Let's talk pick up game - PUA

[Killigraphy]

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[Killigraphy]

Fair enough. My only question to you at this point is just how natural do you feel when you're working these sets. Do you feel like you're totally being yourself? Or are you just going through some sort of script/playbook while interacting with these women on your set.

That question has been brought up not only by me, but by Socrates, its the oldest question in the book. "But are you really you?" Who is I and what is me, etc, etc. Without going into existentialism 102, I'm both the actor in a play and the mask said actor wears. I come at everything with something to gain, I have to, that's the mindset, its nice being aloof, but at some point you're going to want to be closing. Is there a playbook? nah, there used to be when I was young; start with kino escalation, follow with negging, etc...now it's turned into more of a freestyle. The only strat I use is the classic ABC - Always be closing. Even if you fail just know that you performed like a champion.

Ultimately this is about you, the self. I've met countless men at bars, work, etc that talk the good game, they have advice for everyone, but when an above average girl comes through, they freeze up, get nervous, or flat out remain silent till she leaves. From ugly guys to pretty boys, I've seen em all fail. They over think and doubt themselves. Getting laid is fun, but if I help a guy climb out of his shell, its much more rewarding....for both of us.

 

[Kyle C. Barker]

That question has been brought up not only by me, but by Socrates, its the oldest question in the book.

socrates philosophies and hypothesis

"But are you really you?" Who is I and what is me, etc, etc. Without going into existentialism 102, I'm both the actor in a play and the mask said actor wears.

So basically you're playing a role

and the role you're specifically playing is the man that you think the chick wants

I come at everything with something to gain, I have to, that's the mindset, its nice being aloof, but at some point you're going to want to be closing. Is there a playbook? nah, there used to be when I was young; start with kino escalation, follow with negging, etc...now it's turned into more of a freestyle. The only strat I use is the classic ABC - Always be closing. Even if you fail just know that you performed like a champion.

Ultimately this is about you, the self. I've met countless men at bars, work, etc that talk the good game, they have advice for everyone, but when an above average girl comes through, they freeze up, get nervous, or flat out remain silent till she leaves. From ugly guys to pretty boys, I've seen em all fail. They over think and doubt themselves. Getting laid is fun, but if I help a guy climb out of his shell, its much more rewarding....for both of us.

I was gonna break down this part until I realized you sound like every single pick up artist with a youtube channel. this is probably the type of meandering cliche mess you find in their books and videos. . Always be closing. what are you? a car salesman? you trying to pickup some new clients?


you're a carbon copy at this point which to me means that you haven't mastered yourself like you think you have.

 

[Keep_It_Hip_Hop_Fam]

It changed my life around tbh

Anyone looking to start, should start with David Deangelo and maybe some Love Drop videos.

 

[Drake is God]

You must not get laid that much.

Anytime I see this kind of response, its usually from guys who are either afraid of interacting with women or just plain suck at getting as far as a handjob with a girl they like. I can tell you this much, from experience; women don't know what they want, and part of the game is always having plan b, that's not to say that you're gonna bang everything you want, however, there's no such thing as a situation you can't close...if you can't always be closing; consider it a to be continued.

Guys who are afraid of interacting with women turn to these ghastly looking "pick up artists" for advice.

No amount of game will make a woman attracted to you buddy.

Since women don't sleep with every man they are attracted to, the ability to take that attraction and turn it into a sexual experience is game.

A man with weak game doesn't capitalize on that attraction, doesn't portray himself in a confident, bold manner, and the woman is not compelled to be with him in a romantic manner.

A man with strong game sees the attraction, portrays himself in a confident, bold manner, and further validates that her attraction is to a high value male that she should be sexual with.

@ you thinking a dude that looks like Tyrone Hill or Craig Mack could pull females by having "game"...

 

[Rozay Oro]

Mouthpiece, boldness, humor and a non-chalant attitude >>

 

[Clayton Endicott]

That PUA is cac shyt. Spend money to learn how to spit corny ass game, then shoot up a mall cuz you can't get p*ssy brehs
I got no game, it's just some bytches understand my story

 

[1 other person]

socrates philosophies and hypothesis
. . Always be closing. what are you? a car salesman?

 

[Sonny Bonds]

There's a 2000+ page thread on how to deal with women on The Coli and people are saying this stuff is bullshyt. Not that I'm super into it or anything, but I feel like it's the same advice about women that you'd seem anywhere else. Except that there's more terminology.

No such thing as game, either a woman is attracted to you or she's not...

What about situations where you're not the only dude trying to hook up with a chick? Like a party and 2 other guys trying to talk to 1 girl? Or what about mouthpiece, a common thing reference on this very Internet forum? A girl can be attracted to you, but if you've got no game, she'll move on real quick.

Mouthpiece, boldness, humor and a non-chalant attitude >>

I read Neil Strauss' book back in the day and this was pretty much all game was (and watching out for dudes\fatties cock blocking)

Fair enough. My only question to you at this point is just how natural do you feel when you're working these sets. Do you feel like you're totally being yourself? Or are you just going through some sort of script/playbook while interacting with these women on your set.

I thought the whole idea was that you start off mechanical and then eventually learn to joke and spit game on your own.

 

[⠝⠕⠏⠑]

It's shyt like this that makes me ask a dude "who are you?" People put on layers and layers of bullshyt to attract and impress others but "who are you?"

Aside from pick up lines and gender bullshyt, do you know how repulsive this shyt is to a 100% real woman? To someone who might be actually interested in getting to know u?

shyt is exhausting and clit shriveling...
If it works for you then do it. But I can smell artifice and discomfort in a man from a mile away. There's a general dislike for women and disdain that you just can't cover up. PUA won't help this. To be honest you can tell these types even from the way they post online.
Interact more with the opposite sex instead of wasting time being mechanical.

 

[The Burger King]

I don't indulge in this behavior never needed cac tactics to talk to girls.

Who is that bad bytch in your avi?

 

[Killigraphy]

So basically you're playing a role

We all plays roles, I see what you're getting at, as its been asked, and addressed plenty of times. We can't sit here and act like the first time you meet a stranger you're 100% transparent and honest about everything, that would be asinine...and a lie.

and the role you're specifically playing is the man that you think the chick wants

I'm myself, whatever that means, if you mean am I acting like Don Juan De La Nooch? no, I'm not hammy in my performances, nor do I accept that anyone is 100% themselves at all times, neither did Fraud or Jung.

I was gonna break down this part until I realized you sound like every single pick up artist with a youtube channel. this is probably the type of meandering cliche mess you find in their books and videos. . Always be closing. what are you? a car salesman? you trying to pickup some new clients?


you're a carbon copy at this point which to me means that you haven't mastered yourself like you think you have.

No one has ever mastered themselves, never said it was about that anyway, so lets focus less on that red herring...This is about self confidence, a two part process wherein you not only better your social interactions and deal with your fears and anxiety, the other half is attracting women. I'm with you if you actually want to discuss ideas, and I can understand where you're coming from, but this is older than me, the Marquie de Sade pretty much wrote about it when he wasn't drawing pornographic images on anything he could leave a mark on. You can bash it all you want, that doesn't mean the system or a system entirely different hasn't been mapped for social interactions already.

 

[SeveroDrgnfli]

The game is to be sold not told. BTW if you think girls aren't onto this because they can read and they talk to each other you're wylin.

All I'll tell you is this: most guys have their own game. It's like sports. There are different styles of play.

 

[Adidacs]

sure, you can get p*ssy without game

or even be a natural, with game you've always had

but even the most gifted athletes put in work and practice, with techniques and philosophies garnered from others with more experience

the ones who don't still end up fine, but playing in china like michael beasley

y'all can be marbury

imma be curry but my ayesha coordinates threesomes

y'all can be "we don't take advice from another man where i'm from" brehs "real nikkas don't delve deep into the inner workings of man to woman interaction and society" and kick it with your one or two girls that have an acquisition cost of >$200 and a month or longer

i'll be deciding which dimes to match up for the night and which ones to offer another 2 week contract to

or maybe i want something new and exciting, so i hit up the strip just to be a life of the party ass nikka and have hoes choose

or maybe i'm at the gym and see a lil mix breed in pink with spanish/european flare so i hook her like a salmon out the waters of northern spain

but nah, you're all right... pickup is snake oil bullshyt

black pickup brehs i fukk with, btw:

tayisepic
tony solo
justin wayne
rsdmadison

 

[Killigraphy]

It's shyt like this that makes me ask a dude "who are you?" People put on layers and layers of bullshyt to attract and impress others but "who are you?"

Aside from pick up lines and gender bullshyt, do you know how repulsive this shyt is to a 100% real woman? To someone who might be actually interested in getting to know u?

shyt is exhausting and clit shriveling...
If it works for you then do it. But I can smell artifice and discomfort in a man from a mile away. There's a general dislike for women and disdain that you just can't cover up. PUA won't help this. To be honest you can tell these types even from the way they post online.
Interact more with the opposite sex instead of wasting time being mechanical.

Welcome to the human condition, everyone is lying, whether it be small or big, the truth is, when meeting a complete stranger, you're never going to open up 100%, hell, I'd be surprised if anyone went in 50, that's just ridiculous. We already come into social interactions with an overinflated ego, a ridiculous and myopic sense of self, and very little knowledge of who we really are. That's fine, that much can be read about. No one cares about "who you are" because genetically women have been programmed to like a certain type of man, society further removes the introspection with materialistic gains.

The mechanical, leads to the freestyle, Bruce Lee had to learn Kung Fu, before he found out how impractical it works, and how to further develop into something greater. Be formless and all that, but first learn how to throw a punch.