Let's talk about ELECTRICITY...

[The_King_of_Everything]

I wonder what relation does chi energy have with electricity

 

[OneManGang]

first off, nervous system function is included in just about every major process in our body, thus so is "electricity." how do you think the energy created by those hydrocarbons get distributed throughout the body? chemicals and electricity. no matter what the physiological process, the electricity is the facilitator. this would also depend at what level of charge something ceases to be "electricity" in your system of understanding.

but nonetheless i think youre trying a little too hard to discredit the role electricity plays in the functioning of the human body.

In my response, I pointed out that we don't run on electricity. That's fundamentally different than saying we don't NEED it. It's very important that our body uses ion potentials to create charges across membranes. That's fundamentally how anything in the body occurs electrically.

To your point of how does the energy get distributed, well that's not too complicated. Energy comes in many forms, and electricity one of many carriers of energy. Food is broken down and released as its buildig blocks into the bloodstream. Each individual cell then takes in what it needs and creates its own power. Most of it being in the form of inorganic phosphates (ATP, GTP, etc.) This energy comes from the release of heat from those high energy bonds, not electricity. That's why we stay at a toasty 98.5 degrees. In reality, the human body is full of resistance so any large charges running through it would be disastrous.

Also, I will say you are right in that we don't know everything yet, but in a practical sense I still wouldnt say mysterious is the right word for it. Theoretically, there are questions still, but our models around that's stuff works.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

In my response, I pointed out that we don't run on electricity. That's fundamentally different than saying we don't NEED it. It's very important that our body uses ion potentials to create charges across membranes. That's fundamentally how anything in the body occurs electrically.

To your point of how does the energy get distributed, well that's not too complicated. Energy comes in many forms, and electricity one of many carriers of energy. Food is broken down and released as its buildig blocks into the bloodstream. Each individual cell then takes in what it needs and creates its own power. Most of it being in the form of inorganic phosphates (ATP, GTP, etc.) This energy comes from the release of heat from those high energy bonds, not electricity. That's why we stay at a toasty 98.5 degrees. In reality, the human body is full of resistance so any large charges running through it would be disastrous.

Also, I will say you are right in that we don't know everything yet, but in a practical sense I still wouldnt say mysterious is the right word for it. Theoretically, there are questions still, but our models around that's stuff works.

 

[Type Username Here]

Drop some of your thoughts/opinions... #higherlearning

Just random shyt in there that blew my mind. Some of it was more philosophical in nature than pure mathematical/scientific. Especially in regards to the relation between magnetism and electricity. How basically all of this is possible by making turbines and electric coils "mesh" with the magnetic fields to produce electricity. This is how power plants, nuclear plants, hydroelectric dams, wind turbines, etc essentially work. Just using energy to make physical things move to produce electricity from magnetic fields. I didn't really know that before so it was kind of ming blowing to me.

 

[Broke Wave]

Just random shyt in there that blew my mind. Some of it was more philosophical in nature than pure mathematical/scientific. Especially in regards to the relation between magnetism and electricity. How basically all of this is possible by making turbines and electric coils "mesh" with the magnetic fields to produce electricity. This is how power plants, nuclear plants, hydroelectric dams, wind turbines, etc essentially work. Just using energy to make physical things move to produce electricity from magnetic fields. I didn't really know that before so it was kind of ming blowing to me.

Stuff like this makes me wish Edison died in a train wreck and Tesla was the famous one.

 

[OneManGang]

Just random shyt in there that blew my mind. Some of it was more philosophical in nature than pure mathematical/scientific. Especially in regards to the relation between magnetism and electricity. How basically all of this is possible by making turbines and electric coils "mesh" with the magnetic fields to produce electricity. This is how power plants, nuclear plants, hydroelectric dams, wind turbines, etc essentially work. Just using energy to make physical things move to produce electricity from magnetic fields. I didn't really know that before so it was kind of ming blowing to me.

In chemistry, one of the most important tools we use is the NMR. Same principle as a MRI except usually more powerful. Anyway the concepts and math and theory behind these things is I really makes you appreciate the geniuses in the last century who pretty much consolidated all the knowledge and even produced novel ones.

 

[Type Username Here]

Stuff like this makes me wish Edison died in a train wreck and Tesla was the famous one.

For sure. The human race lost on that one.

There should be a statue of or road named after Tesla in every city in the world.

 

[Broke Wave]

For sure. The human race lost on that one.

There should be a statue of or road named after Tesla in every city in the world.

I saw one in Niagara falls

Dude was not only a genuinely brilliant scientist, he was a humanist philosopher, and by all accounts, a really nice and humble guy.

It's strange that even at the turn of the century, the GOAT people would be friends. He and Mark Twain were friends and he described a lot about him.

 

[Danie84]

I learned everything about electricity from this great cac first

 

[blackzeus]

everything has to have an origin... unless youre implying electric charges and electricity have always been here and WILL always be here. in that case, is electricity God?

Electricity cannot have emotions, and God is a jealous God, so I don't think electricity is God per se, But yes, the FLOW has an origin, but not electrons, electrons have existed as long as the atoms have Whether it was created on a specific day or not, that's not for me to say. What I can say is that the duplicity in how electricity behaves at the macro level and at the micro level makes it hard for me to believe in evolution. It's too organized, too many things have to be just right for it to be chance IMHO.

but does a lake every really sit still? does anything ever sit still?

This is a philosophical point, a lake with some movement is still a lake, but yes, a lake can have latent flow. But in general, there is a negligible amount of flow in a lake in comparison to river flow. Mathematics/physics/science in general is full of "approximations" and "negligible amounts" for calculations for our human understanding.

one constant of the universe is constant motion on the subatomic level, so is there ever a time the space surrounding us has a "flow" of absolute zero? we are in the earth's magnetic field so i cant imagine there is an absolute zero flow of energy anywhere on the earth.

0 flow only exists at 0 Kelvin, or at a temperature stasis where particles don't move, as I believe there are some particles still active at 0 Kelvin if I remember correctly (it's been almost 8 years). I'm not sure what's the relevance of absolute zero flow to our discussion, but in theory even when electrons are not moving they are spinning on themselves, creating flux when in contact with electrons spinning in an opposite directions, so it's doubtful to come across true 0 flux, but we can consider it "negligible" for our calculations. Technically, if you are measuring the temperature in a room, to be super accurate, you would have to account for the fluctuations in temperature caused by any organisms in the room (e.g., people, dogs, insects, etc), but for the purpose of knowing more or less the room temperature, the effects of those organisms in the room are negligible.

it's not linear it's a spiral, like a 3D sine wave. and what are your thoughts on the questions in the red?

You're not thinking 3-D, which is one of the first things you must learn to do when learning calc/physics. If you are standing on top of a sine wave, it is moving linearly

 

[blackzeus]

In my response, I pointed out that we don't run on electricity. That's fundamentally different than saying we don't NEED it. It's very important that our body uses ion potentials to create charges across membranes. That's fundamentally how anything in the body occurs electrically.

To your point of how does the energy get distributed, well that's not too complicated. Energy comes in many forms, and electricity one of many carriers of energy. Food is broken down and released as its buildig blocks into the bloodstream. Each individual cell then takes in what it needs and creates its own power. Most of it being in the form of inorganic phosphates (ATP, GTP, etc.) This energy comes from the release of heat from those high energy bonds, not electricity. That's why we stay at a toasty 98.5 degrees. In reality, the human body is full of resistance so any large charges running through it would be disastrous.

Also, I will say you are right in that we don't know everything yet, but in a practical sense I still wouldnt say mysterious is the right word for it. Theoretically, there are questions still, but our models around that's stuff works.

We are way more like a car that runs on fuel than a calculator that runs a battery. However our brain/nervous system is completely different, and definitely runs on electricity. Energy is transformed into electricity in our body so that our nervous system can send messages from one part of the body/brain to the other. While we don't run on electricity, our body definitely produces, and a Matrix style situation where a human body is fed and used as a batter is not that far fetched

 

[blackzeus]

Just random shyt in there that blew my mind. Some of it was more philosophical in nature than pure mathematical/scientific. Especially in regards to the relation between magnetism and electricity. How basically all of this is possible by making turbines and electric coils "mesh" with the magnetic fields to produce electricity. This is how power plants, nuclear plants, hydroelectric dams, wind turbines, etc essentially work. Just using energy to make physical things move to produce electricity from magnetic fields. I didn't really know that before so it was kind of ming blowing to me.

It's very simple, for electricity you need flow. Shifting magnetic flux always creates flow. Think about it like an hourglass. If you move it side to side, the sand flows, basically, there's different ways to make the "sand" move. On a macro level, it makes sense. On a micro level, sh*t is "mindblowing", because what is actually happening, is that technically speaking, if you organize the flow into a helix, it produces it's own induction, it magnetizes the other helix. Think about it as if you have an hourglass inside an hourglass. Moving the smaller hourglass causes the sand in the larger one to flow :mindblowing:

 

[blackzeus]

For sure. The human race lost on that one.

There should be a statue of or road named after Tesla in every city in the world.

Unless of course you want to create free energy and f*ck up the energy-politicial syndicate that runs half the globe Then we just bury your memory and hope your ideas never resurface.

 

[blackzeus]

By the way @LeyeT, this is a 5 star thread if there ever was one.

 

[OsO]

In my response, I pointed out that we don't run on electricity. That's fundamentally different than saying we don't NEED it. It's very important that our body uses ion potentials to create charges across membranes. That's fundamentally how anything in the body occurs electrically.

To your point of how does the energy get distributed, well that's not too complicated. Energy comes in many forms, and electricity one of many carriers of energy. Food is broken down and released as its buildig blocks into the bloodstream. Each individual cell then takes in what it needs and creates its own power. Most of it being in the form of inorganic phosphates (ATP, GTP, etc.) This energy comes from the release of heat from those high energy bonds, not electricity. That's why we stay at a toasty 98.5 degrees. In reality, the human body is full of resistance so any large charges running through it would be disastrous.

Also, I will say you are right in that we don't know everything yet, but in a practical sense I still wouldnt say mysterious is the right word for it. Theoretically, there are questions still, but our models around that's stuff works.

i think a lot of this depends on the definition we're using for "electricity." going by the dictionary definition we are talking about charged particles in motion, which obviously would it make it involved in everything, and certainly much more prevalent in the human physiological processes than you're implying.

so we need to determine how your working definition of electricity differs from the dictionary definition, and at which stage does electricity cease to be electricity (according to your definition) and thus devolves or evolves into a separate phenomena.

and again, simply by the fact we exist within the magnetic field of the earth means we are literally walking in a field of energy/electric charges. atoms have an electric charge, cells have an electric charge, the brain and heart both generate significant electromagnetic fields, so it seems to me there is nowhere that electricity isnt.