Let's talk about the Moors.

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You do know that the Moors were conqueered/enslaved by invading Roman and arab armies and they were well known for their dark black complextion right? The oringinal Moors were closer to Haratines than the Roman, arab, and French mxied Biedine mutts whom are now occupy Mauritanai.
Care to tell me where you got it from that beidanes are part french ?


As for the Moors. No individuals or communities in Africa call themselves Moors. In the dark ages any African muslim got called this name by Spanish or other latin europeans. Even today spanish people call Mooroccan immigrants los Moros. What we got from the Moors mostly comes from witnessings of Spanish Christians and from the Moors themselves.

To know who the Moors were and why for some its synonymous with blackness you have to be aware of who the Al Mourabitoun(Almoravids) that occupied Spain and created an empire that spread from Spain to southern Mauritania with Marrakech in Morocco as their capital were. This movement was founded by Sanhaja berbers. Sanhaja berbers are Saharan berbers ancestors of the contemporary Moors of northwest Africa. Except in the deep south Blacks were never a majority in the regions they conquered. The blacks that were part of the Al Mourabitoun army and the Mourabitoun reformist movement that occupied Spain were from the indigenous north-african black minority, from the black slave communities in North-Africa and young men from black-african allies (for instance the black muslims of Tekrour*)of the Al Mourabitoun who took part in this jihad movement. All west-african, arab-berber and european scholars agree on this. Almoravid movement was started by arabised berbers and joined by Arabs and blacks and even white european converts. It was basically a north-westafrican muslim movement which included white, brown and blacks, arabs, berbers and black-africans. Why some claim the Mourabitoun that occupied Spain and founded Marrakech were exclusively black is beyond me. Blacks were part of it but can not claim exclusivity.


If you refute these facts please tell me how come these “dark black Moors ”close to the Haratines who invaded and occupied Spain for centuries were 100% muslim, spoke Arabic and berber, wrote in Arabic script and didn’t leave any black descendants in Spain. Where do they come from and where are they now ? Every single black individual has a tribe. Which tribe or tribes do the Moors come from. They wrote in Arabic so they must have written that down in their tarikhs(history books).


*I can tell you were some of the ''Moors'' come from: in the 11th century the king of Tekrour War Diaby, southern neighbour of the Almoravid empire sent troops to his Almoravid ally Abu Bakr Ibn Omar to attack the Ghana empire and to go occupy Spain.
 

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Their influence can be found throughout Europe, Africa, Asia and even here in North America. They were here during colonial times. Yet history hasn't been kind to the story of their being.

I mean fukk, they ruled over Spain for 800 years and not even the Spaniards will acknowledge that. Never mind the Italians....and their olive skin.

Anyone have any insight? Or stories about the Moors?

shyt, I'll even take the Illuminati and Free Mason stuff. I think any discussion will be useful.

Spaniards deny the historical existence of Al-Andalus...? Says who?
 

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esteban dorantes or ''esteban the moor'', for one, was a black man who went to the americas as a slave for the spanish and was one of four (out of 600) who survived a shipwreck off the coast of texas after failing to conquer tampa bay. they lived with natives for 4 years in the south until they got back to mexico. he was known to learn native languages & customs quickly, and seduced many native women. they sent esteban back to the south, ahead in a scouting party with indians, where he lured the spanish further and further along until they found out the arizona natives had killed him. but there is some evidence this was likely not the case and esteban possibly tricked the spanish out of his freedom, and escaped. the book Crossing the Continent tells this story and could be found online...
 

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When Africans conquer another people yall praise it

when Europeans do its evil cavemen

make up your minds :mindblown:
 

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Holy Roman Emperor Charles V of Spain

That's not Charles V, this is--\/

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The dude, actually most of the Hapsburg, suffered from physical and mental deformities due to excessive interbreeding. Charles II got it the worse.
 

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That's not Charles V, this is--\/

Bernaerd_van_Orley_004.jpg


The dude, actually most of the Hapsburg, suffered from physical and mental deformities due to excessive interbreeding. Charles II got it the worse.

to say the Hapsburgs, essentially the most powerful family in Europe (and arguably the world) for about 500 years, were mostly mentally deformed is a gross generalization. Charles V of Hapsburg, in particular, was a product of the union of the House of Aragon/Castille and the House of Hapsburg. His grandparents, therefore, being the product of the union of the House of Castille and the House of Aragon. His only real connection to the Hapsburg lineage is through his grandmother on his fathers side, Mary of Burgundy, who married the Holy Roman Emperor Maximillian I (a Hapsburg).

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The majority of Hapsburgs were married to local nobility in order to shore up the family control of the disjointed Holy Roman Empire. Inbreeding was mostly a characteristic of the doomed Spanish Hapsburgs who emerged after Charles V divided his Empire following the Peace of Augsburg (1555)

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:whoa::huhldup::demonic:
 

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Their influence can be found throughout Europe, Africa, Asia and even here in North America. They were here during colonial times. Yet history hasn't been kind to the story of their being.

I mean fukk, they ruled over Spain for 800 years and not even the Spaniards will acknowledge that. Never mind the Italians....and their olive skin.

Anyone have any insight? Or stories about the Moors?

shyt, I'll even take the Illuminati and Free Mason stuff. I think any discussion will be useful.

The conquest began with an invasion by an army that (according to traditional accounts) consisted largely of Berber Northwest Africans and was commanded by Tariq ibn Ziyad. They disembarked in early 711 at Gibraltar
Umayyad conquest of Hispania - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

By 1252 only the Kingdom of Granada remained as sovereign Muslim state in the Iberian peninsula.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconquistahttp://www.the-coli.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=3694145

About 500 years.
 

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Damn ya'll nikkas ain't even really talk about them
ok...

simply put they were smart and advanced.

All white people on Earth were divided into demonic cave dwelling cannibalistic backwards groups.

Asians had small groups collected under empires.

Blacks were ALL over the place. No unity AT ALL. Random tribes and even the kingdoms were easily overtaken because of lack of Unity.

When the Muslim armies finished taking over Egypt and other lands..... Berber descendants , moor, some other north africans were like... :ohhh::patrice:

Culturally....... there wasn't much they would have to change. These were some of the most advanced people on Earth so hygienically, spiritually, eating, burying people, sex laws, etc.. weren't too much of a transition... plus they already had the similar slave policy were you couldn't str8 up abuse a slave.

They decided to join rather than fight the new Egyptians or any other group of Muslims.

Only 1/10 of the people who conquered Iberia were non black Muslims. Supposedly much of Iberia was already black.

Maybe you can say the original moors were forced into Islam, but there wasn't a fight or anything........ They just decided to join to form a force - Since they were really the only united group (united under Islam regardless of tribe) no other group could really fukk with them at the time.

The best periods of Europe were build up by men like this

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When Africans conquer another people yall praise it

when Europeans do its evil cavemen

make up your minds :mindblown:
I think it's the difference between sucking a culture and people dry ...........or helping to build them up.

Or maybe mentally manipulating or.... advancing the mindset.

Forming unions first .. before killing...............as opposed to the str8 up conquer, kill, enslave, destroy mentality.

European is better because of African invasions... even European scholars and histories agree. NO person on the planet who isn't a demon himself would say the same for any land that a white person has stumbled upon.


Not killing the first white trader in africa and chopping up the body is the greatest mistake in human history.

Think of a virus.
 
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