Lets talk about the oxymoron that is the "Black Greek" organization...

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I did not say you are doing nothing. I said a lot of things but that was not one of them. Dora, Thomas and several others have clearly pointed that out that BGLO's are doing something.

The issue is, it's not having much impact. Do you not find that odd that you will sacrifice for something that would not sacrifice for your blood? I asked what is your collective groups(Divine 9) doing to end systematic white supremacy? Now I clearly do NOT expect what you will do will end it but it should at least be impactful, would you agree with that notion to say the least?

:laff: B, if it has no impact then you're saying we're not doing anything. The hell are you splitting hairs for? Nah don't walk your shyt back cause you realize how stupid it sounds, so you wanna soften the blow.

Please tell me/us what member and which of our programs are not having an impact. We're dying to know :feedme:

Do you not find that odd that you will sacrifice for something that would not sacrifice for your blood?

:laff: :laff: :laff: :laff: :laff: :laff: What does this even mean!?
 

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I can only speak to on my organization and my chapter specifically but we started a twice a week mentorship and tutoring program for elementary and middle schoolers, held a bunch of voting drives, put principals and superintendents from our chapter into the school system, have scholarships for high schoolers entering undergrad...

I'm sure other chapters are doing similar. I think you would be better satisfied if your charter said our mission explicitly was to end white supremacy though

Either way, gotta start somewhere
Once again, I clearly am NOT naive, I know you can't end systematic white supremacy, I need to see measurables to try. The risk does not equal the reward in this case. Deloitte and other corps do mentorship. Hell, I mentor two kids on a regular basis, not just some school shyt. Voting drives don't really matter in a system of white supremacy so that nothing to praise, it's more than the avg college student but the average college student is trash. The other two would only be important if I we had a measurement for the results of those alums in those positions. Every organization with nearly as many years in existent as this gives scholarships. shyt, athletics give scholarships, how is that ending or even getting us closer to ending white supremacy? Our numbers are off the roof bad. If doing white frat shyt is your idea of helping the community, we don't give a fukk about the community. This is organization verison of handing out Turkeys to the hood.

I need something impactful. This is what white people do to us. Melinda Gates gives full scholly to all Blacks under a certain income who was admitted to Duke. That helps the Black community so much because I our Duke students are really the average Black man or woman right...
 

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Once again, I clearly am NOT naive, I know you can't end systematic white supremacy, I need to see measurables to try. The risk does not equal the reward in this case. Deloitte and other corps do mentorship. Hell, I mentor two kids on a regular basis, not just some school shyt. Voting drives don't really matter in a system of white supremacy so that nothing to praise, it's more than the avg college student but the average college student is trash. The other two would only be important if I we had a measurement for the results of those alums in those positions. Every organization with nearly as many years in existent as this gives scholarships. shyt, athletics give scholarships, how is that ending or even getting us closer to ending white supremacy? Our numbers are off the roof bad. If doing white frat shyt is your idea of helping the community, we don't give a fukk about the community. This is organization verison of handing out Turkeys to the hood.

I need something impactful. This is what white people do to us. Melinda Gates gives full scholly to all Blacks under a certain income who was admitted to Duke. That helps the Black community so much because I our Duke students are really the average Black man or woman right...


And that's fair. At the same time we can all ask ourselves what have we done to end white supremacy right? Like I said, we have to start somewhere.

In my opinion, the end of white supremacy begins with drastic economic change. In my mind that means a huge leap forward in entrepreneurship.

What we have to keep in mind is that BGLO members come from the same neighborhoods as everyone else. They graduate school, realize they may not make what they expected to since they were sold a college dream, and they're strapped down with debt. Not to mention you can't go home like your white peers. You're probably sending money home every pay check.

It's hard to start businesses that can employ other black people under those conditions. You have to get your life in order, then your family in order before you can change your community.

I have a lot of thoughts on this. My friends and I are putting some plans in motion towards these objectives. Hopefully we will succeed.
 

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:laff: B, if it has no impact then you're saying we're not doing anything. The hell are you splitting hairs for? Nah don't walk your shyt back cause you realize how stupid it sounds, so you wanna soften the blow.

Please tell me/us what member and which of our programs are not having an impact. We're dying to know :feedme:



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Thanks, I though you would never ask.

1. Take @dora_da_destroyer Delta chart.

  1. Economic Development;
  2. Educational Development;
  3. International Awareness and Involvement;
  4. Physical and Mental Health; and
  5. Political Awareness and Involvement.
Actually use this shyt for real.

For economic dev- Every member has to do an internship with an alum for one summer. We have numerous doctors (my cuz for example), lawyers (Loretta Lynch) and others who can and NEED to help. Work with the companies for this. Create a large collection trust which will give interest free loans to members for businesses. Work directly with Black banks and credit unions to see the best deals you can get for your frat/soror as a collective. This would spark change in the Black community. Of course, they need to vetted, proven to have previous experience or success and a sound business plan in a location that can help the Black community. This way, we guarantee that all Blacks in the Divine 9 will have a chance at career and economic success while supporting the Black community which is our #1 objective.

Require all member pay dues for educational development- This will be used in relation to Black schools, Black home schools, Black colleges even if your Black ass went to a PWI and Black independent schools like the one Umar wants to create for example. This will in action raise our property value, raise our living standards and make you actually want to live around other negros cause lord knows most of us DON'T!

International Awareness and shyt like woman's right can only matter once 1 and 2 is taking take of or else we playing grab ass and while we at it, for starters, men and women have a 50/50 split and we must work as a team. No fukk boyery or fukk girlery. Making people aware of cacs killing us isn't what we need, everyone already knows. We need to buy out our politicians and control these fukkers since that's what the cacs do. In turn, we can create own narrative for the masses. If you got white Greeks who don't like it, fukk em. fukk all bytch made people who aren't down for the letters and Black people. fukk em!

Physical and mental health should be 1st but no one gives a shyt if they got a terrible education and they are hungry so money is first. We as negros are mental damaged by white supremacy. All of us. We need help but we can't get help from white supremacy and we need to reeducate our Blacks ones as well. This would change a generation in a matter of just 5 years. No doubt about it. Five years but 1 and 2 has to be done 1st.

3 should be 5 and 5 should be 3. International awareness is only important if you got your ducks in a row. We don't. It's the last thing we need to worry about. Seriously, no wonder these divine nine groups are shytty for the Black community, your priorities is poorly planned.

@tru_m.a.c, what do you think?
 

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And that's fair. At the same time we can all ask ourselves what have we done to end white supremacy right? Like I said, we have to start somewhere.

In my opinion, the end of white supremacy begins with drastic economic change. In my mind that means a huge leap forward in entrepreneurship.

What we have to keep in mind is that BGLO members come from the same neighborhoods as everyone else. They graduate school, realize they may not make what they expected to since they were sold a college dream, and they're strapped down with debt. Not to mention you can't go home like your white peers. You're probably sending money home every pay check.

It's hard to start businesses that can employ other black people under those conditions. You have to get your life in order, then your family in order before you can change your community.

I have a lot of thoughts on this. My friends and I are putting some plans in motion towards these objectives. Hopefully we will succeed.
The issue is, you trying to take this on as an individual. I worked with too many guys who do that with no experience. It's not close to easy and it's unlikely unless you got a great skill which is nearly impossible unless you been exposed which 99% of us aren't and parents have great start-up funds with VC connects for grabs. This is why I said, these groups from the top can change the fukking world. @dora_da_destroyer posted something that is great in theory and complete shyt in execution. If we truly executed it, it would be LIT!
 
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@Qohelet Why are you still entertaining these folks...they aren't going to tell you about their organization. Most of low-level nobodies with no knowledge on it.

They don't even know the symbols on their crest/shield mean.
 

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hmm when you realize that the average black person is trying to get in where they fit in then these arguments become pointless. Compared to the collective the individual black person cares about their black ass which speaks on the condition we are in collectively. Dont get me started on the orgs cause I have stories for days @Fonsworth did you go through with it, I hope your booty hole is okay.
 

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Aint nothing gonna be a oxymoron about that neg I'ma hit you up with it, OP. :umad:
 
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The only thing "Greek" about those organizations are the letters. Y'all get worked up over the dumbest shyt.
Im confounded over here man

No one in a fraternity gives a shyt about ancient Greece. Ive never heard two frat boys walking down the street like "Yo, man... I can't believe agamemnon went out like that" :heh:
 

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hmm when you realize that the average black person is trying to get in where they fit in then these arguments become pointless. Compared to the collective the individual black person cares about their black ass which speaks on the condition we are in collectively. Dont get me started on the orgs cause I have stories for days @Fonsworth did you go through with it, I hope your booty hole is okay.
Thanks Dr. Brehette I didn't join though.
 

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The Alphas and AKAs may have started as social group (and nothing wrong with an educated elites, black people need more). Others emerged that focused on community outreach like Delta, Omega, Sigma. In a sense everything starts from Africa, the organizations greek lettered organizations in the United States (white dominated and not Africa) just as the Latino Pan Hellenic council. I see it as a way for blacks to legitimately organize in foreign system and see no problem. Many of my childhood friends, their parents and grandparents pledged.

Personally I never cared to join even though I did the cotillions and surrounded by it as a child.

Kinda reclusive and shy away from people, especially group of nikkas, and the only "sibling" I claim lives across country; not a bunch of people I attended college and was hazed with.
 

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Ignorance on this forum can be so sublime. Dudes making strong ass haterish statements while not having a clue what they're talking about and then got the nerve to argue about it. And this is coming from someone who never even pledged.

I see the value and work they put in the community. And even if they didn't they are allowed to exist.
 
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