Lil Wayne’s Carter 5 Tour Is a Disaster

Pure Water

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Nah, He just became trash. Weak ass bars on top of his voice change.

Drake put just as much if not more music than Wayne and never fell off.
I don't disagree with your first point. I feel like we're saying the same thing there.

Also, Drake has fallen off album quality wise. He can produce a hit, but his albums have been very hit or miss since Views. His problem is he releases too many songs on his albums. If he'd cut down and re-sequence most of his albums since views the albums would be much better.
 

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It's time to have that discussion about Wayne and his legacy
Wayne's legacy is carried heavily by nostalgia from people who experienced his prime from 2004-2009.

During that time, Wayne was actually pretty good. Not on par with the past greats but he was very prolific while still being pretty lyrical and having a generally solid output with albums, features, and mixtapes.

Once he dropped that trash punk rock album, though, he was never the same. Wayne hasn't dropped a good album since. And the mixtape scene in the 2010's was soooo stacked with great projects that his mixtape catalog in the 2010's got overshadowed too. Even Wayne himself said 56 Nights was better than any mixtape he ever dropped. His words......not mine. C5 was a return to form but still sounded dated even in 2018. Wayne's greatest asset is features these days.

Funnily enough, when my young relatives in their teens were explaining the Drake/Kendrick beef to each other, Wayne ended up coming up in the convo and they all treated him like an afterthought like "Oh yeah. I forgot Drake used to be signed to that guy." Wayne stans used to brag about the youth f*cking with Wayne more than Jay-Z but, nowadays, both Wayne and Jay are "Unc" status to the youth in 2025. At least Jay is more respected overall as an emcee across the board.
 

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I don't disagree with your first point. I feel like we're saying the same thing there.

Also, Drake has fallen off album quality wise. He can produce a hit, but his albums have been very hit or miss since Views. His problem is he releases too many songs on his albums. If he'd cut down and re-sequence most of his albums since views the albums would be much better.
I get what you saying. Drake’s always been up & down when it came to albums imo.

But as far as a fall off Kendrick shyt aside, Drake may have dropped from a 9 to a 6-8 on the quality scale.

Wayne went from a 10 to a fuccking 2. :scust: I used to be on livemixtapes, rap radar, hiphopdx, etc. every day looking for new Wayne shyt. Now you couldn’t pay me to listen a wayne album :smh:
 

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He's an example of putting out too much music damaging your legacy. He ain't dropped a good album since Tha Carter 3 and a good project since No Ceilings. He's been washed for 16 years now.
C4 and C5 weren’t awful, I’d even say C5 > C4.

The issue is he put out so much bullshyt after that and he’s had that screechy crackhead voice since SFTW2. No Ceilings 2 was disrespectful to the first. Anyone willingly listens to Wayne in 2025 is stuck in the past cuz like you said, he’s been washed for over a decade now. :francis:
 

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Never been a Wayne fan but it’s sad to see him go out like this. That drug use is manifesting itself during his middle age and it’s depressing af to see. It’s already bad enough “the culture” don’t even respect it legacy artists. Hope he starts to atleast take care of himself.
 

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him and beige boy need each other at this point. tag album the only way either of them getting their legacies back.

can we have the talk about how Wayne manifested that 'best rapper alive' thing by just saying it repeatedly? Because in retrospect... hottest rapper 07-mid'10s? sure, maybe :yeshrug:. but best?

hell nah.
 

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Wayne may as well buy a streaming setup and just go live when he's in the studio :yeshrug:saves a ton of money vs. going in the red paying all the touring fees, people are more impressed with his freestyle ability than everything else anyway.

and he always came off like he can't really handle large crowds of people that well, hence the drug abuse. Eminem's kind of similar, both basically live in the studio and have to be forced to do all of the other things that come with being famous musicians
 

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That alone tells you why Jay moves the way he moves


Look at how all he had to deal with state property


And his first artist he singed to roc nation was j. Cole


He don’t like unreliable people around
He did become a bit of a Gandhi though but still the same Jay. Signed two definite crash outs (or was it Bleek?) Casanova and Taxstone, told them both if you fukk up, we never knew each other. No lawyers for you :mjlol:
 

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Eminem's kind of similar, both basically live in the studio and have to be forced to do all of the other things that come with being famous musicians


Word I came in here to say this as far as legacy. Wayne and Em share alot of similarities as far as careers. Crazy high's/Commercial peaks, Drug abuse, the fall off, voice change, seem to be in their own world etc. etc.
 

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You can’t be a senior statesmen in rap and be a horrible performer. Especially if you’re a “legend”, it totally ruins your legacy act aspirations as you age further.

50 Cent is a bland performer. Lil Wayne is horrible.

Difference is only one of them is still making music and touring (trying to, I guess).

Shout out to people 10 years a go who foresaw that when the popularity dies, Wayne’s legacy will look incredibly funny in the light.
 
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