Life After "Life After Death". What Biggie had planned for the future.....

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    This week on March 25th marks the 17th Anniversary of the Iconic Diamond Selling Grammy Nominated Classic Album "Life After Death". Biggie only had 4 1/2 Years to make his impact during that time he accomplished a lot. This includes releasing 2 LP's one being a double and Executive Producing 3 LP's as well partnering with Lance Un Rivera and forming a side label outside of Bad Boy.

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    Late 92 - Early 97

    *Label - Undes/Untertainment/Big Beat/Atlantic
    *50+ Collaborations
    *Ready To Die (Writer, Producer) 94'
    *Junior Mafia - Conspiracy (Writer, Producer, Executive Producer, 4 features) 95'
    *Lil Kim - Hard Core (Writer, Producer, Executive Producer, 5 features) 96'
    *Life After Death (Double LP, Producer, Writer) 97'
    *Puffy - No Way Out (Writer, Executive Producer, 4 features) 97'


    Some speculate wither Biggie would fall off or not, well that's a "What If". This thread shows what Biggie had Planned after he released his 2nd LP. This information is based on interviews by people in Biggie's circle during the time.

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    "With the Kiss, Pinero, Sheek Louch, Black Rob Join the Mob, There ain't no replacing him, N!ggas step up we just (Mace'in)Ma$e em them placin them in funerals the criminals turn to viles, The Brick City, nobody come off like P. Diddy" - Biggie "Victory"

    97-98' The Life After Death/Bad Boy Tour: Biggie died promoting "Life After Death" and didn't get a chance to perform a single song from the album. He only completed 1 music video at the time of his death for "Hypnotize". Puffy and Biggie were mapping out a world tour once his Leg got better that was to start later in 97. After Big's death Puff would just went on a Bad Boy Tour that featured Jay Z and Busta Rhymes. Biggie originally had 6 singles planned for "Life After Death".

    "Hypnotize, Mo Money Mo Problems and Sky's the Limit" was to be phase 1 of the singles which Puffy completed. Phase 2 was going to be "I Love the Dough" with Jay Z to introduce The Commission, "F@ckin You Tonight" with R. Kelly and "Notorious Thugs" with Bone Thugs. Big was also scheduled to be on Ma$e LP, The Lox LP as well as Black Rob's debut as well as Bad Boy's RnB acts Carl Thomas debut and Faith, Total, and 112 2nd LP's.

    "112" would name their 2nd LP, "Room 112" after Biggie's Lyrics on their Hit song "Only You". Faith, Carl Thomas and Total used Biggie samples on their LP's also. The Lox and Ma$e used Biggie rhymes on their LP's as well as Black Rob. "Victory" would be the last song Biggie would record before his death. The single was a success on the charts and went Gold. It was also the most expensive rap video of all time. Rock Legends "Nine Inch Nails" would remix the song. Both Biggie and Puffy made history becoming the 1st rappers to chart 4 singles inside the Top 2 of the Hot 100 in the same year.

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    98' - The Commission Crew LP - In 1996 Biggie had already started to put the stages together for his Crew "The Commission". Though Junior M.A.F.I.A. was always family, Big had no intimidate plans for a follow up to "Conspiracy" LP, this album was to compete with NaS, Foxy and AZ's "The Firm" LP. He did 3 songs with Jay Z before his death and even appeared in 2 of Jay's earlier videos. The group was to feature Jay Z, Puffy, Lil Cease and Charli Baltimore and was to have features from Bad Boy, Rocafella and Undes artist including Bleek, Beans, Cam'ron, Lil' Kim, Ma$e, The Lox and Black Rob. KanYe was in the picture at this time as he was working under D.Dot one of Biggie's longtime producers. Just Blaze also knew Dame at this point so it wouldn't be unreasonable to say both could of worked on the album.

    Biggie would mention the crew on the songs "What's Beef" and "Victory". Due to his death the group never came out but Jay Z would use Bad Boy to create his 2nd LP "Vol 1: In My Lifetime" which was dedicated to Biggie and became Jay Z 1st platinum LP. Jay made a tribute song to Biggie called "The City Is Mine" and he has paid homage to Biggie on every album starting with Vol 1. He has used Biggie's rhymes or samples on all of his albums except "Reasonable Doubt" which Biggie was featured on "Brooklyn's Finest". He featured on Biggie's "Duets" album on a remix of the unreleased track "Whatcu Want" using "The Commission" title. There are rumors Jay Z has 4 to 5 Unreleased Biggie records including "Brooklyn Finest II"

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    98' - Cam'ron's Debut - Cam'ron was in a group called "Children of the Corn" with Ma$e and Big L. Before his death Ma$e brought Cam'ron to Biggie to spit a verse. Biggie thought Cam was so dope he set up the deal to have him signed to his Label "Undes/Untertainment" with Lance Un Rivera. Cam'ron did some writing on Lil Kim's LP. Biggie was going to be the Executive Producer on the album. With his passing Lance "Un" took over Producer duties and Cam'ron released the LP "Confessions of Fire" in 98 and sampled Biggie on the song "Death". The album was a success going Gold.

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    99' - Charli Baltimore Debut - With Lil Kim already a success, Biggie moved on to now bring out his new chick Charli Baltimore which was based off the movie "Long Kiss Goodnight" which Biggie named one of his songs. She was featured as Big's mistress in the "Get Money" video. He was to Executive Produce and write on her debut. The project was in it's early stages at Big's death but he was to introduce her on "The Commission" LP. She would complete the LP in 99 with Lance "Un" Rivera as Executive Producer,

    Though a single was released, the album ended up being shelved and only released promotional. It was called "Cold as Ice" and featured a lot of big time collaborations including Mobb Deep, Cam'ron, Wyclef, Big Pun and Da Brat. There also production from DJ Premier, Havoc, RZA and Teddy Reily. The single "Stand Up" with Ghostface was released and ended up being a Top 10 hit on the Rap charts. Charli would sample Biggie on the song "Everybody Wanna Know".

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    99' - Lil Cease Debut - Biggie decided he would start to push Lil' Cease and Lil' Kim from the group for Solo projects. Kim's debut was already out before his death and he was mapping out Cease debut during that time which he would Executive Produce and write on some tracks. Biggie put Cease on Lil Kim's Classic Hit single "Crush on You" as his breakout song before his solo album.

    Cease stated that Biggie called his debut "Puppy Love" as it would appeal to females but still have that hard edge. With the help of Puffy and the Hitmen Production Team along with Big features from Jay Z and Busta Rhymes. Cease would later complete the album called "The Wonderful World of Cease Leo" which is based off the nickname Big gave him for The Commission. The album sample Biggie on a few tracks as well as having a tribute song. The album ended up doing pretty well selling 260,000 copies and Had the hit single "Play Around" with Lil Kim and Joe Hooker.

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    99'/00' - Lil Kim's 2nd LP - With the success of "Hard Core", Big was already planning Lil Kim's 2nd LP to come out in 99. She was featured on the "Life After Death" Song "Another" and she was going to feature on The Commission LP also. With his death the album was pushed back to 2000 and later became "The Notorious K.I.M."

    Puffy along with Biggie were Executive Producers. The album featured Guest from Redman, Junior Mafia, Sisqo and Puffy himself. It also had production from The Hitmen and a young KanYe West Biggie was sampled him on several tracks as well as made a tribute song. The album gave Lil Kim her 2nd Platinum album and sold over 3 Million Copies worldwide.

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    00' - Biggie 3rd LP "Born Again (Triple LP) - Biggie 3rd album was to a be Triple LP featuring all the Top Producers and his Bad Boy Family as well as some of his other favorite artist. It was in the early stages before his death but he originally wanted it to be called "The Black Album" and was to have no promotion or videos.He later changed that to "Born Again" to fit the theme of his 1st two albums. At the time of his death there were reports of Biggie having all 3 disc already mapped out though nothing was recorded.

    D.Dot confirmed the title and stated Biggie said that his 3rd album he was going to deal with more political and social subject matter. Puffy would later release a single LP in 99, Biggie had no input on the album. "Born Again" featured several of unreleased Biggie verses during his career. The tracks "Dead Wrong" and "Notorious" ended up becoming the most popular songs from the album. The album debut at #1 and went Multi-Platinum. It also holds the distinction of being the last #1 album on the Billboard Charts in the 20th Century.

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    Clothing Line "Brooklyn Mint" 97' - Biggie had already started the process of releasing his Clothing line called "Brooklyn Mint" before his death. He even recorded a song for the up and coming commercial spot called "Jeans and Sneakers". Black Rob would later add a verse to the song. With the help of Jay Z, Voletta Wallace was able to later release a limited run of Brooklyn Mint that had Biggie's image on shirts and jeans.




    Pepsi Commercial Deal 97 - In late 96 Pepsi did a deal that would have Biggie market and release a commercial for Pepsi. The deal was worth a reported 6 figures. Biggie even completed a song for the commercial. Sadly due to a Legal case Pepsi voided the deal but the song later leaked after Big's death. Biggie was already getting endorsements at that time and even did a "St Ides"Commercial over the "New York, New York" beat before Dogg Pound rapped over it:






    Pop Crossover Collabo's - Biggie collaborated with all types of artist but the Pop world was really feeling him. 1 Year after his debut he appeared on Michael Jackson's "HIStory" album on "This Time Around". Rumors are Madonna, Mariah and Whitney Houston all reached out to work with Biggie. Even Rock acts "Nine Inch Nails" and "Korn" wanted Biggie verses on songs.

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    High Fashion - Biggie was getting a lot of love from the High Fashion industry for all his shoutouts on records. Versace as well as DKNY, Coogi, Bape all reached out to Biggie to sponsor clothing for them. Biggie artist Lil Kim would go on to become Huge in the High Fashion world after his death.

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    Big Poppa Restaurants 97' - Biggie was in the early stages of opening a chain of restaurants in New York called "Big Poppa's" which main feature would be Chicken and Hamburgers.

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    Movies/TV - Biggie already got on the small screen appearing in "Martin" and "New York Undercover" as well as the documentaries, "The Show" and "Rhyme and Reason". Before his death his Agent got calls from Christopher Walken and Robert Deniro for Biggie to appear in projects. Biggie was also said to be working on a screenplay before his death.

    12 Years later a major Hollywood Biopic "Notorious" was released about his life and would go on to make over 40 Million Worldwide and an additional 25 Million in DVD Sales. The Soundtrack would feature his demo tape and Legendary Film Composer Danny Elfman did the score for the film. His son Christopher Wallace Junior would follow in his dad's footsteps acting in the film "Notorious" as well as the Will Farrell film "Everything Must Go".




    So based on this I don't see how Biggie was going to fall off anytime soon. You have to factor in Biggie was cool with The Ruff Ryders so he could of been working with Swizz and DMX who's debut featured Faith, The Lox, Ma$e so X was very cool with Bad Boy. He was cool with Roc a Fella so he could of been working with KanYe and Just Blaze, as well as probably Bleek and Beans. He was cool with Missy and Aaliyah so he could of been working with Timbaland. Puffy was cool with The Neptunes so Biggie could of been working with them. Big was very cool with CNN and Havoc of Mobb Deep. Also a majority of Wu Tang had love for Biggie so he would of still been working with them.

    Biggie was cool with Fat Joe so that's the Terror Sqaud and Big Pun. He was also cool with Irv Gotti so Ja rule would of been there. By putting Cam'ron on the Dipset would of been affiliated with Biggie. J Dilla did a beat for Big so Biggie very well could of been working with The Soulquarians. He was cool with JD and So so Def so he would of been working with the South for sure. Then you had his own team of Ma$e, The Lox, Black Rob and a ton of RnB acts. Biggie was going to be in the forefront of a huge East coast movement that would of had the game on lock for many years.
     
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    Good read:obama:
     
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    New York rap in the mid 2000s could've been VERY different if BIG was still alive
     
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    If all this could have gone as planned, then he was truly too much for this world:lawd:. I wonder what Big Poppa's woulda been like :lupe: I'm sure it would start off like a chicken shack then start looking like a 5 Guys type with mad options. You know his fans woulda been:krs:just to see if he gonna drop by one of the restaurants.
     
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    Videos for "Notorious Thugs, I love the Dough and F*ckin U Tonite" would of shut the game down. R. Kelly said Biggie called him and gave him a few concepts for the video. Biggie and R. Kelly had a great relationship, many people slept on their collaboration before "F*cukin U Tonite" which was the Classic joint "Be Happy" which has the same sample as Faith's "You Use to Love Me". Jay and Biggie in a video for "I love the Dough" would of been dope. Biggie and Jay were only in 2 videos together. "Ain't No N!gga and Dead Presidents", he basically was the biggest star in Jay's 1st two major videos. The world wasn't ready for a "Notorious Thugs" video. Again those haters out west really robbed Hip Hop. The Commission LP was shaping to be GOAT STATUS.

     
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    "...and if you dont like this rhyme then bring yo big bad ass to California, cuz we aint hard to find" :wow:

    On the real tho im not sure how his career woulda went. nikkaz sayiin he woulda went full shiny suit with the direction he was heading, but at the same time his verses were getting much better than that RTD shyt. Maybe commercial shyt woulda stayed potent instead of that bs we get today. Maybe Jay woulda stayed on his RD steez... who knows.

    All I know is son shoulda made better decisions in life cuz he made a string of bad decisions that got him hit up.
     
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    As far as Big Commercial sound. It was about balance. For ever "Mo Money' or "hypnotize" he had "What's Beef" or "10 Crack Commandments". Sure the "Hypnotize" Video was commercial but so was the "Big Poppa Video". Biggie would of never went 100% shiny suit. That was Puffy without Biggie being there to bring him back to the streets. Big again was about balance so yes he would of had the club/dance records but he would always have the street/hard records to match. That's what separated Big from his peers. He could do a club record and not lose street credibility. NaS on "It Was Written" was criticized heavily and he only did a few club records. Big wasn't as criticized cause he gave fans those clubs records from jump so they weren't as turned off by 'Hypnotize" and "Mo Money, Mo Problems'.
     
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    Bookmarked for future references
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    But club =/= commercial. Big Poppa and One More Chance were club shyt without being shiny suit. There was def some shiny suit on LAD, but not enough for me to trip. The terrible songs on LAD were Another and Nasty Boy. But looking what Sean c00ns did with the LOX I can see BI going that way.

    The reason naS got hate for IWW is because his fans are dumb. Those tracks were some of his absolute best and clearly his best album.
     
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    NY rap TODAY would still be different.

    Im sure Jay's career would have been different
     
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    It's crazy when you sit back and realize Biggie never got to perform any of those LAD songs:sadbron:
     
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    He performed LKGN on LA radio... got clapped for it though. :manny:
     
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    He was only 24 :to:
     

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