Little Things in Baseball That You Don't Understand

[muzikfrk75]

1-Balks

2-Unwritten rules are the worst. I remember one time the pitcher got mad at the hitter because the hitter ran the bases too fast after hitting a home run then of course he beaned him the next time he was at bat

3-Still don't know why they are making a big deal of steroids in baseball...when...ya know...there's been cheating in baseball since the beginning of the sport

"Greenies"
Corked bats
Spitballs
Black Sox
Emery boards/sandpaper
Pine tar
Whatever that shyt is on some pitchers hats

Where is the excitement?

In September/October.

 

[Nefflum nigga]

this is specific..

but what was larussa's reasoning behind hitting the pitcher 8th?

Trying to not have the pitcher lead off the top of an inning..... I think...

 

[yseJ]

it seems like you have a problem with the "america" idea of sportsmanship and that it's not specific to baseball.

i was using football to show examples of similar unwritten rules in another sport.

but if you're against the american style of sportsmanship, then there's really not much more for me to say.

sports is played all over the world, why should I focus on american sportsmanship ?

and theres shyt in baseball that doesnt happen in any other sports. some pitchers throw at heads of players who hit a grand slam against them and showed them up. intentionally trying to hurt them

like here

2-Unwritten rules are the worst. I remember one time the pitcher got mad at the hitter because the hitter ran the bases too fast after hitting a home run then of course he beaned him the next time he was at bat

is that also an example of sportsmanship there ? boo hoo he hit a homer off you and then hustled. baseball players catch feelings way too much and have the worst egos in any sports Ive watched.

do NHL players try to hit you in the face with a puck after you score 5 goals on their team ?

 

[yseJ]

there are instances where letting your foot off the gas can come back and bite you, but in 99% of instances it does not in baseball

since you bring up that number do you have a proof of that 99% or youll admit you pulled it out of your ass ?

 

[yseJ]

and whether to take the foot off should be a question of the team WHO IS IN THE LEAD, not the team whos taking the beating.

no one asking the bytch ass loser team about their feelings. fukk their feelings. you lose, you lose. maybe losing by 75 points should motivate your ass.

oh no you hurt them little boys feelings by beating them at a job you do for a livng. maybe they can wipe their tears with millions they make

 

[yseJ]

here's a situation:

team A up on team B 8-0 in the third inning.

would team B take offense to team A stealing a base here ?
it's the third fukking inning.

I honestly do not know the answer. in any other sport pretty much in similar situation, the answer is an emphatic NO

 

[Spaceman Piff]

sports is played all over the world, why should I focus on american sportsmanship ?

and theres shyt in baseball that doesnt happen in any other sports. some pitchers throw at heads of players who hit a grand slam against them and showed them up. intentionally trying to hurt them

like here



is that also an example of sportsmanship there ? boo hoo he hit a homer off you and then hustled. baseball players catch feelings way too much are the worst in any sports Ive watched.

do NHL players try to hit you in the face with a puck after you score 5 goals on their team ?

because we're talking about baseball in america.

now you're going all over the place breh

i said most unwritten rules are about sportsmanship. you're bringing up an extremely vague example about one guy who got mad at someone running too fast.

throwing at someone's head is not an unwritten rule.

hitting someone intentionally is.. but it's usually in the middle of the back. and it's more of a statement than trying to injure someone.

are you really bringing up hockey while trying to paint baseball as a sport where players try to hurt each other? hockey's got enforcers for a reason. you think if someone is scoring 5 goals that the other team's goons aren't gonna be looking for him?

but none of this has to do with what we were talking about.

you either accept america's idea of sportsmanship or you don't. but american sportsmanship is prevalent in every american sport, obviously.

you asked about why an unwritten rule existed.. i answered.

you don't agree with the philosophy behind it. that's all.

 

[Spaceman Piff]

here's a situation:

team A up on team B 8-0 in the third inning.

would team B take offense to team A stealing a base here ?
it's the third fukking inning.

I honestly do not know the answer. in any other sport pretty much in similar situation, the answer is an emphatic NO

it's a no in baseball too.

it's the third inning. the game's not even half over.

 

[TrapHouse Rock]

since you bring up that number do you have a proof of that 99% or youll admit you pulled it out of your ass ?

name one game that you specifically remember a team up by 8-12 runs lost the game by following these 'unwritten rules' of general sportsmanship



and 99% was used as an idiom for highly improbable, you can replace 99% with very highly improbable. it doesn't change the point i was making, you're just nitpicking

 

[yseJ]

hitting someone intentionally is.. but it's usually in the middle of the back. and it's more of a statement than trying to injure someone.

hitting someone in the back is a statement after you break an unwritten rule.

you think if someone is scoring 5 goals that the other team's goons aren't gonna be looking for him?

pretty sure not. theres nothing wrong with scoring 5 goals. in no other sport is a hat trick scorer (soccer, hockey) or a 4TD scorer (football) or a 50 point scorer (basketball)considered bad sportsmanship. I dont watch much hockey nowadays, but Im pretty sure gretzky wasnt hounded by goons by going nuts in the 90s

youre right that I kinda went too far with this tho, so lets focus on obvious rules that apply to baseball only :

admiring a home run is bad, you might get beaned
hustling around the bases after hitting a homerun is bad, you might get beaned
staring down a pitcher after hitting a homerun is bad, you might get beaned
if you unintetionally hit a batter,

stealing a base when YOUR team is down by 10 runs in the 8th is bad, you might get beaned

trying to bunt is bad if the opposing pitcher has a no-hitter

 

[yseJ]

name one game that you specifically remember a team up by 8-12 runs lost the game by following these 'unwritten rules' of general sportsmanship



and 99% was used as an idiom for highly improbable, you can replace 99% with very highly improbable. it doesn't change the point i was making, you're just nitpicking

um plenty of teams lose games when up by more than 7 runs. and any of those games is tons of opportunities lost since they play station to station baseball.

and I know it was an hyperbole, but I dont like when people bring up numbers that dont really exist.

 

[yseJ]

it's a no in baseball too.

it's the third inning. the game's not even half over.

oh, awesome

so by that logic if my team is up 18-0 in the third it'd be also be ok for me to steal a base and no one would have a problem with that right ?

see what Im getting at ? the 'unwritten' rule in this case is ARBITRARILY decided by some old ethhical fartknocker, who figures how many runs are too many.

and unlike football/bball/soccer/hockey where you have a clock that makes certain scoring scenarios impossible, you have tons of plausible baseball scenarios left for the 2/3 of the remaining game

 

[TrapHouse Rock]

um plenty of teams lose games when up by more than 7 runs. and any of those games is tons of opportunities lost since they play station to station baseball.

and I know it was an hyperbole, but I dont like when people bring up numbers that dont really exist.

this could just be a difference of opinion, i think a lot of teams lose those games not because 'they aren't stealing bases' or 'being sportsmanlike' per the unwritten rules of baseball


its just you lose that natural killer edge when you're up big, it's why teams come back down 24-7 in the nfl once the 2nd half starts. or why the bulls can come back down 28 against the kings. you make mistakes cause each mistake means less when you're up big.


so these games where teams come back slowly in the later innings imo isn't because they're respecting the opponent too much but rather what just naturally happens when you're competing. when you think its sewed up, you just tryna go home


also as far as the numbers thing, im sure that number is very high 90s i just dont have time to look up how many blowouts this year teams didnt come back from (under the presumption they were playing station to station baseball up big after the 4th inning)

 

[yseJ]

this could just be a difference of opinion, i think a lot of teams lose those games not because 'they aren't stealing bases' or 'being sportsmanlike' per the unwritten rules of baseball


its just you lose that natural killer edge when you're up big, it's why teams come back down 24-7 in the nfl once the 2nd half starts. or why the bulls can come back down 28 against the kings. you make mistakes cause each mistake means less when you're up big.


so these games where teams come back slowly in the later innings imo isn't because they're respecting the opponent too much but rather what just naturally happens when you're competing. when you think its sewed up, you just tryna go home


also as far as the numbers thing, im sure that number is very high 90s i just dont have time to look up how many blowouts this year teams didnt come back from (under the presumption they were playing station to station baseball up big after the 4th inning)

nice post. we'll just have to disagree I guess.

note that I dont say the teams necessarily lose because of that, I just think its stupid to consider it unwritten rule unless its really like 99.999999999999999999999999999999% one in a billion chance of comeback happening (ie minute left in football and youre down by 3 TDs)

 

[TrapHouse Rock]

nice post. we'll just have to disagree I guess.

note that I dont say the teams necessarily lose because of that, I just think its stupid to consider it unwritten rule unless its really like 99.999999999999999999999999999999% one in a billion chance of comeback happening (ie minute left in football and youre down by 3 TDs)

yeah i can respect that, you're one of those people that the game aint over til its over and you don't want to leave anything to chance


i know a lot of people that fukk with cricket heavy, but test cricket and its rules of being proper are just nonsensical to me


i think a lot of the unwritten rules of baseball are in that same league, in an era where we see all types of crazy comebacks and shyt in sports, its strange to see this fraternity of managers and players living by some kind of code when it appears that externally all everyone cares about is wins


sidenote: i think ozzie guillen despite having up and down seasons coaching also just was more 'modern' with that shyt he talked and its why he's beloved by a lot of the younger generation and to some of the older he's not of that traditional mold