Let's Talk About Gun Control

[88m3]

Yup. Can you refresh me on the 18th again?

Was that the one where the government banned something in order to ensure safety and decency of the populace?

How did that work out again?



Like I said earlier, if you can get an amendment to pass to repeal or change the 2nd Amendment, I will support the new law.

 

[Type Username Here]

 

[88m3]

I think it's great you don't a problem with your "rights" infringing on others.

 

[Type Username Here]

I think it's great you don't a problem with your "rights" infringing on others.

This coming from a Zionist that claims Israel has a right to defend itself at any cost, to the point of breaking international law and committing Human Rights violations?

 

[88m3]

Get over it.

Your emotions come second to the law of the land. If you don't like the law of the land, change it. There is process to amend it.

Try to push it through.

Why are you telling me to get over it?
You're the one being emotional. So you can put that one to bed.
We're having a discussion although one sided.


I know how scared people are of change. It's going to be alright friend.

 

[Type Username Here]

This coming from a Zionist that claims Israel has a right to defend itself at any cost, to the point of breaking international law and committing Human Rights violations?

He doesn't mind the Palestinian kids dying so he can keep his right to the Jewish Homeland and for Israeli safety and rights.

 

[88m3]

He doesn't mind the Palestinian kids dying so he can keep his right to the Jewish Homeland and for Israeli safety and rights.

Apparently someone has an alias. Quoting yourself is so demonic.

 

[Type Username Here]

Apparently someone has an alias. Quoting yourself is so demonic.

I quoted myself because you just ignored that part of the post. Still diverting it.

 

[88m3]

I quoted myself because you just ignored that part of the post. Still diverting it.

Reads quoted text of quoted text again. I said stop behaving like a demon.
The truth will set you free.


And you've edited your post!


oy vey


I'm diverting and you're talking about Palestinians and Israel and g-d only knows what else now!


Oh friend... oh friend....

 

[88m3]

Your dishonesty is ugly!

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You have been calling people names throughout this whole thread. Not once, under your own control, have you supplied a source with any valid data to back up your argument.
You have admitted in this thread:

1) While other countries have stricter gun laws, their violence is higher.
2) While other countries have significant per capita gun ownership, there doesn't seem to be any significant gun violence
3) That there seems to be social and economic issues that distinguishes between these countries (and not the guns themselves)
4) That Britain, which went way beyond if what you were previously advocating in this thread, still has homicides and illegal weapons come through the ports and into their streets.


Your entire argument just stinks of emotional outburst, and understandably so. It was an absolutely tragic event. All of these school shootings are.

Your entire argument just stinks of emotional attachment to guns. You throw logic out the window and try to use and angle you can to justify your need to own a gun.

1)Plenty of other countries show us that strict gun laws do work. Even Britain which you love to bring up has much less gun violence than America.

2)Those other countries still have much less guns per capita than the U.S. and they have much stricter laws and regulations.

3) Our laws should reflect our issues. It's easy to pick any single country and find a data point to support your position, but lets look at America.
Washington Post

8. States with stricter gun-control laws have fewer deaths from gun-related violence.

Last year, economist Richard Florida dived deep into the correlations between gun deaths and other kinds of social indicators. Some of what he found was, perhaps, unexpected: Higher populations, more stress, more immigrants and more mental illness were not correlated with more deaths from gun violence.
But one thing he found was, perhaps, perfectly predictable: States with tighter gun-control laws appear to have fewer gun-related deaths. The disclaimer here is that correlation is not causation. But correlations can be suggestive.

And before you jump on this correlation disclaimer, all your evidence from other countries rely on correlations as well. I'd say we should follow our own not another country's.

4)They still have less gun violence than America. Yes they still have a problem with guns, but it is not as bad as ours. So if you are saying that criminals will always get guns then how do we stop that? Is there any way to reduce the amount of guns that criminals have? Plenty of other countries have reduced the amounts of guns on their streets, how can this be done in the U.S.?

 

[daze23]

He better get started on that Texas secession petition that got around 150,000 signatures first.

actually the Texas one only got around 120k sigs, and will probably lose the lead today

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions/popular/0/2/0/

the Texas one also lists NDAA and the TSA as reasons for secession. get it where you fit in I guess....

 

[Type Username Here]

actually the Texas one only got around 120k sigs, and will probably lose the lead today

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions/popular/0/2/0/

the Texas one also lists NDAA and the TSA as reasons for secession. get it where you fit in I guess....

The point is that both are absurd and the White House won't do anything about either.

The Texas one can list what they please, we all know it was because the black guy won again.

 

[Type Username Here]

Your entire argument just stinks of emotional attachment to guns. You throw logic out the window and try to use and angle you can to justify your need to own a gun.

You can say whatever you want, but just understand that the law is on my side. The burden is on you to prove why the government needs to take the rights of owning a gun away.

The problem is that you are on such an emotional roller coaster, that you don't understand that cities have put in place these strict gun laws you advocate. And they have all been ruled unconstitutional. And these were recently by the way

We live in a society of rules. It doesn't mean you can change that with a snap of the finger.

Sorry to have to introduce to to 9th Grade Civics and Government, but it's true friend.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

You can say whatever you want, but just understand that the law is on my side. The burden is on you to prove why the government needs to take the rights of owning a gun away.

The problem is that you are on such an emotional roller coaster, that you don't understand that cities have put in place these strict gun laws you advocate. And they have all been ruled unconstitutional. And these were recently by the way

We live in a society of rules. It doesn't mean you can change that with a snap of the finger.

Sorry to have to introduce to to 9th Grade Civics and Government, but it's true friend.

Oh so throw all the common sense out the window, and follow one persons interperatation of a 250 year old document. Yeah that makes sense.

Some people interperate the second amendment to refer to state militias not individuals. To me it doesn't matter either way.

At one point in time it was argued that slavery was protected by the constitution. Times change, situations change, and laws change. It is the way things work.