Let's talk about these WWE fans constantly cheering heel turns and beatdowns

[R=G]

It's really not a big deal, breh.

It's a big deal because it didnt happen in the Hogan and Flair era.

 

[Cartier Murphy]

This is what happens when heel turns are one of the only important events that happen anymore, and one of the only things that makes a character interesting again. Title wins outside of Kofi’s earlier in the year don’t really matter much anymore, returns have lost all significance outside of a long shot like Punk coming back, debuts are almost nonexistent outside of a redebut like The Fiend. What else is there to cheer for or excite you really in modern WWE? I didn’t see Bayley turn but it’s a change for an otherwise stale character and the most exciting thing that’s happened with her in years. It shouldn’t be like this but in modern WWE where nothing really matters a heel turn is like the only way they know how to spice up an otherwise dead character (that they themselves killed) and inject some new life into the show

 

[stro]

It's a big deal because it didnt happen in the Hogan and Flair era.

It did for Flair turning on people multiple times, actually. The smark heels are cool contingent always existed, they're just the majority now.

 

[CBoz]

Becky Borden still getting stabbed in the back.

 

[JerseyBoy23]

The first thing 90% of people said to me when I was a kid in the 90s and told them I liked wrestling was "don't you know it's all fake"? I'm sure that was true in the 80s too, but that's besides the point.

Obviously since the rise of the internet and social media any kind of mystery or sense of kayfabe is completely dead, but the idea that the majority of fans didn't know what they were watching was fake is absurd. The product itself (WWF anyway) was so clearly fake. As obviously fake as a comic book movie. But we had magazines, there was the wrestling exposed doc in the 90s, you had McMahon exposing the business to athletic commissions saying it was fake, calling their shows exhibitions. I probably knew wrestling was fake before I knew Santa didn't exist.

Right. Wrestling has been getting exposed as scripted since the 1930s, the main difference now is that we know about their personal lives and they interact outside of kayfabe with fans, which kills the mystique they had.

Even after knowing it's scripted, fans still wanted to believe that all the guys were bad asses but they've been exposed in the last decade or so.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

It's not the fans fault, really. You give the fans some bullshyt for years, Vince decided that he wanted the company itself to be a heel. So now we in a situation where fans are cheering and booing based off the fukkin booking...

So the fans sitting there like and then something finally interesting happens and they are about it. Makes sense to me.

Can't compare New Japan because New Japan has been booked well and they have met fan expectations. WWE has been coasting since 2001.

 

[Toe Jay Simpson]

If you’re a face getting cheered getting beat up, you’re just not a good face. Don’t put that on the crowd.

 

[Mr. Manhattan]

It's a big deal because it didnt happen in the Hogan and Flair era.

different times, Stone Cold and Rock were never getting booed when they turned heel

 

[Sghost597]

That’s WWE’s fault for making shyt babyfaces and trying to copy the Daniel Bryan formula for five years. Bayley was already stale and damaged goods going back to the Charlotte feud in 2017. Of course a change in character was gonna get a pop.

Plus, people love villains in 2019.

People love villains, because WWE water down faces so much with making them unrelateable and cartoony.

John Cena was stupid over as a face in first reign, but Vince drop the thuganomics persona and made him become a Saturday morning cartoon character.

 

[Reality Check]

Partly WWE's fault. Their habit of shoving faces down the fans throats for years at a time have programmed them to cheer for who they're "supposed" to boo.

To add onto this, WWE is executing heel turns years after they should have pulled the trigger. Bayley and Banks should have been turned years ago, but for whatever reason, they weren't and they came off stale. People are cheering the turns because they're finally happening. I'm sure if one came out of nowhere (i.e. if Big E were to turn on Kofi), he'd get booed, but many of these turns that are being alluded to are ones that should have happened much earlier.

 

[ALonelyDad]

Most baby faces are generic and corny these days. The last good one I remember is D Bryan at his peak. Fans loved him fully.

The heel is just much more interesting in today’s WWE.

 

[Homer Simpson]

You think wrestling wasn't exposed as fake until the internet?

Hogan burned a fukkin Wrestling Observer live on ppv

 

[Rell84shots]

The heels are getting booed.

 

[puppetmaster]

They make the babyfaces dorks who read off scripts and talk in a way no normal person speaks in for the most part.

Part of the pop heel turns get is like

“finally. .. something different”


Def their own fault it happens but it’s not a bad thing, at least people care enough about Bayley for instance to react.

They have tons of folks that would get crickets if they turned either way on the roster at the moment.

 

[BrehWyatt]

Nah. This bytch still looks like a thumb

No idea what that has to do with anything.

Ass is immaculate though.