Loaded Lux - You'll Never Win (Official Video)
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krackdagawd
Inspire.
This is dope.
Gunshi can you please log off and go gag on a dikk, breh? Thanks
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
this nikka is so loud, far from smooth and offkey on this record.
it would be masterful, if he had the convincability and was on key.
duke's technical base is short.
till he fixes that, he will never be on key.
shyt is disappointing cause he is a great wordsmith.
yet, he lacks that full technical application to kill shyt over production.
art barr
it would be masterful, if he had the convincability and was on key.
duke's technical base is short.
till he fixes that, he will never be on key.
shyt is disappointing cause he is a great wordsmith.
yet, he lacks that full technical application to kill shyt over production.
art barr
nineteeneightysix
Banned
He is loud, but that's the producer and engineer's fault...
He is NOT off-key though...Dude is pretty much rhyming on the snare...
I agree with not being convincing...I just don't feel whatever it is he wants to say...Therefore, his lyrics don't really mean anything to me...
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
that is not the producer and engineer's fault.
as they are not emcee's typically.
nor, would they know how to teach said core skillset in a session.
plus, most producers don't know emcee'n at all.
as well as most engineers are not engineers who should be making rap.
you don't know what offkey means.
if he was not rhyming on the snare, and the beat that is called offbeat.
he is not offbeat.
lux is offkey.
offkey is when you lack the vocal tonality and ability to pocket your rhymes accurately.
which also, hampers your actual clarity to kill a break.
which is why he is loud, to make up for these deficiencies.
that comes from flawed rhyme writing, and an inability to pocket the rhyme.
as the rhyme is not technically spit/performed.
nor, written accurately to the production.
this is what being in the pocket, on key, and having vocal tonality, clarity and convincability is.
these are the examples and core skills lux lacks.
that is why he and the rest of those fraud accapella battle rappers except serius jones.
all need and have to battle rap accapella.
on top of the entire rap game in general.
as their skillset is not suited to produce actual rap records.
nor, do they have the real skill to really battle in a real battle on any break.
as they lack the clarity, vocal tonality, appropriate key, and inability to pocket rhymes on beat.
being an emcee, is about mastering those skills on a break.
of which none of those wack battle dudes except serius jones has.
loaded lux is trying to get by using big L, as opposed to lord finesse.
which is the main difference between the teacher and student.
this is big l, who was offkey.
yet, had the styles era, to hide his weaknesses.
on the four year delayed street struck released in 96.
that should have dropped in 93.
this is finesse after finesses, fully ramped up and became actualized and fully onkey in 96.
this is another emcee from harlem in the family tree lux wants to get by using offkey.
cam
357
this is cam, earlier on.
figuring it out here and there, in that era.
cam
d'rugs
this is cam solidified skillwise and completely onkey with the core skills he was missing in performing.
it takes years to figure out how to always be onkey.
cam
get'em girls
art barr
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KillSpray
Don't be mad
It's a shame he's using the flow that everyone was using last year, the game has moved on the the "Versace, Versace" flow now 
nineteeneightysix
Banned
In that case,
(1) That is a production problem...The producer and engineer should be giving direction on what kind of vibe they think will be most effective on a particular beat...
(2) What you are talking about, "offkey" is very subjective, when it is applied to hip hop...In something like RnB you can say a singer is off-key, if their pitch is higher than/lower than the key in which the song is written to be sang at, but Hip Hop has different rules...
Prodigy rapped on the same beat as the LL Cool J song you posted, and Prodigy created a completely different atmosphere with his cold monotonous murderous cadence...
In my opinion, Prodigy used the beat WAY better than LL Cool L...
My point is,
Loaded Lux us technically sound...He displayed so many flows in that song and he was on beat for the most part...The stuff that you are talking about can be fixed by a producer and engineer who have a vision and know what they are doing...
The way RZA was able to make all those VERY different Wu-Member voices work on classic Wu songs...
MoeDollaZ$
Well Damn!
these battle rap nikkas dont sound original on beats and shyt
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
most rap does not feature a producer.
who really knows the actual pillar of emcee'n.
to actually make it so, they pull a rapper on key.
which involves a technical know how of rhyme writing/emcee'n/performing.
which is why autotune is prevalent in rap, currently..
as it allows said producer to just hit a button.
as they generally are not keen in knowing these skillsets.
also,..as an emcee.
you are responsible for your vocal quality, not a producer in rap.
you are applying general classicly trained music theory and production to rap.
where that idea is not a-typical in rap recordings.
for a producer, or even the engineer.
to instruct a rapper about remaining on key and in the pocket.
you are coming from some classicly trained perspective of making a melody based song.
not a rap music perspective as far as studio recording.
to the point,..even, dr dre has not been able to put Eminem on key in the large abundance of their recordings.
as Eminem is still generally offkey every work.
while dre is generally regarded as the best producer in rap.
plus, dre is always onkey when he performs as a vocal performer of other work, as a rapper.
whom, also worked with one of the best onkey performers all time, in the DOC.
to show you an example of the information you lack.
dre
one less bytch
DOC
whirlwind pyramid
Eminem is one of the best styles morph/biter guys in rap history.
as he does not grasp vocal tonality, and is ofkey.
yet, he can emulate at times, when biting.
as biterphobia is a damn near expert copy of whirlwind pyramid.
yet, he can not originally craft his own wordsmithing on his own to be on key.
Eminem
biterphobia
you really don't understand this skillset.
which is why most fans of rap.
give passes to rappers for being offkey.
as they also, are probably rappers and want to create a flawed pass system.
that allows their offkey skillset to wrongly draw, as well.
so, they create a fake influx of passes.
in hopes they can do the same thing.
1986 said:
prodigy came about in a technical skill based gen, fuelded by nas's sinister onkey delivery.
from expert wordsmithing and the real early ahead of the class ability to pocket flows for that gen of rap.
who ushered in the technical skills era fully, in 1994.
which was some years after ll cool j perfected his vocal tonality on the original pink cookies in a plastic bag.
as ll was chasing the on key vocal performance of bdk, on:
ain't no half stepping
you also, don't know this shyt,..
as you fell for the trap, I set for you.
as you should have known the original production to pink cookies was ll's nod to finally capturing the skillset and vocal perfection of bdk, on ain't no half stepping.
which is why the original uses the same break and producer for ain't no half stepping.
when before this,..
ll here and there could only achieve this apex in skill.
illustrated on songs like:
as ll, is the only teenage rapper.
to actually sell long term and fully actualize every skillset of emcee'n as an adult.
that is why he is a legend and other large selling teens do not resonate, in the same manner.
unless they came up in a new styles era.
based on payola, and absolving the cultural nod to actual skills emcee'n.
1986 said:
lux is not technically fully sound.
he is a great wordsmith.
yet, he is not sound in his ability to be able to pocket flows and ride a beat.
plus, expertly rip a break every bar of a record.
as, lux is always offkey.
plus, will probably never ramp up in skill.
as he has falsely been awarded a draw.
that wrongly allows him to draw with an extremely flawed skillset as a performer.
being offkey in rap is generally a prevalent ideal.
as the skills era, ushered in a flawed landscape and abundance of returns.
to be able to draw as offkey vocal performers.
to this current point, as the change in sonic landscape and production gens.
usually and typically occur to frequently, for the marketplace and rappers who are not technically sound.
so, the large abundance of offkey rappers, are still able to draw.
while being offkey.
case in point,...biggie only really drew when he was onkey, as a solo performer.
as, those are the singles that were always selected on badboy.
when, previously, he was not an overnight sensation as you should have been in that era.
as he did not gain real traction on early works like supercat's dolly me baby.
where he is completely offkey.
plus, never drew solidly after being featured on mjb's remixes album and a white label that included dreams, as well.
till he solidified his skillset fully on:
his highest drawing singles were all submission were he was completely onkey.
from flavor in ya ear, juicy/unbelieveable, big poppa, and his entire skill set rampup on one mo chance.
plus, his fully actualized skillset on lad.
plus, alternatively big L.
never resonated over the same break predating it on mvp.
when, later on the video to mvp was in rotation at the same time as big poppa, after delays
as big L, was offkey
again,...
your mention of the wu were during the styles era.
also, has a flaw...
as the emcee who first had solo traction and original stand out members of the group.
either had a previous solo deal in the always onkey, gza.
or, the always completely actualized skillset of method man.
the other emcees in the wu had to ramp up inbetween solo recordings such as Raekwon, ugod, ghost.
whom, all ramped up solidly on obfcl.
or, never fully became onkey every record in ins, to odb.
yet, were able to draw because of profound skill in style or being an expert wordsmith.
guys like capadonna never solidly drew, as they were flawed in wordsmithing.
plus, never actualized a skill to write.
that also, hampered their inconsistent ability to pocket and stay onkey rhyming.
art barr
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Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
they are all offkey,..
except for the one exception to the rule:
serius jones
art barr
LA Fisher
Banned
This is dope like most of lux songs. I told nikkas way back when the nutcracker video dropped that loaded lux can make decent songs.
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