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I hope Iran get some nukes and hit Israel hard 
Let's Strategize: Iran Sanctions Lifted. What Does The USA Do Next?
- Thread starter Poh SIti Dawn
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My only problem with Israeli criticism is that this was only the case within the last 10 years. They went through A LOT of REAL anti-semitism that can't be overlooked as what led to them being such hard asses. This isn't just some unprovoked bullshyt.
Just like how Jews overlook slavery and call africans that move into Isreal ******s; I just do this when they complain
Completely irrelevant to this discussion, but OK.Just like how Jews overlook slavery and call africans that move into Isreal ******s; I just do this when they complain
ill
Superstar
How do you view Israel's involvement in Afghanistan and Iraq as a liability? I don't think they even got near any of the conflicts or the politics of any of it. Could be wrong.
I like this idea, if the US can force Israel to grant Palestinians their own state and then get a peace treaty () and from there start to build a coalition it would be
I hope you guys are aware that there is no official Palestinian state because of BOTH Israel and Palestine. Israel proposed and offered two state solutions plenty of times only to get rejected by power hungry militants.
a man of the people
Rookie
I was talking about the last two Iraq wars, on Bush think that Afghanistan is in the middle east.
And Israel was a serious liability in both wars, especially the first one as it created serious tension in the coalition.
Please tell me how it is the fault of Palestinians that Israel have been holding them without basic human rights for half a century.
Israel hasn't done that.
Unless you forgot that time then the entire arab world launched assaults on a country the size of new jersey several times.
I won't say Israel is free of criticism in recent years, but Palestine created a lot of their current problems and your reluctance to admit this either through religious conviction, hatred of white jews, or flat out anti-semitism, shouldn't cloud your judgment.
Theres plenty of blame to go around, but Israel didn't get to this point by just sitting around while everyone else continue to plot on them.
a man of the people
Rookie
The majority of the Palestinians were not involved in the fighting in 48, and sorry, you don't get deny basic human rights from millions of people just because some people with similar ethnic background did something you don't agree with.
And while I agree that Palestinian leaders have made some bad calls in the past, again, this does not grant the right to Israel to deny basic human rights from millions of people.
I hope Iran get some nukes and hit Israel hard
I hope you're joking breh, there are good people everywhere.Trolls gonna troll breh
A Real Human Bean
and a real hero
Why does the US have to do anything? Why were the sanctions in place at all? Why does was an Iran deal even needed?
a man of the people
Rookie
The US has an official policy of nuclear non-proliferation, and while there's certainly a hypocrisy in saying "we can get nukes but you can't, because we said so" I generally think that the less nuclear weapons in the world the better.
The problem here is that it's generally beneficial to a country to have nukes, just compare Iraq with North Korea, Sadaam didn't have WMDs and he got invaded, North Korea have them, and they mostly get a free pass (at as far as invasion goes).
Deals like this (and the sanctions before them) are there to create a counter-incentive for countries to not have nukes, and it seemed to have worked well, we didn't even have to
p.s.
Now of course there's the issue of Israel not only having nukes, but also being one of only 4 countries in the world who have never signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty, but that's a different discussion.
A Real Human Bean
and a real hero
I agree that "the less nuclear weapons in the world the better". I don't think any country should have nuclear weapons. My point is that the reasons for placing sanctions on Iran and subsequently having to make an "Iran deal" are dubious, and most discussions around this topic fail to address this. The actual "Iranian threat" as described by US intelligence is insignificant. I've posted the documents on here before, but the analysis from US intelligence on the issue is that if Iran did get nuclear weapons they would be only used as a deterrent, not for carrying out any offensive actions. So what serious threat is posed? If the US was serious about nuclear non-proliferation they wouldn't have supported Pakistan as they developed their nuclear systems. If they're serious, they can start working on an "Israel deal".
