I''m not all over the place at all, the problem is I'm making points and you have opinion and because of your opinion you can't recognize how coherent what I'm saying is. Real talk. You just don't agree with my opinion (which is based on that year, the marketing, interviews, Live Nation, etc., but I'll let you tell it). You're cool and whatever, but I don't get into this coli stuff where when I don't agree with someone I convince myself that they're not making sense when their opinion is actually closer to general consensus (and the artists' own views) and start finding ways to draw out an argument. Even your questions don't make sense and makes me wonder if you were alive in 2009

Your comment about Forever Young

...were you around during the BP3 tour, the one that was streamed live online and shyt

This is a clear case of you equating your opinion and perspective with reality, when the two are not overlapping
You read far too much into the bar example, I was telling you the song's effect, no one took that shyt serious, Kanye was out there yelling, "like a lazer nikka PEW PEW PEW."