Let's talk about Emmanuel "Heart of the Congo" Mudiay

[HoopLife]

JR wasn't taking that weak ass league serious dumbass. You seriously think JR gives a fukk if his team made the Chinese playoffs ... He was using that league as a weed plate til the NBA lockout ended.

"Individual accolades notwithstanding, Smith was unable to lead Zhejiang into the 2012 CBA Playoffs, with the squad eliminated from contention as of February 12. But this also cleared a path back to the NBA, and he signed with the Knicks five days later."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._R._Smith#Zhejiang_Golden_Bulls_.282011.E2.80.932012.29


And Errick McCollum scored 82 points this year in China (highest points ever scored in the Chinese League) but can't even make a NBA team while his brother C.J McCollum is on the Portland Trailblazers so your trivial post doesn't mean shyt because it's just not about scoring points stupid bytch.

http://basketballbuddha.com/errick-mccollum-scores-82-points-in-loss-to-guangdong/

 

[O.G.B]

JR wasn't taking that weak ass league serious dumbass. You seriously think JR gives a fukk if his team made the Chinese playoffs ... He was using that league as a weed plate til the NBA lockout ended.

You ain't got shyt to respond or debate with because I shut that last idiotic response down with the quickness. First you want to use J.R Smith as a goalpost, but now his overall performance doesn't matter? Take your mindless, slow ass somewhere and crawl up under a rock fukk boy.

 

[HoopLife]

You ain't got shyt to respond or debate with because I shut that last idiotic response down with the quickness. First you want to use J.R Smith as a goalpost, but now his overall performance doesn't matter? Take your mindless, slow ass somewhere and crawl up under a rock fukk boy.

Your using Marbury's 3 Chinese championships to indicate why he would be a top tier NBA point guard, look how stupid you sound

 

[O.G.B]

Your using Marbury's 3 Chinese championships to indicate why he would be a top tier NBA point guard, look how stupid you sound

Not only has he won Chinese Championships, he was also one of the top tier NBA pg's at one time & his basketball knowledge & understanding how to play the game gives him other advantages than just athletic ability alone. But being the brainless bytch that you are, I wouldn't expect you to be able to pick up on this.

 

[DoubleClutch]

I knew this thread had to have a hidden element to be 8 pages.

Marbury a top pg is


But I still think he could play in the NBA

 

[HoopLife]

Not only has he won Chinese Championships, he was also one of the top tier NBA pg's at one time & his basketball knowledge & understanding how to play the game gives him other advantages than just athletic ability alone. But being the brainless bytch that you are, I wouldn't expect you to be able to pick up on this.

Nikka your a brain dead fakkit, he's dominating Chinese players that don't put any kind of pressure on ball handlers. He's gotten worse playing against that kind of competition for 7 years. If you seriously think Marbury has improved his game playing against that level of competition along with father time, your more stupid than I thought.

 

[I.AM.PIFF]

In a backup role, yes he would be a top quality PG in the right system/team. And you mentioning age which has nothing to do with his skill set. Tim Duncan is 39 & still very productive, so age ain't got shyt to do with this even you though you keep bringing it up.

Except Tim Duncan played in the league continuously and still is an effective player. Last time Marbury was in the league, he was horrible as a back-up and that was 6 years ago already. And you're backtracking heavy breh, you went from top talent/tier to "In a backup role, yes he would be a top quality PG in the right system/team"

So you know more than a famous NBA statistician, right? They are all primarily PG's, which is why they are compiled as such even if a few play other positions also. And I already stated that with Marbury playing a backup role in the NBA, he would be better than about 90% to 95% of these players that I've listed.

Gary Neal for example isn't a PG and they maybe more like him in this list. List has George Hill at 5, Isiah Thomas at 8 & Shved at 11. Rondo, despite his bad season, is way better than 40th. And a lot of these guys are known valors in the current league over Marbury.

nikka please! Marbury is a China legend & the number one reason his team has won 3 straight Chinese basketball championships. The majority of these young PG's I've listed ain't better than a veteran Marbury now & couldn't do what he's doing on regular basis in a less talented league.

The chinese league is very modest in term of talent breh Last time I checked, players who couldn't cut in the league were dominating. Yi Jianlian and Wang Zhi Zhi was shytting on fools there

 

[knickscrusaderm]

He out here giving out dimes again brehs .

At this rate we all finna be rich .

 

[Rich Spirit]

He out here giving out dimes again brehs .

At this rate we all finna be rich .

what were the Lakers thinking

 

[O.G.B]

Nikka your a brain dead fakkit, he's dominating Chinese players that don't put any kind of pressure on ball handlers. He's gotten worse playing against that kind of competition for 7 years. If you seriously think Marbury has improved his game playing against that level of competition along with father time, your more stupid than I thought.

The Chinese players put ball pressure on the primary ball handlers, it's just that they're not as athletic or as quick as most NBA talent to effectively defend. And you can definitely see some improvements in Marbury's game despite his decline in athleticism, specifically his mid range shooting, but of course I know you haven't really watched Chinese league play in depth & just talking out the side of your neck. Maybe you should change your screen name clown, because it's clear you don't know shyt from shinola.


Hoops Life

 

[jaydolf spitler]

He looking very impressive in Summer League. Im hoppin on the bandwagon

 

[O.G.B]

Except Tim Duncan played in the league continuously and still is an effective player. Last time Marbury was in the league, he was horrible as a back-up and that was 6 years ago already.

This is an asinine argument simply because they're once has been All-Stars still playing in the league "continuously" now who aren't as effective as they once were so just being in the NBA isn't a guarantee of future success from a skill standpoint. And personally I think Marbury wasn't horrible based on lack of declining skill but his disdain for the game, NBA politics & personal problems which affected his overall play.

And you're backtracking heavy breh, you went from top talent/tier to "In a backup role, yes he would be a top quality PG in the right system/team"

I never backtrack breh, unless I've made a factual error which I can readily admit. I mentioned Marbury as top tier talent, but I NEVER stated as a NBA starter which is two totally separate things all together.

Gary Neal for example isn't a PG and they maybe more like him in this list.

Hmm.....a lot of other sources seem not to think so. However Gary Neal, is really a combo guard more so than a pure PG or SG.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/1758396/gary-neal

http://www.bucksketball.com/2013/11...neal-at-point-guard-bucks-vs-celtics-preview/

http://www.poundingtherock.com/2012/3/1/2835941/gary-neal-back-up-point-guard

The chinese league is very modest in term of talent breh Last time I checked, players who couldn't cut in the league were dominating. Yi Jianlian and Wang Zhi Zhi was shytting on fools there

This is another silly comment. Emmanuel Mundiay had a stellar, but not dominating season in China but this doesn't mean that he will be a bust in the NBA or won't be a future superstar. At the end of the day, for each player, it's all relative based on a number of various factors & circumstances.

 

[AITheAnswerAI]

I like Mudiay's game, there's some crafty old man style to it. It's almost like how James Harden plays, but instead of scoring he's passing.

I think that will translate well into the league. He uses his mind and skill rather than just trying to out speed somebody.

 

[keepemup]

I like Mudiay's game, there's some crafty old man style to it. It's almost like how James Harden plays, but instead of scoring he's passing.

I think that will translate well into the league. He uses his mind and skill rather than just trying to out speed somebody.

I'm glad you said this. A word that came to me when reading this after watching those highlights is 'patient'. He never seems to be in a rush, just looking to make a play in an almost leisurely fashion.

His shooting will really have to improve however. At least he's got some scoring ability to tide him over until that comes around.

 

[I.AM.PIFF]

This is an asinine argument simply because they're once has been All-Stars still playing in the league "continuously" now who aren't as effective as they once were so just being in the NBA isn't a guarantee of future success from a skill standpoint. And personally I think Marbury wasn't horrible based on lack of declining skill but his disdain for the game, NBA politics & personal problems which affected his overall play.

So why bring up Duncan then? While TD is clearly not the same player as in his prime, his decline is due to his age and he stayed a very important piece to a NBA champion/contender. Marbury's case is totally the opposite. By the late 2000s, he experienced a huge fall off that got him out of the league.

I never backtrack breh, unless I've made a factual error which I can readily admit. I mentioned Marbury as top tier talent, but I NEVER stated as a NBA starter which is two totally separate things all together.

You went from TOP nba talent and TOP tier PG to a back-up in the "right system". Unless you have a very wide understanding of top tier/talent, this is backtracking. You don't even think he'd be a starter or compete with the top PGs. The best he can do is be a veteran PG with very limited playing time on a mediocre team, if even. That's very far from top tier breh. Either give me a hard & clear definition of top talent or we're just arguing semantics and abstract bullshyt, breh

Hmm.....a lot of other sources seem not to think so. However Gary Neal, is really a combo guard more so than a pure PG or SG.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/1758396/gary-neal

http://www.bucksketball.com/2013/11...neal-at-point-guard-bucks-vs-celtics-preview/

http://www.poundingtherock.com/2012/3/1/2835941/gary-neal-back-up-point-guard

Neal is clearly a shooting guard. His main strength is his shooting and he's never been known for any point guard duties, but this is something that I find unimportant to debate anyway.

This is another silly comment. Emmanuel Mundiay had a stellar, but not dominating season in China but this doesn't mean that he will be a bust in the NBA or won't be a future superstar. At the end of the day, for each player, it's all relative based on a number of various factors & circumstances.

Mudiay was a 18 yo prospect whose only reason to play in China was because of NBA draft eligibility rules. We all knew he was a surefire top 10 pick and he had very limited ambition in China compared to Marbury, whose made a career there. You, surely, can see the difference?