my mind been gone since '01 jack.
but one things for sure, two things for certain, them tackhead albums aint never been classic.
edit: you said ssEp. not Lp.
I never heard that one, but neither have most of the people in here arguing in his favor.
lolol, some nikkas really saying that wayne > nas & Em ?
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my mind been gone since '01 jack.
but one things for sure, two things for certain, them tackhead albums aint never been classic.
edit: you said ssEp. not Lp.
I never heard that one, but neither have most of the people in here arguing in his favor.
Cloud McFly
All Star
Eminem and Wayne are both garbage now, but I'd take Wayne's catalogue over Eminem's without a doubt.
Nas = Top 5
Eminem & Lil Wayne = 30 to 50 area
Nas = Top 5
Eminem & Lil Wayne = 30 to 50 area
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
that is not exactly true..
as you have to actually compare how much versatility and permeation.
Eminem's discography gets draw wise, to the permeation that weezy, boosie and ross have in their discography, draw wise.
Eminem has a much larger volume based versatility and draw than ross, weezy and boosie.
to the point,...Eminem definitely did more and was signed from an actualized results and skillwise capacity.
whereas, weezy, boosie, and ross...
all needed a cosign from higher drawing entities to get any actual notice.
namely being the biggest drawing or known entities in gangsta rap.
from draper[suave house], pimp c, to cashmoney[bg & juvie underground] which all created a draw based off of higher skilled and actualized older guard new school draws in gangsta rap.
not to mention,...
none of those three actually are emcees with real skill based results.
let alone the capacity to do anything to completely ruin another artist line for line.
so, Eminem was able to make the records that boosie, weezy and ross had to get ghostwriters for, or supplied inferior skilled versions lyrically to make similar records.
plus, those records never resonated with their core audience or the crossover market like Eminem has.
where Eminem makes more actual real content based records and submission culturally than boosie/weezy/ross do.
Eminem is not marketed solely to the urban market, with a bit of cross over appeal like ross/weezy/boosie.
Eminem is marketed on a much larger global scale with numerous authentic skills based submissions in numerous genres.
ross, weezy, and boosie lack the skill to do that.
not to mention,..Eminem has the grimey verses, and urban crossover rnb records in his underground past.
that are given hof quotable status.
on top of urban cross over gangsta rap submissions, in a mixtape and album capacity that also showcased way more skill than weezy/ross/boosie.
which has nuffin to do with skin color or race at all.
it has to do with skill and Eminem's actual discography has more skilled and versatile submissions than ross, weezy, and boosie.
to the point,...that Eminem does not even need to mass market to the urban market.
like ross/boosie/weezy have to, just to possibly crossover.
I am not white...so, I have no idea what level the carni based production is meant to resonate on.
yet, I know for a fact...
that weezy, ross, and boosie could never get off on that style of production and show a range of skill or versatility that Eminem can.
while I also know...
that Eminem will and has outclassed any of them in whatever capacity or song in their discographies.
you think Eminem is inferior in.
art barr
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
dawg,....
this discussion is the same discussion I will body like I have all the time.
also,.....
if you never heard ssep...
how are you qualified to speak on Eminem's discography.
especially if you did not hear it when it was released.
plus, you not really an expert on the complexion of the culture at that time to speak on it.
if you have not heard ssep,..which is Eminem's definitive gateway work.
plus, the resulting effect it had, from a grassroots, to major label.
how can you say you are an expert on his discography to speak about comparing them.
unlike you,...I actually own the original dead stock ssep.
when it was originally released.
along with paying heavy attention to the other artist mentioned in comparison.
exactly when they first actually drew, or made definitive gateway works.
art barr
I fell back on the SSEP thing. I never heard it and if you want to say that its an underground classic be my guest.
but MMLP or whichever album you were vouching for.......hell to the naw.
@ MMLP being 3.5
back then. yea. it was just another album.
over time, it crept up to a 4. that's it.
UpAndComing
Veteran
The funniest thing I ever heard is people telling me Lil Wayne is a rapper
C'mon son
Eminems first 3 albums were coo but they were nothing great,ground breaking, or classic.
Plexxx
Return of the G
wayne aint in my top 50 