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Kids are dumb and don't know the realities of careers, even if you told them they wouldn't know. you're way on the extreme end of naivety thinking some kid with plans of being a heart surgeon is serious. do you think some 10 year old has some nuanced understanding of all medical fields and came to an educated conclusion or did he or she just read a list of salaries and picked what's at the top? I'm literally just restating my last post here. doctor, lawyer, banker, etc. these are all high paying careers for mostly passionless people. I would be wary of 17 year olds feigning interest in these fields (or maybe they're not faking but at least self-deluding) and you're cosigning a 10 year old?

It's sad as hell these days you see teens from bumfukk Kansas who just got into Harvard posting on reddit asking how they should best prepare to work at Goldman Sachs after graduating. it's not sad to you that smart kids from all backgrounds join the herd mentality of gunning for {Wall Street, Google, med school}? and you'd take it further and encourage 10 year olds to join in? these "high work ethic but zero substantial goals and interests" kids who let the internet decide their lives have wildly varying outcomes, some just burn out entirely which almost never happens to kids who really love physics or something, they always land near the top. my money's on the math geek every single time not the striver kid with plans

software you can at least do yourself in your room and see if you're really interested, you can't test your stomach for surgery until you cut people open, you can read books all day then find out that shyt's not your style, then what?

all that early tracking stuff is passe as fukk now. well off / educated families would much rather see their kids take a deep interest in math or literature than steer them early towards careers and count chickens before they hatch.

yeah ofc people don't achieve their wildest dreams, that's why you should focus on what's in front of you. Is that controversial to you that being the very best at where you're at right now is a worthier goal than dreaming about your 2nd contract in the NBA when you'll team up with Giannis or something? you're not even making substantial points against mine you're just saying ok but you can't downplay kids' dreams. do whatever you want for whoever you care about, what difference does my opinion make?
We must have had very different experiences in college breh. Maybe things have changed a lot since I was a student - but the kids I knew who came in with a plan did very well for the most part. That's what's shaped my opinion on this - the kids who I met as a freshman who told me they wanted to be doctors, lawyers, etc. and put that work in in the library and in the lab...they mostly ended up doctors and lawyers.

Maybe what you're talking about (wildly varying outcomes, burnout) happens when its a goal foisted on the kid by overbearing parents with unrealistic expectations. That I can understand 100%. But that really doesn't sound like the case with @tuckdog daughter...she sounds like the kids who I saw go on to great success because of their passion for whatever it is that they were doing from an early age.

As far as focusing on what's in front of you...that's a given, isn't it? If a high school kid came up to me and told me they wanted to be a doctor, but they were barely passing biology and chemistry...then yeah, I'm gonna be pretty dismissive. But if they're top of their class, and on top of that seem to have a genuine interest in it...why wouldn't that be a good thing?

I don't come from a well off or educated family, so I can't really speak on what those sorts of families are up to. But I'm curious - is discouraging early career focus a status symbol for them? Or is it seen as a healthier way to raise their children? Both?
 

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I gotta say........damn for 41 dude look pretty decent.....
they have some 40+ looking close to death, homeboy look full of life....
We black. Unless we go heavy on drugs or alcohol, we look young well into our 50s
 

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This nikka is out of his fukking mind and the sadest thing is that he thinks he's correct in what he's saying.

The whole "I don't do fof myself so I bought the Corvette" was one of the dumbest things I've heard in forever. Go cop a whip but cop a whip you can afford. Dude seems to have to control of everything, telling his kids what to do, keeping his wife from doing something she wants etc. Dude gonna fukk around and have his wife divorce him and his children hating him
 

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Career goals and a child's / adults ambition or drive .... As a parent , I nurture their vision based on why they made that choice... are you picking that choice based off interest and love of the field or chasing money..

When my daughter was choosing her catholic HS and I asked why you picked school yadda ya.. and her response was because the mascot's a terrier and I like terriers.. my response was no.. pick another school.. come to me with I like program xyz because I might wanna be so-and-so when I grow up...

using me for example.. theres a guy at my job... Im an 1000 times naturally gifted better engineer than him because I do this cause this is what I been doing since 6/7 years old .. I just expanded on my interests ... him.... he said.. when he left high school he looked up where jobs would be and picked engineering cause he needed to have money to live when he left the house.

@tuckdog :salute:to your daughter and keep nurturing her interests..
 
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Career goals and a child's / adults ambition or drive .... As a , I nurture their vision based on why they made that choice... are you picking that choice based off interest and love of the field or chasing money..

When my daughter was choosing her catholic HS and I asked why you picked school yadda ya.. and her response was because the mascot's a terrier and I like terriers.. my response was no.. pick another school.. come to me with I like program xyz because I might wanna be so-and-so when I grow up...

using me for example.. theres a guy at my job... Im an 1000 times naturally gifted better engineer than him because I do this cause this is what I been doing since 6/7 years old .. I just expanded on my interests ... him.... he said.. when he left high school he looked up where jobs would be and picked engineering cause he needed to have money to live when he left the house.

@tuckdog :salute:to your daughter and keep nurturing her interests..

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That’s what it’s all about breh, nurturing their interests.

My wife and I have never forced any career choices on our children, the only things we stress are faith in God, hard work, accountability, and striving for excellence in whatever you do.

My daughter did not choose to persue a career in medicine because of the amount of money she could make.

She’s brilliant, never gotten anything but A’s on any of her report cards ever and she’s been taking advanced classes the past two years.

This is her 1st year in private school, taking the hardest classes they offer, and she’s still not challenged.

She knows she could make more money in finance, business management, computer science, engineering, or politics, and she would excel in any of those fields.

We expose our children to all types of career fields and place no limits on their dreams and aspirations.

She wants to be a surgeon because she genuinely loves to help people and has a fascination with the human body and how it works.
 

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We must have had very different experiences in college breh. Maybe things have changed a lot since I was a student - but the kids I knew who came in with a plan did very well for the most part. That's what's shaped my opinion on this - the kids who I met as a freshman who told me they wanted to be doctors, lawyers, etc. and put that work in in the library and in the lab...they mostly ended up doctors and lawyers.

Maybe what you're talking about (wildly varying outcomes, burnout) happens when its a goal foisted on the kid by overbearing parents with unrealistic expectations. That I can understand 100%. But that really doesn't sound like the case with @tuckdog daughter...she sounds like the kids who I saw go on to great success because of their passion for whatever it is that they were doing from an early age.

As far as focusing on what's in front of you...that's a given, isn't it? If a high school kid came up to me and told me they wanted to be a doctor, but they were barely passing biology and chemistry...then yeah, I'm gonna be pretty dismissive. But if they're top of their class, and on top of that seem to have a genuine interest in it...why wouldn't that be a good thing?

I don't come from a well off or educated family, so I can't really speak on what those sorts of families are up to. But I'm curious - is discouraging early career focus a status symbol for them? Or is it seen as a healthier way to raise their children? Both?
I'm not saying all that based on my college friends (they mostly did ok so far), I'm basing it on all the kids I grew up with who were huge strivers or seemed highly verbally intelligent (I didn't see their grades or anything) but ended up doing damn near nothing, like selling insurance or managing a bakery or some shyt. Or ghosted social media and don't have any record of their careers anywhere (in this era you know they're not doing shyt). Out of maybe 100 or so friends + friends of friends closest to me or that I'm most aware of, like 5-6 are doing better than me right now and I'm not even up like that. I'm pretty sure no one plans to be mediocre they all thought they were going somewhere

Like I said to the other guy you're hyping the girl up because it's medicine, if it was corporate law or investment banking you'd be like :dahell: you have so much time to develop general intellectual skills, you can think about that crap when you're 20, plus that's not really a sustainable career and people doing that stuff actually hate it. But medicine gets all the oohs and ahs, it's as if she said she wants to feed the hungry and house the homeless and save the wicked or some shyt

Being top of your class in some ordinary school is pretty meaningless. A lot of former top students are also in that "doing nothing" camp in my experience. High school and middle school classes just aren't hard enough to give a meaningful sign of potential. I'd only encourage kids who are deep diving into college textbooks in their free time out of thirst for knowledge. That's the camp that scientists and other thought leaders come from (or if they choose to do something applied they're more likely to succeed in those fields too). If you're just in love with the idea of having a prestigious career and do some cursory research into it but don't know what it takes you're just another striver kid rolling the dice, you might make it or you might not. I'm taking you any more seriously than a pre-med freshman.

Idk if rich families are explicitly saying don't reflect on career options but overall early tracking seems to be a working class or immigrant type of mentality to me. Rich folks aren't gonna crack the whip on their kids telling them to be doctors when they have generational wealth. If you had mid 8 figures you wouldn't care if your son makes $50k or $500k it probably makes little difference to your personal pride and you'd give him an apartment and large inheritance anyway. And the type of schools they go to are really different. If you took a standard public school curriculum you'd probably have some health / career requirement (that's pointless except for flunkies on the margin who might be helped by it) and you might have friends doing early courses in trades or something and these offerings would be presented to you at some point even if you're not interested. Prep school kids are far away somewhere in a rural town studying classics
 

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That’s what it’s all about breh, nurturing their interests.

My wife and I have never forced any career choices on our children, the only things we stress are faith in God, hard work, accountability, and striving for excellence in whatever you do.

My daughter did not choose to persue a career in medicine because of the amount of money she could make.

She’s brilliant, never gotten anything but A’s on any of her report cards ever and she’s been taking advanced classes the past two years.

This is her 1st year in private school, taking the hardest classes they offer, and she’s still not challenged.

She knows she could make more money in finance, business management, computer science, engineering, or politics, and she would excel in any of those fields.

We expose our children to all types of career fields and place no limits on their dreams and aspirations.

She wants to be a surgeon because she genuinely loves to help people and has a fascination with the human body and how it works.
Good luck to your daughter I wasn't dissing her (doesn't seem like you took it that way either) I'm just commenting on education and specialization generally

To keep it a buck one more time, I really doubt there's even one kid in the country who would excel in all of those fields
 
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