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that's not how a reference should work. that is how spam works: it just leads you back to the same site, therefore increasing their add revenue. that should be a red flag in general. it also leads to a situation where the person's 'opinions' are based on layers and layers of conjecture. Occam told me that not the best way to form theories

then you admit the links eventually lead to a dead link. but apparently that's my fault

:ohhh: ...... :yeshrug: ........ fair enough....
 

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Not sure how many pro gun brehs are in this thread but the panic has set in. You can't buy ammo, magazines or AR/AK rifles anywhere (at least online). All the major websites are out of stock and the smaller websites are price gouging. This is worse than 2008. :sadcam: I was just about to order some shyt too (was waiting to finish Christmas shipping).

Hopefully everyone gets cold feet for fear of the 2014 mid term elections looming.
 

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Michael Moore: ‘Put away your guns’ white people

Michael Moore: 'Put away your guns' white people

Filmmaker calls for regulations on ammo, ban on 'assault' weapons
Published: 3 hours ago

(CNSNews.com) – Documentary-maker and liberal activist Michael Moore said the reason for mass shootings in the United States is largely due to fear and racism, and on Christmas Eve he pleaded, “calm down, white people, and put away your guns.”

In a blog post entitled “Celebrating the Prince of Peace in the Land of Guns,” while still calling for stricter gun-control laws, Moore said such laws will not stop mass killings because of “who we are” as a nation.

“We are a country whose leaders officially sanction and carry out acts of violence as a means to often an immoral end,” Moore said. “We invade countries who didn’t attack us. We’re currently using drones in a half-dozen countries, often killing civilians.”



Michael Moore's Bodyguard Arrested on Airport Gun Charge | Fox News

Michael Moore's Bodyguard Arrested on Airport Gun Charge

Published January 20, 2005
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Filmmaker Michael Moore's (search) bodyguard was arrested for carrying an unlicensed weapon in New York's JFK airport Wednesday night.


Police took Patrick Burke, who says Moore employs him, into custody after he declared he was carrying a firearm at a ticket counter. Burke is licensed to carry a firearm in Florida and California, but not in New York. Burke was taken to Queens central booking and could potentially be charged with a felony for the incident.


Moore's 2003 Oscar-winning film "Bowling for Columbine" criticizes what Moore calls America's "culture of fear" and its obsession with guns.
 

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Democrats Seek the Holy Grail of Gun Control | Power Line

Posted on December 27, 2012 by John Hinderaker in gun control, Second Amendment

Democrats Seek the Holy Grail of Gun Control


Dianne Feinstein has announced that she will introduce sweeping gun control legislation in the Senate. Under her bill, countless standard handguns apparently would now be banned, and for the first time a federal register that may include many millions of gun owners, fingerprinted and photographed, would be created. This is how Feinstein describes her proposal on her web site:


Following is a summary of the 2013 legislation:

Bans the sale, transfer, importation, or manufacturing of:

* 120 specifically-named firearms

* Certain other semiautomatic rifles, handguns, shotguns that can accept a detachable magazine and have one military characteristic

* Semiautomatic rifles and handguns with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds

* Strengthens the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban and various state bans by:
— Moving from a 2-characteristic test to a 1-characteristic test
— Eliminating the easy-to-remove bayonet mounts and flash suppressors from the characteristics test
— Banning firearms with “thumbhole stocks” and “bullet buttons” to address attempts to “work around” prior bans

* Bans large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.

* Protects legitimate hunters and the rights of existing gun owners by:
— Grandfathering weapons legally possessed on the date of enactment
— Exempting over 900 specifically-named weapons used for hunting or sporting purposes and
— Exempting antique, manually-operated, and permanently disabled weapons

*Requires that grandfathered weapons be registered under the National Firearms Act, to include:

— Background check of owner and any transferee;
— Type and serial number of the firearm;
— Positive identification, including photograph and fingerprint;
— Certification from local law enforcement of identity and that possession would not violate State or local law; and
— Dedicated funding for ATF to implement registration


There is a great deal to be said about this, and much that is still not known, such as the identification of the 120 firearms that are to be specifically banned, or the 900 that are to be exempted. But here are a few preliminary comments:

1) I don’t think Feinstein’s legislation can pass the Senate, let alone the House. It will be poison to red-state Democratic Senators. Perhaps a scaled-down version can get through the Senate, however. In that case, it will never get through the House. If the Democrats wanted to do something to boost the standing of John Boehner and his colleagues in the House with conservatives, they couldn’t come up with anything much better than Feinstein’s proposal.

2) Liberals have wanted for decades to create a nationwide database of guns and gun owners. There is at present no federal system for registration of ordinary firearms. While Feinstein’s plan doesn’t get them all the way there, it would create a registration system that may cover many millions of guns and gun owners, depending on how the ambiguity noted below is resolved. The Democrats could work from there to establish a universal registration system in the years to come.

3) Based on Feinstein’s description, it is hard to tell how her proposal would affect standard semiautomatic handguns. Handguns with a “fixed magazine” holding more than ten bullets would be banned. That is dumb, but there are very few handguns with fixed magazines. (I don’t believe I have ever seen one.) Standard semiautomatics have detachable magazines. However, Feinstein’s ban also applies to “large-capacity ammunition feeding devices capable of accepting more than 10 rounds.” That sounds like it would cover detachable magazines. The large majority of standard, full-sized semiautomatic pistols have magazines that hold more than ten rounds. Does that mean that all such weapons would be included among those that are grandfathered under the bill? If so, countless millions of guns and gun owners would need to be registered.

4) I own one such full-sized pistol, an Armalite AR-24 with a 16-round magazine. Under Feinstein’s bill, would I would be required to register it, undergo a background check, and be photographed and finger-printed so that I can be enrolled on the federal register of gun owners? I can’t tell from Feinstein’s description. If so, I would have lots of company; most handgun owners, I am pretty certain, have at least one pistol equipped with a magazine that holds more than ten rounds.

5) The ban on handguns with magazines that hold more than ten bullets (assuming that is what is intended) is idiotic. If you want to shoot a lot of rounds in a short time, all you have to do is pre-load multiple magazines. People do this all the time.

6) Semiautomatic handguns with magazines that hold ten or fewer bullets are generally compact weapons, and often carry pieces. Small gun = small magazine = fewer bullets. Bigger handguns with bigger magazines are not as suitable for concealment and are not often carried. So the guns that would fall outside of Feinstein’s legislation are the ones that are easy to conceal. A user can fire more than ten shots with such firearms simply by changing magazines, which takes a second or two.

For the reasons noted, some clarification is required before we can understand the full scope of Feinstein’s proposal. It is hard to say, at this point, whether it is merely grandstanding by Feinstein that will soon be forgotten, or whether it represents the first shot in an all-out war against gun owners (i.e., red America) by the Democratic Party
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Discovery Channel To Cancel Two More Gun Shows

Broadcaster’s vendetta against second amendment intensifies

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
December 19, 2012

Following its decision to cancel the hit gun show American Guns in response to the Connecticut school massacre, the Discovery Channel has signaled that two more firearms-based programs are set to be axed.

Despite admitting that Sons of Guns has enjoyed “pretty solid ratings,” Discovery Channel spokeswoman Laurie Goldberg indicated to the New York Times that the show would not get the green light for a new season.

“All I can say is, it is not on the schedule and it is not on the schedule in the near future,” said Goldberg, responding “There is no data that I am aware of,” when asked if the show had been renewed.

Sons of Guns is a reality show that centers around Red Jacket Firearms, a Louisiana-based company that manufactures custom firearms. The show occasionally features gun-enthusiast celebrities such as Aerosmith guitarist Joe Perry, who recently appeared on the program to test fire a fully automatic M4 assault rifle.

In addition to the demise of Sons of Guns, the Discovery Channel also announced that firearms enthusiast and musician Ted Nugent would not be returning to the channel in any form.

“After Friday’s devastating massacre at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut, the spokesperson said that Nugent would definitely not be returning to the Discovery Channel,” reports Raw Story,despite claims by Nugent and the NRA that his one hour special, Ted Nugent’s Gun Country, was set to be made into a regular series and that “there will be at least a dozen shows a year.”

As we reported on Monday, the Discovery Channel announced that the popular reality show American Guns will not return for a third season, following complaints that it was “inappropriate” to broadcast the program in the aftermath of the Sandy Hook elementary school shootings because it made “buying/owning guns seem fun, glamorous, even normal.”

A Discovery Channel spokesperson added that the fallout from the massacre “has really started something,” and that even repeats of the show would not be aired.

In targeting pro-gun shows that teach people how to exercise their rights for cancellation, the Discovery Channel has taken a firm stance against the second amendment and is implying that the mere discussion of guns is now off limits.
 
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Turns out Adam Lanza didn't even use an AR-15. He had 4 pistols. Left the AR-15 in his car.

link??? ....I saw a video of police going to the car and pulling out a rifle or something from the trunk??

I'm confused...............yeah....how do you confuse that if this is true?? I mean what weapon did they find in the schoo next to himl? where is the simple video of him walking into the school, that could nip a lot of questions in the bud?
 

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link??? ....I saw a video of police going to the car and pulling out a rifle or something from the trunk??

I'm confused...............yeah....how do you confuse that if this is true?? I mean what weapon did they find in the schoo next to himl? where is the simple video of him walking into the school, that could nip a lot of questions in the bud?
 
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