Let’s talk Donavon Mitchell

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I will say this, Charles Barkley was right a season or 2 ago when he said Donovan Mitchell isnt that impactful of a player. For any player this day in age to only have maybe 2 double-doubles and 0 triple-doubles shows that.

All he looks to do is score. The stat of passing just 2 times/game to Gobert shows that. He doesnt get rebounds or assists if he is having an off game. Gotta help out in other ways on the court then just scoring.

He is basically Allen Iverson of today, except teams now score 110 a game instead of 85-90, so those points dont mean as much.

Edit: I looked it up, and he has 7 Double-doubles in his career.
AI got to the finals. Took game 1 from LA in LA and went down shooting against Shaq & Kobe Wild disrespect....
 

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No way he an all star

Inefficient chucker. Jerry stackhouse of our day

Let's talk talk about how yall were putting him over Book a few years ago and calling him the next Wade. :scust:

Another guy who isn't that guy

but what you expect from a dude with with an MS-13 nickname

I will say this, Charles Barkley was right a season or 2 ago when he said Donovan Mitchell isnt that impactful of a player. For any player this day in age to only have maybe 2 double-doubles and 0 triple-doubles shows that.

All he looks to do is score. The stat of passing just 2 times/game to Gobert shows that. He doesnt get rebounds or assists if he is having an off game. Gotta help out in other ways on the court then just scoring.

He is basically Allen Iverson of today, except teams now score 110 a game instead of 85-90, so those points dont mean as much.

Edit: I looked it up, and he has 7 Double-doubles in his career.

I'm hesitant to say he could potentially be a number 3 on a chip team..

#TheShift :picard:
 

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AI got to the finals. Took game 1 from LA in LA and went down shooting against Shaq & Kobe Wild disrespect....

Outside of that Finals run, Iverson won just 3 playoff series in his entire 14-year career. Missed the playoffs 6 times, lost in the 1st round 4 times, and lost in the second round the other 3 times. For his career shot 40% in the playoffs and 32.7% from three-point.

In that one big 2001 playoff run that basically carries Iverson's entire rep as a playoff performer, he didn't carry the team as much as it's portrayed. Sixers won off of an incredible defensive performance, if Iverson had put up those same offensive numbers for any other team then he's going home.

1) In the first round he shot 11-28 and 10-31 in Games 3 and 4....and Philly won both to close out the series.

2) In the ECSF they faced the Raptors, who with Chris Childs / Alvin Williams at guard and Dell Curry backing them had the second-worst defense of any team remaining in the playoffs. Iverson had two incredible 50-point games in that series....but in the other 5 games he shot 11-34 (lost), 7-22 (lost), 10-30 (won), 6-24 (lost)...and in the crucial Game 7 he shot 8-27 with 4 turnovers....and the Sixers still won.

3) In the ECF the Sixers faced the Bucks who had the WORST defense of any playoff team. Sam Cassell, Ray Allen, and Glenn Robinson on the perimeter, with Ervin Johnson and Scott Williams inside, they weren't stopping anybody. Yet Iverson shot just 34% for the series. Game 1 he shot 13-35 and they still won. Game 2 he goes 5-26 and they lose. He rested Game 3 which they lost, then came back in Game 4 and shot 10-32 and yet they won. Game 5 he shoots 5-27.....and they win again. 14-33 in a losing effort in Game 6 and then a great Game 7 that everyone remembers the series by and they make the Finals.

I mean that's fukking crazy that he could shoot 27% against a bad defense for the first 5 games of the series including 5-27 in Game 5, still win the game to take a 3-2 lead in the ECF....and yet that's seen as the ultimate accomplishment that makes it impossible to compare any "mere all-star" to him. If Donavon Mitchell shot 33-120 in the first 5 games and they lost in 5 then he'd be lambasted for it, but the Sixers were strong enough to pull out those games even with Iverson missing 3/4 of his shots. DPOY Mutombo averaging 17-17 and 3 blocks a game completely locking down the middle, Arron McKie putting up 16-5-7 while locking down every primary scorer at guard, but get no credit. Come on now.
 
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I said he was trash way back when Hayward was still on the Jazz. He's a dummy chucker fake wannabe D-Wade; too much ego, too little IQ. Certain players I felt instant disgust after watching for like 3 games. Westbrook is #1 on that list, but Mitchell is up there.

Oh word you were? Because I don’t think they ever played together :rudy:
 

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He was pretty great in the last two postseasons. I don't think he's THAT guy but Utah's pretty limited offensively. He's their only real creator in the starting lineup and that chucker Clarkson is probably the only other guy who can create their own shot on a consistent basis. Maybe Bogdanovic too but I look at him more as a finisher.

That’s cool and all, but that’s still no excuse for him getting outplayed by Brunson this entire series. With that being said, he’s not the only guard on the roster who deserves criticism as Conley has been playing even worse.

You’re also overlooking another major flaw about Mitchell. Yeah, he can create his own shoot but he’s mehhh at doing it for others unlike other guards in the league with an above average passing game. It was essentially the reason why they went out and got Conley in the first place. His skillset in its current form just isn’t good enough to run a offense as the lead guy.
 
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Outside of that Finals run, Iverson won just 3 playoff series in his entire 14-year career. Missed the playoffs 6 times, lost in the 1st round 4 times, and lost in the second round the other 3 times. For his career shot 40% in the playoffs and 32.7% from three-point.

In that one big 2001 playoff run that basically carries Iverson's entire rep as a playoff performer, he didn't carry the team as much as it's portrayed. Sixers won off of an incredible defensive performance, if Iverson had put up those same offensive numbers for any other team then he's going home.

1) In the first round he shot 11-28 and 10-31 in Games 3 and 4....and Philly won both to close out the series.

2) In the ECSF they faced the Raptors, who with Chris Childs / Alvin Williams at guard and Dell Curry backing them had the second-worst defense of any team remaining in the playoffs. Iverson had two incredible 50-point games in that series....but in the other 5 games he shot 11-34 (lost), 7-22 (lost), 10-30 (won), 6-24 (lost)...and in the crucial Game 7 he shot 8-27 with 4 turnovers....and the Sixers still won.

3) In the ECF the Sixers faced the Bucks who had the WORST defense of any playoff team. Sam Cassell, Ray Allen, and Glenn Robinson on the perimeter, with Ervin Johnson and Scott Williams inside, they weren't stopping anybody. Yet Iverson shot just 34% for the series. Game 1 he shot 13-35 and they still won. Game 2 he goes 5-26 and they lose. He rested Game 3 which they lost, then came back in Game 4 and shot 10-32 and yet they won. Game 5 he shoots 5-27.....and they win again. 14-33 in a losing effort in Game 6 and then a great Game 7 that everyone remembers the series by and they make the Finals.

I mean that's fukking crazy that he could shoot 27% against a bad defense for the first 5 games of the series including 5-27 in Game 5, still win the game to take a 3-2 lead in the ECF....and yet that's seen as the ultimate accomplishment that makes it impossible to compare any "mere all-star" to him. If Donavon Mitchell shot 33-120 in the first 5 games and they lost in 5 then he'd be lambasted for it, but the Sixers were strong enough to pull out those games even with Iverson missing 3/4 of his shots. DPOY Mutombo averaging 17-17 and 3 blocks a game completely locking down the middle, Arron McKie putting up 16-5-7 while locking down every primary scorer at guard, but get no credit. Come on now.

Lol they not gon lyk dis:lolbron:
 

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Outside of that Finals run, Iverson won just 3 playoff series in his entire 14-year career. Missed the playoffs 6 times, lost in the 1st round 4 times, and lost in the second round the other 3 times. For his career shot 40% in the playoffs and 32.7% from three-point.

In that one big 2001 playoff run that basically carries Iverson's entire rep as a playoff performer, he didn't carry the team as much as it's portrayed. Sixers won off of an incredible defensive performance, if Iverson had put up those same offensive numbers for any other team then he's going home.

1) In the first round he shot 11-28 and 10-31 in Games 3 and 4....and Philly won both to close out the series.

2) In the ECSF they faced the Raptors, who with Chris Childs / Alvin Williams at guard and Dell Curry backing them had the second-worst defense of any team remaining in the playoffs. Iverson had two incredible 50-point games in that series....but in the other 5 games he shot 11-34 (lost), 7-22 (lost), 10-30 (won), 6-24 (lost)...and in the crucial Game 7 he shot 8-27 with 4 turnovers....and the Sixers still won.

3) In the ECF the Sixers faced the Bucks who had the WORST defense of any playoff team. Sam Cassell, Ray Allen, and Glenn Robinson on the perimeter, with Ervin Johnson and Scott Williams inside, they weren't stopping anybody. Yet Iverson shot just 34% for the series. Game 1 he shot 13-35 and they still won. Game 2 he goes 5-26 and they lose. He rested Game 3 which they lost, then came back in Game 4 and shot 10-32 and yet they won. Game 5 he shoots 5-27.....and they win again. 14-33 in a losing effort in Game 6 and then a great Game 7 that everyone remembers the series by and they make the Finals.

I mean that's fukking crazy that he could shoot 27% against a bad defense for the first 5 games of the series including 5-27 in Game 5, still win the game to take a 3-2 lead in the ECF....and yet that's seen as the ultimate accomplishment that makes it impossible to compare any "mere all-star" to him. If Donavon Mitchell shot 33-120 in the first 5 games and they lost in 5 then he'd be lambasted for it, but the Sixers were strong enough to pull out those games even with Iverson missing 3/4 of his shots. DPOY Mutombo averaging 17-17 and 3 blocks a game completely locking down the middle, Arron McKie putting up 16-5-7 while locking down every primary scorer at guard, but get no credit. Come on now.


I appreciate backing up the point, and not just subscribing to AI fandom. It was no slight to AI as an overall player. AI is one of my favorites to watch all time. He was a volume shooter and a defensive liability is the point, like Donovan Mitchell.

If the NBA was better shooting in 2001, he wouldnt be able to get away with 10/31 and 5/27 games.
 

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Donovan doesn't have a legit point guard to get him to his spots. He should not be bringing up the ball 24/7

And he needs a better coach to have a system where he's off the ball. Him trying to create at the top of the key would never be a good thing
 
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