Logic: "I Dont Make Music For Hip-Hop...What Is The Culture? What Does That Even Mean?"

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Thats wack as fukk and you know it breh ....the dudes music is GARBAGE....hebhas always had a bug up his ass about black acceptance in hiphop...now hes got some real success and feels like he transcends the culture aka black acceptance. He basically saying he is no longer going to rack his brain trying to appeal to black audiences becauae this new emo cac rap is getting him the attention hes always wanted...basically he is stating he sold out and doesnt give a fukk.....
And why the fukk should he? There are black people that like him in his fan base already - the ones ya'll refer to as "nikka nerds". Why should he keep trying to appeal to a group that couldn't care less about his music? They're not buying his albums or going to his shows - fukk 'em.:yeshrug:
 

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And why the fukk should he? There are black people that like him in his fan base already - the ones ya'll refer to as "nikka nerds". Why should he keep trying to appeal to a group that couldn't care less about his music? They're not buying his albums or going to his shows - fukk 'em.:yeshrug:


:laff::laff::laff:.......I couldn't stop laughing at this shyt my dude.........
 

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so this is what being from"the hood" means to u?

U sound like an ignorant cracka using stereotypes about black people:camby:

fukk outta here cracka
Somebody in here said flashiness cars and stunting on other people is hip hop culture.

Typical Coli nikka disagreeing with someone and they must be a Cac fukk outta here with that bullshyt
 

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Hip Hop is for the streets, from the streets.....nobody wants to hear rap from you square, taken care of, suburban nikkas brehs:yeshrug:

Sorry, but thats been hip hop since day 1:manny:


If you REALLY into Hip Hop as you claim, then you know this already....hip hop is news from the lower class perspective. Nobody cares about what nikkas from The Burbs are rapping about.....not even other Suburban nikkas. :hubie:


And you claimed Rakim wasnt from the hood....well, he disagrees:




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Then fukk all y'all and if I ever be up without y'all approval don't get mad :manny:

All y'all in here sound like the female who curved a nerdy nikka, then get mad when he starts shining and rejects you. This is the exact attitude with Logic.

Rakim "growing up on the streets" of Wyandanch, Suffolk County doesn't make him a hood nikka, it means his ass was outside like most teenagers. Find me info supporting how hood Wyandanch, Suffolk County, Long Island is and I'll be wrong.

Aren't you a Drake fan talking about "nobody likes suburban nikkas"?
 

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Then fukk all y'all and if I ever be up without y'all approval don't get mad :manny:

Be mad at yourself breh.

You were raised in a middle class neighborhood, on the good side of the tracks. You're a square...you don't do drugs or drink. However, you wanna be a rapper instead of using the opportunities your parents worked hard for you to be awarded: better schooling than in the hood/safer environment than in the hood/less crime than in the hood.

But no, that's not enough....you rather spit in their face and be "mad" bc you cant be a rapper from the Burbs.

To it put it blunt, that's stupid.


All y'all in here sound like the female who curved a nerdy nikka, then get mad when he starts shining and rejects you. This is the exact attitude with Logic.

No, you sound like the female.


"Bu-bu-but, why wont yall accept me as a rapper? I struggled too in the Burbs. My parents aren't married either."


You should be ashamed of yourself for spitting in the face of your parents accomplishments....which is sacrificing to get YOUR a$$ out the hood, so you didn't have to go through what most of us had to grow up & experience. Instead of wanting to do something greater with your life, and using the resources you were allotted from your parents working to make sure you were able to graduate from a decent high school, you lament it all and instead wanna be a rapper, like those who WERENT born with the same benefits you were & received while growing up.


Rakim "growing up on the streets" of Wyandanch, Suffolk County doesn't make him a hood nikka, it means his ass was outside like most teenagers. Find me info supporting how hood Wyandanch, Suffolk County, Long Island is and I'll be wrong.

Aren't you a Drake fan talking about "nobody likes suburban nikkas"?

Drake? Drake is a just an artist...he makes music. Soundtrack music for when I wanna party, travel, or blow bread. I don't care what Drake is talking about when he gets to start whining about his personal life.


You need to do some more research on Wyandanch bc it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about.


Wyandanch is home to 11,647 residents, many of them commuters who leave the community for work—some using the rundown Long Island Rail Road train station. According to the U.S. Census, 14 percent of residents were living below the poverty rate—double the Long Island rate of nearly 7 percent.

Gov. Andrew Cuomo last year called Wyandanch “one of the most economically distressed communities on Long Island.”

But it is the strong gang presence that is troubling the locals, many of whom refuse to walk down the hamlet’s main drag, Straight Path, after dark. According to locals, drug dealing can be seen day or night and the sound of gunfire is not unfamiliar. Local chapters of major gangs, such as the Bloods, Crips and MS-13, have established themselves in Wyandanch.

The community has the fourth-largest concentration of gang members after
Brentwood, Central Islip and Bay Shore, according to a 2012 report by the Suffolk County Criminal Justice Coordinating Council.

Residents think twice before walking past Davidson Street or Straight Path BP gas station on a late night. They are tired of seeing the purse snatching, late-night shootings and parking lot drug pushing. Many will stop to talk of the late-night gang presence before mentioning the potholed streets.


NIC started at Wyandanch Memorial High School by a small founding group, according to Suffolk County police gang investigators, who consider it the most violent gang in the area.

Police say NIC recruits the youngest members, most of whom are between the ages of 16 and 24, some still in high school. Some police consider it a transitory gang, because members often switch to one of the more established gangs—Crips, Bloods or MS-13—when they reach their early 20s.

The biggest gangs, which have tentacles nationwide, have become engrained in the Wyandanch culture, police, residents and gang members say.


Is Wyandanch Rising Above the Violence?



You didn't experience ANY of this 1st hand...you were safe in your middle class burbs, hating your parents for trying to give you a better life. You pay them back by being mad online that you're not accepted as a "rapper" bc you not from the hood.


Get your priorities together my guy.
 

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Be mad at yourself breh.

You were raised in a middle class neighborhood, on the good side of the tracks. You're a square...you don't do drugs or drink. However, you wanna be a rapper instead of using the opportunities your parents worked hard for you to be awarded: better schooling than in the hood/safer environment than in the hood/less crime than in the hood.

But no, that's not enough....you rather spit in their face and be "mad" bc you cant be a rapper from the Burbs.

To it put it blunt, that's stupid.




No, you sound like the female.


"Bu-bu-but, why wont yall accept me as a rapper? I struggled too in the Burbs. My parents aren't married either."


You should be ashamed of yourself for spitting in the face of your parents accomplishments....which is sacrificing to get YOUR a$$ out the hood, so you didn't have to go through what most of us had to grow up & experience. Instead of doing something great with your life, and using the resources you were allotted from your parents working to make sure you were able to graduate from a decent high school, you lament it all and instead wanna be a rapper.




Drake? Drake is a just an artist...he makes music. Soundtrack music for when I wanna party, travel, or blow bread. I don't care what Drake is talking about when he gets to start whining about his personal life.


You need to do some more research on Wyandanch bc it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about.


Wyandanch is home to 11,647 residents, many of them commuters who leave the community for work—some using the rundown Long Island Rail Road train station. According to the U.S. Census, 14 percent of residents were living below the poverty rate—double the Long Island rate of nearly 7 percent.

Gov. Andrew Cuomo last year called Wyandanch “one of the most economically distressed communities on Long Island.”

But it is the strong gang presence that is troubling the locals, many of whom refuse to walk down the hamlet’s main drag, Straight Path, after dark. According to locals, drug dealing can be seen day or night and the sound of gunfire is not unfamiliar. Local chapters of major gangs, such as the Bloods, Crips and MS-13, have established themselves in Wyandanch.

The community has the fourth-largest concentration of gang members after
Brentwood, Central Islip and Bay Shore, according to a 2012 report by the Suffolk County Criminal Justice Coordinating Council.

Residents think twice before walking past Davidson Street or Straight Path BP gas station on a late night. They are tired of seeing the purse snatching, late-night shootings and parking lot drug pushing. Many will stop to talk of the late-night gang presence before mentioning the potholed streets.


NIC started at Wyandanch Memorial High School by a small founding group, according to Suffolk County police gang investigators, who consider it the most violent gang in the area.

Police say NIC recruits the youngest members, most of whom are between the ages of 16 and 24, some still in high school. Some police consider it a transitory gang, because members often switch to one of the more established gangs—Crips, Bloods or MS-13—when they reach their early 20s.

The biggest gangs, which have tentacles nationwide, have become engrained in the Wyandanch culture, police, residents and gang members say.


Is Wyandanch Rising Above the Violence?



You didn't experience ANY of this 1st hand...you were safe in your middle class burbs, hating your parents for trying to give you a better life. You pay them back by being mad online that you're not accepted as a "rapper" bc you not from the hood.


Get your priorities together my guy.
You ignored parts of my post to fit your narrative. You ignored that I have family in the hood, spent time in the hood, and I'm not some who can't relate to struggle at all. My parents also are FROM the hood but woukdnt fit in this box you placing people from the hood in.

Do you honestly believe every last rapper from 79-present day had poor parents who forced them be a street nikka to eat? You're basically saying if you didn't have to watch nikkas die or sell drugs to survive from a certain age and adopt a dope boy mentality with stunting on other nikkas a person shouldn't rap. That's real ignorant to say or believe and half the nikkas to ever sign a deal and sell a record don't fit this criteria you have. A lot of rappers either squares who happen to be in the hood, or they lived that street life but choose to talk about other shyt.

YOU sound like the female because you mad at Logic for not fitting your box and even more upset that he recognized it and doesn't make the shyt you want him to make. You would never accept him so why you mad that he won't accept you. Even more feminine than that is not being able to actually dispute anything about Logic or any rapper being hip-hop if they have work ethic for the craft and respect so you begin to pick apart my life cause it's easy and opposite of this "hustling street nikka" only mantra you wanna sing.

Drake is a surburban nikka, period. By your metric he doesn't belong. Or does he because he panders to "cool/street nikkas" with some of his music despite not being one?

Oddly enough, hood nikkas hear me, at least, and I get respect for what I'm able to do. If your mom's was on dope or your pops in jail or some other extreme circumstance you had and forced you to take care of yourself I'm sorry you had to go through that and salute for making it out. That goes for you or anybody in here. But that's NOT the end all be all for me or any other person rapping.

Find info telling me Rakims hometown was rough when he was a child. There's 2 towns where I'm at that were nice in the 70s but became ghettos by the 90s. Bringing 2012 figures don't apply to 1982.

And before you take the "moms on dope, pops in jail" shyt as a stereotype, it's not every hood brehs story and I hope it isn't yours but according to you if you don't have a story that forces you to be a street nikka you don't belong in hip-hop so let's see how "hood" one can be before it's a stereotype.
 
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:dead: @ his opinion/ideas being invalidated because he likes Kendrick.
Breh name any rapper you hold dear, ANY RAPPER likely has a sizable white fanbase.

The problem isn't being liked by White people or having white fans. The problem is people wanting to "Hip-Hop" but not claim the genre.


They want to co-opt the musical ideas, the style, the slang etc but treat Hip-Hop like it's a dirty word.

Kendrick HAS never done that shyt in fact dude dude has worn his love snd appreciation for the genre on his sleeve while Biterific Kendrick Lite HAS.
Dont get me wrong...Logic is corny for what he said.

But...
...When I was in High School....I was that hip hop head that was all about it.

Hell, even through my 20's I took this shyt serious.

But breh....ITS DEAD!
Its over.

Nobody cares anymore.
Black folks dont give a damn about hip hop or the "culture".
Its all just fukery.
We did it to ourselves.

The most poppin rappers are trash.

White folks can play with it because we as black people dont respect it.

If this was 98' I would be up in arms...
...but its not like the shyt young black kids listen to is any better.
 
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Logic should be viewed as an artist who uses rapping as his medium. Less confusion that way.
 

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All the "our culture" this and "our culture" that is laughable to the upmost extent. I just find it funny when I even see it or hear it. People are just so selective in their reactions and decisions about who to get mad at. Nobody takes the "fa da culcha" people seriously anymore because you've cried wolf too many times.

White executives took hip-hop off the streets and selectively peddled poison into your ears for decades in the form of gangsta rap with black faces fronting the movement and yall accepted it because you were too dumb to see what was happening. Not years, decades. Blacks have had ownership of nothing, turning their masters and their publishing over to record labels in exchange for pennies and the hip-hop crowd said SEE YA when the next fad came along. They turned tragedy into cash and you happily went along with it. You were fine with these dope boys saying they weren't rappers they were trappas. Hustlers making a mockery of the craft. Just so long as they were black and "real". Pumping nonsense into the ear of the youth. Acting like stereotypes. Everything was fine.

The last time the hip-hop crowd had any real power was when Eminem came along and Benzino went at his head. Yall took Em's side because the Interscope machine told you to instead of thinking for yourself. At that moment, you chose your side. Every since then, you let your rappers brag about record sales and who's got more money than skills. Who do you think buys all those records they brag about? White kids. It's their culture. Their daddies cultivated it and they grew up on it.

Now you're mad that half-a-white-boys with skills are dominating the industry and funny style hood rules don't matter?
You can't even come at him hard because you know he can rap. You can't call him fake because he hasn't lied. You can't call him soft because he never claimed to be hard. All you can say is that he's not hip-hop and he doesn't care.

Don't get mad now.
 

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If this was the 90's and he said that shyt he wouldn't be breathing, now we got c00ns actually caping for the crakkka :snoop:

Nobody stepped to No Limit for basically :pacspit: on the culture:

I give a fukk, bout hip-hop the culture of the call, This shyt is watered down like a scene from Jaws --- Mac, "Empire"

^^^ This was '98. I love the 90's and actually lived through it, but some if ya'll act like some of the same BS artists are on now wasn't tolerated in the 90's. I actually like the Mac song by the way.
 

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And why the fukk should he? There are black people that like him in his fan base already - the ones ya'll refer to as "nikka nerds". Why should he keep trying to appeal to a group that couldn't care less about his music? They're not buying his albums or going to his shows - fukk 'em.:yeshrug:
A tree with no roots can't stand. He has not history in the game and chooses to circumvent the culture because he isn't a part of it. He could easily end up just like Macklemore and it would be quite fitting. Just like he doesn't care about the culture neither do his fans and they will fade just as fast as they came.

Remember this guy had no identity his music is composed of biting concepts from everyone else around him.
 
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