Let's talk about how the Marine Corps has been propping up the US Army since WWI

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WWI:
During World War I veteran Marines served a central role in the late American entry into the conflict. Unlike the Army, the Marine Corps had a deep pool of officers and NCOs with battle experience, and experienced a smaller expansion. Here, the Marines fought their famed battle at Belleau Wood, creating the Marines' reputation in modern history. While its previous expeditionary experiences had not earned it much acclaim in the Western world, the Marines' ferocity and toughness in France earned them the respect of the Germans, who rated them of stormtrooper quality[:ohmy:].

Between the World Wars, the Marine Corps was headed by Commandant John A. Lejeune, and under his leadership, the Corps presciently studied and developed amphibious techniques that would be of great use in World War II. Many officers, including Lt. Col. Earl Hancock "Pete" Ellis, foresaw a war in the Pacific with Japan and undertook preparations for such a conflict. Through 1941, as the prospect of war grew, the Corps pushed urgently for joint amphibious exercises and acquired amphibious equipment that would prove of great use in the upcoming conflict.

Korean War:
The Korean War (1950–1953) saw the hastily formed Provisional Marine Brigade holding the defensive line at the Pusan Perimeter. To execute a flanking maneuver, General Douglas MacArthur called on Marine air and ground forces to make an amphibious landing at Inchon. The successful landing resulted in the collapse of North Korean lines and the pursuit of North Korean forces north near the Yalu River until the entrance of the People's Republic of China into the war.

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We all know what happened after the Marines passed the baton to the Army in Mogadishu.

We all know the Marines have been given the toughest AOs in both Afghanistan and The Iraq War as well.
 

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Yeah Inchon was a beauty.

Was that the last real amphibious assault?
 

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The Army has been holding sh1t down for the US before there was a US.

The Army does the looooooooooonnnnnnnggggggggggg haul. Army is the reason the world doesn't fck with the US, not the Marines. Marines complete missions, are effective and well trained. The Army completes indoctrinations, completes complete takeovers, completes imperialistic procedures, and is the reason people remain contained once the Marines have left. NTM United States Army Rangers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

By nature Marines would have naturally done better in Korea. But the Army held sh1t down along the Marines in WW2.

The Army have been propping up the entire US mission since WW1. The marines are good at killing, being the first in, and completing short missions. All wars involve more than that; there's killing, peace keeping, humanitarian aid, movements of resources, building of permanent bases, oppression of civilians, propaganda, etc.
 

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The Marine Corps has been America's expeditionary force in readiness since 1775. We are forward deployed to respond swiftly and aggressively in times of crisis. We are soldiers of the sea, providing forces and detachments to naval ships and shore operations. We are global leaders, developing expeditionary doctrine and innovations that set the example, and leading other countries' forces and agencies in multinational military operations. These unique capabilities make us "First to Fight," and our nation's first line of defense.

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The Army has been holding sh1t down for the US before there was a US.

The Army does the looooooooooonnnnnnnggggggggggg haul. Army is the reason the world doesn't fck with the US, not the Marines. Marines complete missions, are effective and well trained. The Army completes indoctrinations, completes complete takeovers, completes imperialistic procedures, and is the reason people remain contained once the Marines have left. NTM United States Army Rangers - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

By nature Marines would have naturally done better in Korea. But the Army held sh1t down along the Marines in WW2.

The Army have been propping up the entire US mission since WW1. The marines are good at killing, being the first in, and completing short missions. All wars involve more than that; there's killing, peace keeping, humanitarian aid, movements of resources, building of permanent bases, oppression of civilians, propaganda, etc.



That's exactly my point good sir. The Army is supposed to be the occupying force but it seldom occurs and for good reason to.

There are reasons why Marines are shifted to certain AOs.

Can't forget about this. The US Government fukked up by not allowing this to happen:

While still under review, [the proposal's] supporters, including some in the Army, argue that a realignment could allow the Army and Marines each to operate more efficiently in sustaining troop levels for two wars that have put a strain on their forces…


At the moment, there are no major Marine units among the 26,000 or so American forces in Afghanistan. In Iraq there are about 25,000 marines among the 160,000 American troops there… The plan would require a major reshuffling, and it would make marines the dominant American force in Afghanistan, in a war that has broader public support than the one in Iraq…


They said it would allow the Marines to carry out the Afghan mission in a way the Army cannot, by deploying as an integrated Marine Corps task force that included combat aircraft as well as infantry and armored vehicles, while the Army must rely on the Air Force… The Marines… are designed to be an agile, “expeditionary” force on call for quick deployment, and thus can go to war with everything needed to carry out the mission — troops, armor, attack jets and supplies.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/11/washington/11military.html?_r=0


They didn't want to win, only occupy. I wonder why.
 

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cant front, i always wondered why they have marines in afghanistan

They have them there for the wrong reason: to occupy and provide stability.

The reason they should be there is to defeat the enemy.

Like I said in the post above, Marine Generals practically begged the DOD to move Marines from Iraq to Afghanistan because the Marine Generals knew that the Army was losing ground there.

Our government didn't want to do that for some odd fukking reason.
 

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They have them there for the wrong reason: to occupy and provide stability.

The reason they should be there is to defeat the enemy.

Like I said in the post above, Marine Generals practically begged the DOD to move Marines from Iraq to Afghanistan because the Marine Generals knew that the Army was losing ground there.

Our government didn't want to do that for some odd fukking reason.

because of what the funkdoc posted.
If you want it destroyed you send in the Marines. They're good at blowing shyt up on scales we can barely imagine. "We blow more shyt up by 6am than any other military branch blows up all day":myman:

If you want reprogramming and the such you send in the army.
 

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