Liberals catching feelings over Clarence Thomas

[Drake is God]

Why do you support those 2 positions? Please be detailed and use historical and current examples too. I find that most cacs support things they have no idea about based solely on partisanship and hatred for anything that is anti-white domination or hurts their capitalist monopoly greed. So explain please.

Yes I am a black person, so I don't why you keep referring to me as a cac. But Here's the reason why i support privatization and why I am against affirmative action. The federal government would like to believe that they are creating jobs for the purpose of the people, but what they're really doing is increasing government power and limiting the power of companies who create real wealth and real jobs. If you believe that the president or congress should have the power to create private-sector jobs you're the uninformed one. Capitalism is freedom in its purest form, and it has very little to do with monopoly or greed; it's about a capitalist realizing that he must create value for others, and by doing so many people benefit from his financial objectives. you seem to believe that pursing economic freedom is "bad", but the fact of the matter is that there is no such thing as the common good, because what you consider to be good for you may be bad for me, and vice versa. A privatize business should have to dictate what they should pay employees, and if the employee feels that the pay is not up to his standards he has the right to leave at any time, and find a business that fits his needs.

Affirmative action does more harm than good because people use it as way to discredit black people from getting their accomplishments recognized. Thomas Sowell says that "Liberals have pushed affirmative action, supposedly for the benefit of blacks and other minorities. But two recent factual studies show that affirmative action in college admissions has led to black students with every qualification for success being artificially turned into failures by being mismatched with colleges for the sake of racial body count."

He also drops this gem right here "One of the most polarizing and counterproductive liberal crusades of the 20th century has been the decades-long busing crusade to send black children to predominantly white schools. The idea behind this goes back to the pronouncement by Chief Justice Earl Warren that “separate educational facilities are inherently unequal.”Yet within walking distance of the Supreme Court where this pronouncement was made was an all-black high school that had scored higher than two-thirds of the city’s white high schools taking the same test — way back in 1899!"

The reason you are for affirmative action is because you want to surround yourself with whites, you want to go their schools, live in their neighborhoods, date their women(pawgs anyone?) that's the real reason you're so found of liberalism and affirmative action; also you have some nerve mentioning hatred when you and your ilk have great contempt for black women I rather not pull 400 threads of black women bashing by you and your brehs. Your masculinity has been to damaged due to white supremacy, so now you feel that you in order for you to feel that you are a "man" you have to demonstrate misogyny against black women.[DOUBLEPOST=1397427125][/DOUBLEPOST]

Exactly, @itsKhari , I'm not gonna call you names or anything, I hope you're not a black person who opposes Affirmative action, but that's besides the point. Please have some solid reasoning for these statements

I'm black.

 

[L&HH]

Yes I am a black person, so I don't why you keep referring to me as a cac. But Here's your explanation. The federal government would like to believe that they are creating jobs for the purpose of the people, but what they're really doing is increasing government power and limiting the power of companies who create real wealth and real jobs. If you believe that the president or congress should have the power to create private-sector jobs you're the uninformed one. Capitalism is freedom in its purest form, and it has very little to do with monopoly or greed; it's about a capitalist realizing that he must create value for others, and by doing so many people benefit from his financial objectives. you seem to believe that pursing economic freedom is "bad", but the fact of the matter is that there is no such thing as the common good, because what you consider to be good for you may be bad for me, and vice versa. A privatize business should have to dictate what they should pay employees, and if the employee feels that the pay is not up to his standards he has the right to leave at any time, and find a business that fits his needs.

.

To the first bolded:


To the last bolded:

Revealed: Apple and Google’s wage-fixing cartel involved dozens more companies, over one million employees | PandoDaily

 

[Drake is God]

To the first bolded:


To the last bolded:

Revealed: Apple and Google’s wage-fixing cartel involved dozens more companies, over one million employees | PandoDaily

I don't see the problem it should be up the the company to decide wages; you have to respect ownership rights, and if you don't you're violating the Constitution.

No one-- especially a politician or government bureaucrat has the right to force an employer to pay any specific wage. A business is an extension of the owner's life, and no one has a right to interfere with another individual's life. A prospective employee cannot be forced to take a job with any company whose pay or working conditions are not satisfactory to him he can leave at any time without a reason, or notice.


Robert ringer says that If someone chooses to work at walmart, that by itself is proof that he believes that it affords him the best opportunity to be adequately compensated for his skills, his experience, and his efforts. An employer doesn't ask a job applicant to present a list of his job requirements when he submits his application. Further, since an unhappy employee is free, he can apply for another job anywhere he chooses. No permission needed. On the other hand, if he chooses to stay in his present employment situation, he is making a clear statement that he believes it’s the best position he can hope to obtain at that particular time. If this were not true, he would be insane, or perhaps masochistic, to remain in his present job.

 

[NYSTATEOFMIND]

I actually study law and it seems that he opposes Affirmative Action in General. How can someone who GREW UP during integration and actually LIVED through the struggles that blacks had to go through just to achieve EQUALITY oppose Affirmative Action?

Easy...he has the crabs in a bucket mentality...He got in the door..now he slams it shut behind him

#teamnocompetition

 

[kp404]

To the first bolded:


To the last bolded:

Revealed: Apple and Google’s wage-fixing cartel involved dozens more companies, over one million employees | PandoDaily

Easy...he has the crabs in a bucket mentality...He got in the door..now he slams it shut behind him

#teamnocompetition

@itsKhari what's your response to these and do you feel that racial oppression and capitalism have no adverse effects on black, brown, red, and yellow people? In other words, are we past racism in America and what evidence do you have that we are? if you are anti-affirmative action, you must be post-racial.

 

[Im Kemet Rocky & I like penis]

negged bytch

 

[NYSTATEOFMIND]

@itsKhari what's your response to these and do you feel that racial oppression and capitalism have no adverse effects on black, brown, red, and yellow people? In other words, are we past racism in America and what evidence do you have that we are? if you are anti-affirmative action, you must be post-racial.

As long as there are differences among humans there will always be discrimination whether its racism, sexism ageism etc. Society can improve but we will never be past it, I don't think its feasible
Clearly capitalism has had devasting affects on people of color.Look at many cities in the midwest. NATO+ capitalism have shipped millions of jobs that blacks/latinos were occupying and allowing them to provide for themselves and their families.

Racial oppression isn't as overt as it once was, its more systematic then in your face

 

[kp404]

As long as there are differences among humans there will always be discrimination whether its racism, sexism ageism etc. Society can improve but we will never be past it, I don't think its feasible
Clearly capitalism has had devasting affects on people of color.Look at many cities in the midwest. NATO+ capitalism have shipped millions of jobs that blacks/latinos were occupying and allowing them to provide for themselves and their families.

Racial oppression isn't as overt as it once was, its more systematic then in your face

I agree, but OP is clearly arguing that America is post-racial, otherwise he/she/it would have common sense to know that affirmative action is needed (which it is) because racial oppression is entrenched everywhere in our society; also if @itsKhari thinks that why blacks want affirmative action is to be around whites, he/she/it has never read the history of affirmative action or why its important...but they are a capitalist pushing for blacks to not have rights recognized and defends Clarence Thomas, so why am I not surprised? Black republicans are ridiculously against their own kind its sickening

 

[NYSTATEOFMIND]

I agree, but OP is clearly arguing that America is post-racial, otherwise he/she/it would have common sense to know that affirmative action is needed (which it is) because racial oppression is entrenched everywhere in our society; also if @itsKhari thinks that why blacks want affirmative action is to be around whites, he/she/it has never read the history of affirmative action or why its important...but they are a capitalist pushing for blacks to not have rights recognized and defends Clarence Thomas, so why am I not surprised? Black republicans are ridiculously against their own kind its sickening

Well, I will disagree slightly- I don't think all Black conservatives are against the black agenda. I think a large % of them are lost
But I have listened to a few that made sense as they talk about fiscal responsibility ( regarding personal and the country) the need for the improving education in the hood and trying to encourage our youth to get more involved in math/science.

I think the issue with many black conservatives are many have no tangible connection to the hood so even if they are conservative-their agenda has nothing to do with helping the black community at large
Some of the Black conservatives I have heard from actually were from the hood or have family there so they still have some desire to help

 

[kp404]

Well, I will disagree slightly- I don't think all Black conservatives are against the black agenda. I think a large % of them are lost
But I have listened to a few that made sense as they talk about fiscal responsibility ( regarding personal and the country) the need for the improving education in the hood and trying to encourage our youth to get more involved in math/science.

I think the issue with many black conservatives are many have no tangible connection to the hood so even if they are conservative-their agenda has nothing to do with helping the black community at large
Some of the Black conservatives I have heard from actually were from the hood or have family there so they still have some desire to help

yea they are exceptions to the rule, but the overall platform for black neo conservatives is anti-black working and poor

 

[kermit da hustla]

this is the one thing i hate about the left, when they feel they are right they can be so vicious and dirty, completely forgetting that what they are doing is the same shyt they are always crying about.
Uncle Thomas? Really?

man, fukkouttahere. clarence thomas is a terrible human being and obviously hates black people and - by extension - himself. you can see his self-hate in his eyes.

 

[NYSTATEOFMIND]

yea they are exceptions to the rule, but the overall platform for black neo conservatives is anti-black working and poor

The republican party as a whole is so retarded its almost laughable.That is not to say Dems have their shyt together but the pubes

Politically speaking, if i were a political party leader, seeing where unemployment is and the rise in the working poor. The last thing I would do is be anti-poor/anti-working class

There are more poor/middle class people than wealthy and very well of ( in numbers) if your agenda is anti poor/anti-working class....ummm..how do you expect to win the highest office?

 

[kp404]

The republican party as a whole is so retarded its almost laughable.That is not to say Dems have their shyt together but the pubes

Politically speaking, if i were a political party leader, seeing where unemployment is and the rise in the working poor. The last thing I would do is be anti-poor/anti-working class

There are more poor/middle class people than wealthy and very well of ( in numbers) if your agenda is anti poor/anti-working class....ummm..how do you expect to win the highest office?

To be honest brother, the biggest problem with American politics is the 2 party system. Neither party gives a flying fukk about the majority of America, only the ones with the deepest pockets. The dems are ridiculous too, but they are less ridiculous than the repubs

 

[Drake is God]

@itsKhari what's your response to these and do you feel that racial oppression and capitalism have no adverse effects on black, brown, red, and yellow people? In other words, are we past racism in America and what evidence do you have that we are? if you are anti-affirmative action, you must be post-racial.

I've responded to that walmart video in my last post. America still suffers from institutionalized racism, but Capitalism has created far more opportunity for minorities than any other system.

 

[Detroit Wave]

I actually study law and it seems that he opposes Affirmative Action in General. How can someone who GREW UP during integration and actually LIVED through the struggles that blacks had to go through just to achieve EQUALITY oppose Affirmative Action?

yea op lost and is indeed a fakkit