Religion/Spirituality Lets talk about the role of Africa in early Christianity..

[emoney]

Yeah Ethiopian Jews emigration to Ethiopia is of great antiquity. They're recognized in Israel as one of the lost tribes, the tribe of Dan to be exact. According to their oral history they left after the Babylonians crushed the buildings and gradually migrated through Egypt and stayed until the defeat of Cleopatra's Egypt to Rome. So they left again, some went through Arabia south to Yemen while others followed the Nile or the coastline through Sudan and Eritrea into Ethiopia. Then when Emperor Caleb conquered Yemen and placed it in Axumite control those Jews that went to Yemen migrated to Ethiopia to join the rest of their group in Simien mountains.

Only ones that converted the Judaism out of their group are those that can trace their lineage back to the Agaw people whom are considered the original inhabitants of the northern highlands that Ethiopian Jews came to occupy and dominate early on.

As for the other point, you omitting Sudan's Christian history kinda makes his point tho. Sure early Christianity was mostly an East African affair, doesn't mean it wasn't African. I get what you're saying, but anyone with a brain will know that using such a broad term like Africa is merely to show that Africans(Egyptians, Sudanese, Ethiopians, etc) had a major involvement in the development of today's major religions.

I asked you specifically, WHERE DID THE ETHIOPIANS JEWS MIGRATE FROM? (where was their starting point, their homeland...if not Ethiopia)

Sudan has a Christian history, like Mali and Nigeria have an Islamic history... what's your point? MY POINT IS: The Abrahamic religions are not indigenous to the African continent no matter how early you may find their presence.They were imports. DEAL WITH IT!

Using a broad term like Africa when talking about a religion's history is not merely to show that Africans had a major involvement in the development in the religion...It is an attempt to make Black people of African descent content and comfortable in believing and belonging to a religion that was imposed on them by foreigners.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

So now since the bible clearly states that Jesus was black, now folks want to say no, you are just interpreting it wrong

Dudes we can read, we know what it says

It doesn't say he was 'Black'.

Revelation 1:14-15

And his head and his hair were white as wool and like snow, and his eyes were like flames of fire.

And his feet were in the form of the brass of Lebanon which is heated in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of many waters.​

 

[TheProfessor]

So you are saying that Ethiopian Jews are different then Ethiopian Christians and Muslims genetically speaking?

Where did these Ethiopian Jews emigrate from 1000s of years ago?

It's not about separating Ethiopia and Egypt from the African continent....It's about not being disingenuous and making it seem like Christianity was all over Africa precolonial times (when it reality it was only in Egypt and Ethiopia)

Ethiopia encompassed much of the populated part of Africa back then. Wasn't the small country you see today.

 

[emoney]

Ethiopia encompassed much of the populated part of Africa back then. Wasn't the small country you see today.

Early Christianity was not present outside of modern day Egypt and Ethiopia.

I know what you guys are trying to do (amplify the presence of Christianity across the whole continent of Africa by providing anecdotal evidence and playing semantics)

 

[emoney]

It doesn't say he was 'Black'.

Revelation 1:14-15

And his head and his hair were white as wool and like snow, and his eyes were like flames of fire.

And his feet were in the form of the brass of Lebanon which is heated in a furnace, and his voice was like the sound of many waters.​

exactly!

when hiphoplvies4eva paraphrased the scripture he was careful to leave out the "white as wool" part lol

also brass is an alloy of copper and zinc and has a similar color/appearance to gold

HHL4evca also said that Jesus had a bronze complexion

original Black people have a carbon, ebony complexion

 

[TheProfessor]

Early Christianity was not present outside of modern day Egypt and Ethiopia.

I know what you guys are trying to do (amplify the presence of Christianity across the whole continent of Africa by providing anecdotal evidence and playing semantics)

What do you mean by modern day Ethiopia? So you're applying today's country lines to thousands of years ago? Based on what?

 

[TheProfessor]

exactly!

when hiphoplvies4eva paraphrased the scripture he was careful to leave out the "white as wool" part lol

also brass is an alloy of copper and zinc and has a similar color/appearance to gold

HHL4evca also said that Jesus had a bronze complexion

original Black people have a carbon, ebony complexion

And tell me...what does brass that's been burnt in a furnace look like?

 

[MostReal]

how "Black" was he? was he light skin, dark skin, brown skin, pale skin?

what does it even mean to be "black"? what is the definition?

who is black? who is not? who comprises this group?

did jesus ever refer to himself as "black"? if not, why should we?


look, don't play dumb, cause I can too.........if your gonna come in this thread substantiate your claims or shut up.

breh I'm the wrong one to try on this subject. I've done plenty of research & reading of the bible & other interpretations. I made entire threads on this. I know what black people look like & how our hair is...that's all that matters.



you guys are in here quoting scriptures incorrectly. I go by KJV ONLY and Hebrew interpretations. The bible talks about color throughout the Old testament, you guys are just too blind to see it. Now I don't know if black people in America are the 'true israelites' but I do know one thing. That bible clearly states that the people in that book are black with woolly hair. No one else looks like that except black folks.

Its amazing that as long as people claim Jesus wasn't black the thread is allowed to go on but when I made my thread documenting the history of white people & their origins which debunked and proved all of this in question... it was locked.

And tell me...what does brass that's been burnt in a furnace look like?

like this... FINE BRASS

in terms of his hair it would have denoted something different than WOOL if it was anything other than woolly. Wool is used to describe the texture. 'Like Snow' is used to describe color of his garment. Black people only have woolly hair. That means it was white & woolly.

 

[MostReal]

I asked you specifically, WHERE DID THE ETHIOPIANS JEWS MIGRATE FROM? (where was their starting point, their homeland...if not Ethiopia)

Sudan has a Christian history, like Mali and Nigeria have an Islamic history... what's your point? MY POINT IS: The Abrahamic religions are not indigenous to the African continent no matter how early you may find their presence.They were imports. DEAL WITH IT!

and they still WERE black people rather they came from Africa or not. They had a relationship there & always went back there when needed to be among people who LOOKED like them. Even if their faith was different.



you can argue with the word all you want but its there & its logic is clear

 

[emoney]

And tell me...what does brass that's been burnt in a furnace look like?

does the scripture say brass that was burnt in a furnace?

 

[emoney]

breh I'm the wrong one to try on this subject. I've done plenty of research & reading of the bible & other interpretations. I made entire threads on this. I know what black people look like & how our hair is...that's all that matters.

you guys are in here quoting scriptures incorrectly. I go by KJV ONLY and Hebrew interpretations. The bible talks about color throughout the Old testament, you guys are just too blind to see it. Now I don't know if black people in America are the 'true israelites' but I do know one thing. That bible clearly states that the people in that book are black with woolly hair. Know one else looks like that except black folks.

Its amazing that as long as people claim Jesus wasn't black the thread is allowed to go on but when I made my thread documenting the history of white people & their origins which debunked and proved all of this in question... it was locked.

your not saying anything worth responding to

 

[emoney]

What do you mean by modern day Ethiopia? So you're applying today's country lines to thousands of years ago? Based on what?

The Tewahedo Orthodox Church was only present in Ethiopia and Eritrea (used to be one state)

The Coptic Church was present in Egypt and Sudan (both used to be one state)


^^^ these are the only early forms of Christianity on the African continent

So when I say "African" Christianity was confined to Egypt and Ethiopia this is what I mean. These churches were located in specific parts of Africa.

 

[MostReal]

your not saying anything worth responding to

Honestly there is nothing you can respond with. I put up nothing but scripture...either you accept it or you do not.

Not my problem...but the word is the word.

 

[TheProfessor]

The Tewahedo Orthodox Church was only present in Ethiopia and Eritrea (used to be one state)

The Coptic Church was present in Egypt and Sudan (both used to be one state)


^^^ these are the only early forms of Christianity on the African continent

So when I say "African" Christianity was confined to Egypt and Ethiopia this is what I mean. These churches were located in specific parts of Africa.

Right. And what I'm saying is that Ethiopia (which was what the land mass now named Africa used to be called) encompassed a much bigger portion of Africa than it does today.

 

[TheProfessor]

does the scripture say brass that was burnt in a furnace?

Yes.

And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace - KJV