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  1. YoNoSe

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    One thing I like to do is put myself into bad positions when rolling and fight from there.
     
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    It helps decrease panic, I completely understand.
     
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    Yes sir!
     
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    oh you local to me
     
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    What part?
     
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    i haven't done a copa in a minute but im in the tampa area
     
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    Cool


    Doing Arte Sauve in Clearwater nx weekend.
     
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    Got 2 more stripes today.

    I'm glad, cuz folks round the gym were acting like I was about to go from a 2 stripe white, straight to blue.


    Hopefully this allows me to get 2-3 more competitions at white b4 I make that leap to blue.
     
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    Congrats! It’s been a while since I posted on this thread. I’m a 4-stripe brown. Was about to open a school and the pandemic hit. I’ve been starting to garage roll again with a couple close friends. Can’t go back to the gym yet.

    I bet you would’ve been okay if you went straight to blue. Sounds like you’re hungry and would’ve risen to the challenge, even if it was early. Congrats on the stripes and I’m glad it’s moving at the pace you wanted!

    :salute:
     
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    Absolutely. It’s a great skill. Also, it’s helpful to develop a habit of this at least before purple. By the time purple comes a lot of people don’t want to do this, and they don’t really have to. At that point they have a good offensive game, and don’t have the habit built up of working out of bad positions.

    There’s a reason why some super world class grapplers get subbed if they actually do get threatened. They don’t have as much practice in bad positions because they never needed to. The world class guys that do better in bad positions frequently cite that they developed the habit of training some defensive and counter-attacking skills earlier on.

    Plus, it gives me a lot of confidence when attacking. If something doesn’t go my way and I end up in a bad spot, I feel okay knowing that it’s not the end of the world.
     
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    Good shyt fam. Hopefully you can get things up and running soon.

    Thx, man it's been tons of fun so far.
     
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    @TheDarceKnight

    When you get the time lmk what you think.

    Thx
     
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    100% agree.

    When I first started I had to learn to control my breathing and don’t panic under a heavy side control or mount from a heavier opponent. Using your arms for framing and creating a separation goes a long way. You can get to half guard and start getting creative
     
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    Sorry I'm late. Wanted to give it proper attention.

    Love the takedown. Reminded me of Big Nog and Fedor on that kosoto towards the underhook side :salute:

    I really like the change to pass towards mount at 1:03. I was just starting to think that it might be a good idea to either switch directions, pass to mount, or pop up to try a knee slide or some other type of more upright passing if you were wanting to keep passing to your left. Then bam, you did switch it up. The mount especially is becoming a lost art in pure grappling, so I like that you went towards it. I don't know how it felt in the moment, but if you feel that you can walk a little higher up to your right before trying to mount, that might make the mount easier next time.

    At 1:42 there are a couple of ways you could have gotten over that knee without gettng put back into closed guard. I'm sure you know the one where you frame the right hand on the hip and use your forearm and elbow to frame against their left thigh/knee, and possibly even press it down, until you can get your leg over it to force a more smashed half guard.

    Another thing I'd even say (that some other upper belts might disagree with) is posting on the knee/lower thigh with your hand and just shoving it down. :hubie: It's not the best long-term habit, and people down the road will definitely make you pay for opening your elbow by hitting you with kimuras, omoplatas, etc, but as long as you're aware that you're opening your elbow and you do it quickly against other lower belts, I think it's not the worst idea. I think it’s cool to break the rules as long as you’re aware of it. Especially in that position you were in. Just a quick pop with the hand and then it comes right back up.

    I'm impressed you got the closed guard open without standing up. Nice work forcing half guard and coming to both feet. When you get put into the semi-X guard, I’m pretty blown away you hit the Marcelo Garcia “leg over pass” at 2:45, and right to the back? Nice work!

    good mount pressure. Good finish.

    That was a fun match. I’ve noticed a lot of white belt matches end up in the half guard, even if neither person wants it to. It seems like you’re comfortable from top half, which should give you a pretty big advantage over a lot of opponents. People get to half guard on either side of the coin and often get totally lost.

    Sorry for the the essay. I love watching rolls and footage. Great work out there!
     
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    Great rolls. How Andre rolls with him in a textbook example of how to roll with someone when you’re an elite grappler.

    here’s More footage of Josh Hinger (Atos black belt in your video) and Israel working together on the north south choke. And another on the guillotine. I love the idea of Israel learning guillotine and monoplata gems from Hinger and darce gems from Tye and Kade Ruotolo at Atos. If Israel starts having a nasty sub game that’d be awesome.


     
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