Lets not act like the cavs werent stacked on paper when they were formed

[T.he I.nformant]

FACTS ARE THE OPPOSITE OF INSANITY

I was being generous saying it was crazy. It's just flat-out dumb. Whether you like him or his game son is an all-time great. The nikka won two ships and is in the midst of going to six straight finals. Don't let me mention the MVPs and individual accolades. Should you give a little context when weighing his accomplishments? Of course. You should with everybody. Being with Bosh and Wade helped. Having Shuttlesworth in the clutch helped. Being in the East helped. A lot of things have helped. But be clear, the nikka has been a force since coming into the Association in 2003. Anybody who actually watches ball can't deny that he deserves some talk in all-time great conversation. Anybody saying otherwise is buggin.

 

[Sccit]

Being a 2x champion and 4x mvp isn't an accomplishment and nothing was unlikely about that game 6 it's basketball it happens all the time you acting as if winning a 7 game series championship is fluke

PLAYING ON SUPERTEAMS N ONLY WINNING 2/7 IS NOT THAT IMPRESSIVE .. MVP IS A POPULARITY CONTEST AND THE MEDIA PROPELS LEBRONS STATURE FAR PAST HIS ACHIEVMENTS. THEY ARE THE CULPRIT HERE, SO BRINGIN UP MVPS ISNT REALLY HELPIN YOUR ARGUMENT.

 

[Sccit]

I was being generous saying it was crazy. It's just flat-out dumb. Whether you like him or his game son is an all-time great. The nikka won two ships and is in the midst of going to six straight finals. Don't let me mention the MVPs and individual accolades. Should you give a little context when weighing his accomplishments? Of course. You should with everybody. Being with Bosh and Wade helped. Having Shuttlesworth in the clutch helped. Being in the East helped. A lot of things have helped. But be clear, the nikka has been a force since coming into the Association in 2003. Anybody who actually watches ball can't deny that he deserves some talk in all-time great conversation. Anybody saying otherwise is buggin.

OF COURSE HES GREAT .. BUT SO IS DOMINIQUE WILKINS.. ONLY THING DUMB IS GROUPING HIM WIT THE MJ, MAGIC, KOBE TIER OF GOATS.. BECAUSE HE CLEARLY FALLS SHORT OF THAT TIER.


THAT TOP TIER DOES NOT GO 2/7 IN THE FINALS, AND ONLY A RETARD WOULD ARGUE THAT.

 

[Trece]

HIS IDEAL ROLE WOULD BE A PIPPEN ON A CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM...IT'S JUST A SHAME THAT HE WAS NEVER USED LIKE THAT, BECAUSE IF SOME1 LIKE HIM COULD GET HIS EGO IN CHECK, IT COULD MAKE FOR A TRUE DYNASTY. IMAGINE IF HE CAME TO THE LAKERS AND ACCEPTED PLAYIN SECOND FIDDLE TO KOBE. 2010-2015 WOULDA MADE FOR AT LEAST 4 TITLES IN LOS ANGELES, GRANTED KOBE DOESNT TEAR HIS ACHILLES IN 2013 WITH SOME WORKLOAD RELIEVED FROM HIM.

So much truth in this...

Lebron is a Pippen that is trying to fake being Michael.. him and Kobe would have devoured the league if he would drop his ego and accept that role. He found success in that role with Wade although he was massaged into thinking he was Batman.

 

[Trece]

What superteams... The Heat were a great squad.... The Cavs are really good.... The only superteams I've seen see were Phil's Lakers/Bulls...... 2015/16 Warriors....... 87/88 Lakers... and the 85/86 Celtics....

Lebron's squad has only been the better team in the finals maybe 3 times..... so his record is about right......

Don't know how long you've been watching the NBA, but underdogs don't beat the better team in 7 85-90% of the time.... easily

The 95 Rockets may be the only true exception I've seen in my lifetime....... and Avery lost the ship for the Mavericks in 06...


Not really sure why the narrative switches up for Lebron

Teaming up with 3 of the top 5 players in tour draft class and 4 Hof'ers in general is a superteam. Do we really have to diminish these other HOF'ers to make Bron look heroic??

Maybe, just maybe Bron sucks all of the light out of the room and doesnt allow anyone else to shine.

 

[Trece]

You didn't miss anything, because I actually continued reading and it was more and "betting odds" being thrown around in the post

I swear sometime I think ESPN cacs come in here to for Bron.. Like we are argoung with John Hollinger or Henry Abbott.

 

[Trece]

Miami Heat LITERALLY had 3 of the 5 Eastern All-Star starters in their starting lineup in 2014 and 2 of the 5 (with their 3rd All-Star Chris Bosh coming off the bench in the ASG) the other 3 seasons....but they weren't a Superteam tho

And you didnt even mention arguably the greatest shooter of all time and sure HOF'er rolling up off the bench

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

I swear sometime I think ESPN cacs come in here to for Bron.. Like we are argoung with John Hollinger or Henry Abbott.

Teaming up with 3 of the top 5 players in tour draft class and 4 Hof'ers in general is a superteam. Do we really have to diminish these other HOF'ers to make Bron look heroic??

Maybe, just maybe Bron sucks all of the light out of the room and doesnt allow anyone else to shine.

Using your logic.... 90% of NBA championships are won by super teams.... so in essence, Bron was just doing what he had to do to compete..... cause he wasn't winning shyt in Cleveland with Mo and Big Z

So much truth in this...

Lebron is a Pippen that is trying to fake being Michael.. him and Kobe would have devoured the league if he would drop his ego and accept that role. He found success in that role with Wade although he was massaged into thinking he was Batman.

Now I know not to take you seriously.....

 

[#SOG_soldier]

Kobe was a better man to man defender than wade

 

[JYoung24]

He was wtf wade was a good of ball defender and a great shot blocker but he was never a lock down defender

 

[Big Boss]

Basically. In the summer of 2014 who the fukk would have ever predicted the Warriors would rise outta nowhere and become a historic team winning 67 and 73 games I woulda laughed somebody at the room had they said that summer 2014.

That's what LeBron thought when he left miami after losing to the spurs

 

[T.he I.nformant]

OF COURSE HES GREAT .. BUT SO IS DOMINIQUE WILKINS.. ONLY THING DUMB IS GROUPING HIM WIT THE MJ, MAGIC, KOBE TIER OF GOATS.. BECAUSE HE CLEARLY FALLS SHORT OF THAT TIER.


THAT TOP TIER DOES NOT GO 2/7 IN THE FINALS, AND ONLY A RETARD WOULD ARGUE THAT.

Are we really going to discredit Bron for facing some amazing Spurs and Warriors teams and a Mavs team that had a special run? If so, please lettuce talk about who else is in that top tier. Mailman? Stockton? Barkley? Hakeem? Isiah? Drexler? You know, players who either couldn't win a ring or couldn't even make it to the Finals more than two or three times. Clearly, they can't be in there using your logic...right?

 

[Sccit]

PLEASE DONT TELL ME UR TRYNA COMPARE WADE N KOBE DEFENSIVELY LMFAO

 

[Sccit]

Are we really going to discredit Bron for facing some amazing Spurs and Warriors teams and a Mavs team that had a special run? If so, please lettuce talk about who else is in that top tier. Mailman? Stockton? Barkley? Hakeem? Isiah? Drexler? You know, players who either couldn't win a ring or couldn't even make it to the Finals more than two or three times. Clearly, they can't be in there using your logic...right?

THE ONLY PERSON U LISTED WHO COULD POSSIBLY BE IN THAT FIRST TIER IS HAKEEM .. LEBRON FALLS IN LINE WIT THE REST OF EM

 

[#SOG_soldier]

He was wtf wade was a good of ball defender and a great shot blocker but he was never a lock down defender

Neither was tobe. Tobe is overrated defensively imo.