itself as a example.

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

one of the greatest TNA moments

Mr Kennedy need a TNA HOF just for being the only one trying to make Ortiz a threat

 

[Art Barr]

Brawl 4 all could have been done right if the right bookers were involved with the setup. You have a movie buff dikkeater from New Yawk trying to have work shoot fights with one experienced boxer and a struggling shoot fighter passed his prime, of course it would be a disaster that will forever be a black eye to the WWE.

Since then the industry evolved and now you see bareknuckle brehs doing fights in MMA events.

Davey Richards is just a idiot firefighting mark , so thats voided in itself as a example.

Brawl 4 all could never be done right.

It is a complete conflict of interest.

Just like a shoot fight with rappers verse rappers failed.

Case in point.
Cm punk and brock should have really been dead defunct draws.

Yet since wrestling with shadows and the kayfabe specials of the late 90's.

Some wrasslin fans can suspend belief because of their affinity for wrasslin. Yet it is a conflict of interest. If wwe was to market and or cm punk or lesnar with their stints in shoots. Plus wwe would never want to do that. As it would transfer power to cain vaaquez to lashley.
Dually undermining the newly acquired wwe as a tko owned promotion.


It is a COMPLETE CONFLICT OF INTEREST

that once you open pandoras box. Really can nkt be shut.

Wwe is just lucky that they dodged that bullet.
That only the timing of those shoot exposal specials.
saved wrasslin from being a deemed a dead defunct draw.

Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

Brawl 4 all could have been done right if the right bookers were involved with the setup. You have a movie buff dikkeater from New Yawk trying to have work shoot fights with one experienced boxer and a struggling shoot fighter passed his prime, of course it would be a disaster that will forever be a black eye to the WWE.

Since then the industry evolved and now you see bareknuckle brehs doing fights in MMA events.

Davey Richards is just a idiot firefighting mark , so thats voided in itself as a example.

Before dabey richards ruined his draw. Trying what you are proposing.

Richards was the best inring performer in the industry.
at that time via workrate. Before ruining his own draw. Using the same flawed logic.
you are using in this thread.



Art Barr

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

Brawl 4 all could never be done right.

It is a complete conflict of interest.

Just like a shoot fight with rappers verse rappers failed.

Case in point.
Cm punk and brock should have really been dead defunct draws.

Yet since wrestling with shadows and the kayfabe specials of the late 90's.

Some wrasslin fans can suspend belief because of their affinity for wrasslin. Yet it is a conflict of interest. If wwe was to market and or cm punk or lesnar with their stints in shoots. Plus wwe would never want to do that. As it would transfer power to cain vaaquez to lashley.
Dually undermining the newly acquired wwe as a tko owned promotion.


It is a COMPLETE CONFLICT OF INTEREST

that once you open pandoras box. Really can nkt be shut.

Wwe is just lucky that they dodged that bullet.
That only the timing of those shoot exposal specials.
saved wrasslin from being a deemed a dead defunct draw.

Art Barr

Touche

Its no different from GLEAT, which focuses on shoot fighting and wrestling, only for the promotion to be a boring slog where the wrestling is forgettable and the shoot fighting could be a bit better.

Ground game in professional wrestling is a death kiss for channels to change sadly.

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

Before dabey richards ruined his draw. Trying what you are proposing.

Richards was the best inring performer in the industry.
at that time via workrate. Before ruining his own draw. Using the same flawed logic.
you are using in this thread.



Art Barr

The thing with Davey Richards is that he embodied the common indie wrestler in 2010s.

All work but no character.

It killed his chances to prosper in wrestling and bringing that type of shoot style to it. Daniel Bryan, punk and em were successful because of character first while rocking the kick pads.

For the life of me, I can't even think of a Richards promo.

 

[Art Barr]

The thing with Davey Richards is that he embodied the common indie wrestler in 2010s.

All work but no character.

It killed his chances to prosper in wrestling and bringing that type of shoot style to it. Daniel Bryan, punk and em were successful because of character first while rocking the kick pads.

For the life of me, I can't even think of a Richards promo.

Originally Bryan and punk were not successful because they were characters.

They were there as a promotion raid burial attempt. Raided from roh On wwe roster
for workrate and built a draw as characters. In the pocket of their draw.
ramping to mainstream constructs.
Both are the culmination of timing and ramping in that moment. Where they need to be that good. To highlight their higher quality workrate.
Imo after ufc. No one really shyts on punk. Like they should on the mic. Yet punk will take liberties. To shoot on another.

Bryan is just that good. Or that otherworldly talented in workrate and variables.
That bryan is one of the only performers. Who could take whatever mcmahon threw at bryan. That bryan made it work. Even running around backstage.
as i still don't know wtf that character was.

Yet richards is as good as either in workrate. That created the draw in the indies.
for what made punk and bryan danielson. Before both became rampup.
almost buried talent undersized on the wwe roster.


Art Barr

 

[MushroomX]

I said this in the Triple K thread, but I don't think WWE Stans would be ready to see the Bloodline get exposed / or whomever they think can fight (minus Phil because of his 0-2 record). I don't doubt they can scrap, but if it turns out into a straight shootfight and Jacob catches a fade, that shyt will be etched in the minds forever.

 

[Turtle]

On the same card maybe but who’s gonna shoot on who?

 

[TheGreatShowtime]

Breh the UFC rep already got tarnished the moment Dana'a eggheaded ass put money into a "Slapping" contest . Lets keep it a bean, dude is just as carny as Trips and em.

The only difference is that MMA is all shoot and buildup work, vs working the shoot and shooting the marks like wrestling.

So in order for the trifecta to be complete, we need to balance out the work with the shoot to shoot with the work

Their reputation would be tarnished as in people would question whether all fights are works going forward. The slap thing has nothing to do with that.

 

[Larry]

I haven’t read anything outside of the thread title so I could be completely misunderstanding the question but I will say this as someone who lives and breathes MMA beyond just UFC: none of my friends from that world (mma) have even the slightest interest in pro wrestling. Like, zero. I think that crossover is smaller than people think.

Also the few wrestling friends I have don’t really pay attention to actual combat sports at all. This is all my personal experience tho, could be different for other people