"Lil Wayne & Jay-Z Aint Hot" - DMC Droppin That Ether

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

get out my thread dog.

peace out.

meh, this was type-harsh.

@Big Skilly Films, I apologize for that.

but dam, you were working my nerves. I have a short fuse for people that insist on arguing when they know they have no clue what theyre talking about.

but again, that was uncalled for, so I apologize from the bottom of my heart. no homo.

 

[Big Skilly Films]

meh, this was type-harsh.

@Big Skilly Films, I apologize for that.

but dam, you were working my nerves. I have a short fuse for people that insist on arguing when they know they have no clue what theyre talking about.

but again, that was uncalled for, so I apologize from the bottom of my heart. no homo.

It's all good I wasn't mad at all but I do know what I'm talking about though we don't have to argue but we can discuss the topic...

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

It's all good I wasn't mad at all but I do know what I'm talking about though we don't have to argue but we can discuss the topic...

its all good.

but dog, you dropped 2 outrageous posts back-to-back. jumped eras and the whole 9 yards.....then you were still pushing with a 3rd post. it was just .

 

[Big Skilly Films]

its all good.

but dog, you dropped 2 outrageous posts back-to-back. jumped eras and the whole 9 yards.....then you were still pushing with a 3rd post. it was just .

But what I said was true...run Dmc was pushing that they were the kings of rock...Same shyt he saying abou jay & Wayne run Dmc did it too...and real talk hip hop heads always thought run Dmc was type corny...back then if you sold out it was frowned upon.,,and run Dmc were top 5 sell outs dead or alive..,

 

[Art Barr]

Was this how Reasonable Doubt managed to sell 500k without a major label in a few months? Cause Jay-z's crack brainwashed people?
Radio plays Pitbull and Flo-Rida all the time, it's not like kids are calling them goats.
It's not like anyone has been calling Wayne's shyt for the past 4 years classic? But he's been selling mad records..
C4 did a million first week and all of hiphop called it average. #1 singles, still called it average.


Some old heads make it hard to respect them, obviously you'll always respect who they were and what they've done but it's often hard to respect who they are and what they are doing.

RUN-DMC was the first hiphop group to take advantage of major labels making you hot, so I don't know why he's compaining. They were the first working with rock producers, collaborating with brands, MTV, "white magazine" features and all that commercial shyt. And their main people Lyor Cohen and Russell Simmons are the ones that created this whole commercial hiphop system.

sugar hill created the commercial mainstream ideals, of the rap industry.
which is why a group like run dmc is important.
as they helped usher in the newschool way of thought.
plus, added onto the mainstream permeation that beatstreet built with crush groove.
run dmc, never did anything that was culturally questionable.
their oversaturation on mtv garnered them competition and other artists who challenged their dominance in ultra, to bdp.
yet, run dmc never did anything culturally that was on bullshyt, or fakin jax.

lyor and Russell, definitely bought to much into the capitalistic side.
plus, lost touch with the culture in their business practices.
which is why they both are not consistently relevant in the here and now.
plus, I could say they are both the three way split, of the barry gordy of rap.
when, you take the original witch who owned sugarhill, and them two together.
yet, run dmc as a group and collective did no wrong culturally, ever.



art barr

 

[Harry B]

sugar hill created the commercial mainstream ideals, of the rap industry.
which is why a group like run dmc is important.
as they helped usher in the newschool way of thought.
plus, added onto the mainstream permeation that beatstreet built with crush groove.
run dmc, never did anything that was culturally questionable.
their oversaturation on mtv garnered them competition and other artists who challenged their dominance in ultra, to bdp.
yet, run dmc never did anything culturally that was on bullshyt, or fakin jax.

lyor and Russell, definitely bought to much into the capitalistic side.
plus, lost touch with the culture in their business practices.
which is why they both are not consistently relevant in the here and now.
plus, I could say they are both the three way split, of the barry gordy of rap.
when, you take the original witch who owned sugarhill, and them two together.
yet, run dmc as a group and collective did no wrong culturally, ever.



art barr

When I say they made it commercial, I'm talking about real hiphop. Not that nearly straight pop shyt.
But basically I'm not talking about one hit wonders etc, I'm talking about an artist being hot, successful albums, platinum albums, high charting albums, pop radio airtime, TV etc .. I can't claim to remember shyt cause i wasn't born.
However from what I've read Rundmc were the first group that blew up on a major label..

Perhaps Sugar Hill didn't count since they weren't signed to a major label.
Anyhow The Fat Boys and all those dudes were doing aight as well, but it was never the same after Run Dmc.

And I'm not saying any of the shyt they did was negative, it was all positive. Which is why I don't understand why he would complain. He said himself that they took the ultra pop and the ultra street and mashed it up.

 

[Art Barr]

When I say they made it commercial, I'm talking about real hiphop. Not that nearly straight pop shyt.
But basically I'm not talking about one hit wonders etc, I'm talking about an artist being hot, successful albums, platinum albums, high charting albums, pop radio airtime, TV etc .. I can't claim to remember shyt cause i wasn't born.
However from what I've read Rundmc were the first group that blew up on a major label..

Perhaps Sugar Hill didn't count since they weren't signed to a major label.
Anyhow The Fat Boys and all those dudes were doing aight as well, but it was never the same after Run Dmc.

And I'm not saying any of the shyt they did was negative, it was all positive. Which is why I don't understand why he would complain. He said himself that they took the ultra pop and the ultra street and mashed it up.

sugar hill was a major label,..that started out indy.
it created a monopoly, and the degradation sugarhill caused has been re-instituted into the newschool way of thought.
a way of thought,..that was ushered in to defeat the evil non-culturally enriched practices of sugarhill.
dmc, is talembout payola.
when rap, permeated from actual high quality records on the radio, if they were spun.
all the records we hear on the radio now.
are all payola and harken back to the days when the mob controlled publishing, and the music industry.

hiphop and rap as a business had a cultural connection that was to ensure this never occurred in the same vein it poisoned:
rock
blues
rnb
jazz
pop

yet, it still happened because like dmc said....
you are being brainwashed by payola.





art barr

 

[Blackking]

DMC is on-point.

newer fans that dont know any better will brush it off as just hating. but in reality, DMC didn't say anything that I dont already hear being said everyday. hes just one of the 1st people with a real voice to say it.

lol, I'm not sure about the real voice part.

 

[Harry B]

sugar hill was a major label,..that started out indy.
it created a monopoly, and the degradation sugarhill caused has been re-instituted into the newschool way of thought.
a way of thought,..that was ushered in to defeat the evil non-culturally enriched practices of sugarhill.
dmc, is talembout payola.
when rap, permeated from actual high quality records on the radio, if they were spun.
all the records we hear on the radio now.
are all payola and harken back to the days when the mob controlled publishing, and the music industry.

hiphop and rap as a business had a cultural connection that was to ensure this never occurred in the same vein it poisoned:
rock
blues
rnb
jazz
pop

yet, it still happened because like dmc said....
you are being brainwashed by payola.





art barr

Breh it doesn't stick.
Labels controlled the radio in the 80s.

Sugar Hill Gang had a monster hit and were not played on "white radio" all over the nation until the song was top 40 and even then it got more play in other nations, Run Dmc were signed to Arista and got on white TV.

And Lil Wayne became known as the best rapper for his mixtapes, which were free.
He jumped on many singles, but his own music wasn't dominating any radio airwaves until he started falling off and people started writing him off as the best rapper out.

That's where his argument breaks down again.

Jay released RD and got NY calling him one of the illest rappers out. Then he got with a major to be able to distribute his music nationwide and got the whole nation calling him one of the illest.

I mean, it's pretty simple mathematics. He used bad examples and didn't look at himself.

If Run Dmc had gone indie and didn't have perhaps the two smartest (and now richest) hiphop businessmen basically managing them. They wouldn't have been Run Dmc. They wouldn't have been in no rock hall of fame, no first multi platinum, no first this, no first that, no famous adidas pictures, no trendsetting or defining eras.

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

But what I said was true...run Dmc was pushing that they were the kings of rock...Same shyt he saying abou jay & Wayne run Dmc did it too...and real talk hip hop heads always thought run Dmc was type corny...back then if you sold out it was frowned upon.,,and run Dmc were top 5 sell outs dead or alive..,

no. what you said was wrong. youre completely misinformed. and who are these "hip-hop heads" from that era that you speak of? you already showed in a previous post that you don't even have the eras right.

as for the bolded, no that's not what DMC is talking about.

no offense but you should read the article again, because you clearly don't understand what DMC is saying here. hes talking about payola & politics homie.

lol, I'm not sure about the real voice part.

oh snap.

that was low b.

Breh it doesn't stick.
Labels controlled the radio in the 80s.

Sugar Hill Gang had a monster hit and were not played on "white radio" all over the nation until the song was top 40 and even then it got more play in other nations, Run Dmc were signed to Arista and got on white TV.

And Lil Wayne became known as the best rapper for his mixtapes, which were free.
He jumped on many singles, but his own music wasn't dominating any radio airwaves until he started falling off and people started writing him off as the best rapper out.

That's where his argument breaks down again.

Jay released RD and got NY calling him one of the illest rappers out. Then he got with a major to be able to distribute his music nationwide and got the whole nation calling him one of the illest.

I mean, it's pretty simple mathematics. He used bad examples and didn't look at himself.

If Run Dmc had gone indie and didn't have perhaps the two smartest (and now richest) hiphop businessmen basically managing them. They wouldn't have been Run Dmc. They wouldn't have been in no rock hall of fame, no first multi platinum, no first this, no first that, no famous adidas pictures, no trendsetting or defining eras.

it does stick if you have any sort of understanding or perspective concerning the eras that youre trying to argue about.

also, profile was independent. arista didn't buy profile until 1997. the only album run dmc released thru arista was "crown royal" in 2001.

as for the sugar hill gang getting snubbed by white radio, have you ever heard of a little something called racism?

lol @ Wayne's mixtapes being free and him not being all over the airwaves. double lol @ wayne being "known as the best rapper".

and still with this jay-z chit, youre obviously still not getting the point. DMC isn't giving bad examples. you just don't get IT.