let's talk about pippen shutting down mark Jackson during ECF 98

[Truth Hurts]

Mark Jackson was arguably the slowest and most unathletic point guard in the NBA at the time. If he did it to A.I it would be threadworthy.

You must not watched Jackson Sir. Correct he was slow and a little on the sloppy, but that dude was huge for a PG. he would back down every opposing pg he played against (hence why they put Pippen was put on him), because harper would have been bodied every play. nikka, you know why there is a 5-second back down violation, because of Mark Jackson. He was methodical as fukk taking 10-15 seconds bodying PGs.

For a damn SMALL FORWARD to draw the defensive assignment on a damn point guard speaks volumes about how dangerous he can be.

 

[mbewane]

To this day I haven't seen a better defensive player than Pip. Maybe Rodman because he could guard centers too.

Still insane that he never got DPOY, and Coward got like 3

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

It was a pretty special performance, Jackson was coming off 2 monster performances while eliminating the Knicks

Jackson was forced into 14 TO's in the opening 2 games

Pippen was picking him up full court and rotating to double, and getting back in Mark's face

Mark Jackson
I remember after he would ether us he would mock Larry Johnson with X sign

 

[Luke Cage]

i'm glad you made that statement about mike at the 8 min mark. this is the key difference between mike and kobe. the reason why mike was able to maintain such a high fg% is because pippen(and at this time kukoc) were both running point forward. meaning they were the ones that had the job of looking for teammates and running the offense. the moment mike touched the ball it was 100% about him scoring that ball. the only time he was to pass is if he really was in trouble. notice how quick he makes a decision to score on his defender(s). thats what gives him the advantage. also look at that old era defense, hand checking but no help behind the initial defense like today with that zone.

Kobe with the lakers always had two jobs. it was to be pippen and jordan. set up his teammates, run the offense, while also scoring at will. doing this means you have to Draw the double team to then swing the ball around. but doing this makes you shoot a lower fg% because you're inviting a double team without you being on the move. thats going to be very hard to beat. and this is not about assist numbers. assist numbers dont show you who was the floor general or the guy running the offense.

it sucks that Kobe only got to play with scrubs like Shaq, Bynum, Gasol, Dwight, Metta.

 

[Luke Cage]

To this day I haven't seen a better defensive player than Pip. Maybe Rodman because he could guard centers too.

Still insane that he never got DPOY, and Coward got like 3

that is crazy but it makes sense when you consider the competition. Hakeem and D Rob were basically locks for the majority of their primes. Then you had the glove and Dikembe to contend with as well. not to mention Rodman and MJ on your same team. i could make arguments for either one of these players.

 

[IAmGettingAMailOrderBride]

Was luc longley any good, he started

 

[Whitty Hutton]

What a random thread. A top 50 defensive specialist player shutting down a 1 time all-star who was also half a foot shorter isn't really thread worthy at all

 

[Brozay]

What a random thread. A top 50 defensive specialist player shutting down a 1 time all-star who was also half a foot shorter isn't really thread worthy at all

people who didnt watch it while it happened wouldnt understand, i get it man

 

[Street Knowledge]

i'm glad you made that statement about mike at the 8 min mark. this is the key difference between mike and kobe. the reason why mike was able to maintain such a high fg% is because pippen(and at this time kukoc) were both running point forward. meaning they were the ones that had the job of looking for teammates and running the offense. the moment mike touched the ball it was 100% about him scoring that ball. the only time he was to pass is if he really was in trouble. notice how quick he makes a decision to score on his defender(s). thats what gives him the advantage. also look at that old era defense, hand checking but no help behind the initial defense like today with that zone.

Kobe with the lakers always had two jobs. it was to be pippen and jordan. set up his teammates, run the offense, while also scoring at will. doing this means you have to Draw the double team to then swing the ball around. but doing this makes you shoot a lower fg% because you're inviting a double team without you being on the move. thats going to be very hard to beat. and this is not about assist numbers. assist numbers dont show you who was the floor general or the guy running the offense.

"I never asked Michael to be a playmaker," Jackson said. "That's the greatest player that I've ever had, that I could consider the greatest player in the game, and I never asked him to be a playmaker in those terms. I asked him to be playmaker when he was doubled or tripled. But Kobe has to set up the offense, to advance the ball, to read the defense, to make other players happy, and he's doing a great job of that."

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2001/...7/1205474.html

 

[Whitty Hutton]

people who didnt watch it while it happened wouldnt understand, i get it man

I watched every Bulls series from the Pistons walk off on. Pippen shutting down Mark flippin Jackson just didn't need it's own thread. Make a "98 ECF Appreciation thread" and mention that in your thesis statement.

 

[Majestic Pape]

How many NBA player today guard players from inbound??

Now you got players rolling the ball on the floor knowing the defender won't even go near him till he cross half line

Scust

You act like players were being guarded full court all of the time in the 90s. Scottie Pippen could afford to do that to Mark Jackson because of his (lack of) foot speed.

Imagine somebody trying to guard Kyrie Irving full court all game or Stephen Curry or Derrick Rose or Russell Westbrook.

 

[Majestic Pape]

both pippen and mark jackson were born in the same year tho.......

And Mark Jackson never had anywhere near the type of athleticism or physical ability that Pippen had though.

 

[mbewane]

that is crazy but it makes sense when you consider the competition. Hakeem and D Rob were basically locks for the majority of their primes. Then you had the glove and Dikembe to contend with as well. not to mention Rodman and MJ on your same team. i could make arguments for either one of these players.

Yeah I understand that, but I chalk that up to the big man prejudice. What Pip did on the court defensively (with or without MJ and Rodman) was just at another level during his prime at the Bulls. I'm not sure MJ was that much a better defender than Pip, nor was the Glove.

 

[Brozay]

People are so quick to just start hating on anything here, sorry @malcolmxxx_45

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

People are so quick to just start hating on anything here, sorry @malcolmxxx_45

They started watching NBA in 2006

Nikkas dissing Marc

But he would bully kyrie in the post if he played today