Low key, the NFC north looks ABYSMAL going into 2014

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

Why would you compare the gap between two all time great QB's with a group of WR's?

Calvin happens to be the best in football during a time where you could make the case that the top 4 QB's are the best...all if which are locks for the HOF.

alright i hear you but thats the competition in this generation. Its not CJ's fault he's way better than his peers. You can move him to 1988 is he worse than Jerry Rice or tim brown? The way he plays and his speed and size? If he's on the falcons getting jeff george go routes he's putting up these numbers too...of course this is a 'what if'...you make a good point

 

[FloorGeneral]

now we're insulting people. It isn't outlandish. Period. One is definitely the best in a high value position, the other is Aaron Rogers; one of the best in the highest value position. Straight up though, the gap between Megatron and Dez/AJ/Josh is bigger than the gap if there is one between Rodgers and Manning/Brees.

You can shut down rodgers with a good secondary and the seahawks WILL prove this in week one, you can't do an effing thing to megatron.

The "idiot" was in regards to your opinion on this topic. Thought you would be smart enough to distinguish that.

And gaps don't matter when you're talking about Wide Receiver. You picked the 2 positions in this league that are literally the easiest to find a player at, and put them above the most important position on the field. You said that, in a passing league, you valued a WR over the best QB in the league. You don't see the ridiculousness in that statement?

Also, the "best secondaries in the league" can't beat Rodgers. Come on man, you GOTTA be smarter than this.

 

[kash10003]

nikka have you seen the nfc east?


None of us would have winning records if we dint play each other

this is so true. Eli manning threw 30 INTs and won 7 games

 

[MVike28]

I know I didn't read in this thread that Calvin Johnson is arguably the best WR ever.

Your reading skills are lacking

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

The "idiot" was in regards to your opinion on this topic. Thought you would be smart enough to distinguish that.

And gaps don't matter when you're talking about Wide Receiver. You picked the 2 positions in this league that are literally the easiest to find a player at, and put them above the most important position on the field. You said that, in a passing league, you valued a WR over the best QB in the league. You don't see the ridiculousness in that statement?

Passing leagues are also recieving leagues

 

[954UAlreadyknow]

@ Brees being better than A Rod

 

[Jplaya2023]

you're simply gushing about how good he is but that doesn't support that he is the best player in the NFL. He isn't CLEARLY the best QB in the nfl. Brees he isn't CLEARLY the best player in his division. So until you explain how he's better than Peterson or Johnson, nothing you say matters.

Best WR is megatron
best RB are shady and AP
Best QBs are manning and brees
Best defensive players are richard sherman and JJ Watt

by saying "he's the best player in the nfl" matter of factly makes an assumption that he is definitely better than everyone on that list and he isn't.

you know better than to try me in conversation statboy.

maybe i'm gushing but i'm posting facts. His team stinks without him, he has no weakness in his game that's exploitable on a consistent basis. I'm not sure how u have calvin and AP as better. Their teams are cheeks with them and cheeks without

Aaron Rodgers wins 11-15 games when healthy, when not healthy GB is a 4 win team. That's his value that shows how good he is

 

[Ed MOTHERFUCKING G]

maybe i'm gushing but i'm posting facts. His team stinks without him, he has no weakness in his game that's exploitable on a consistent basis. I'm not sure how u have calvin and AP as better. Their teams are cheeks with them and cheeks without

Aaron Rodgers wins 11-15 games when healthy, when not healthy GB is a 4 win team. That's his value that shows how good he is

You continue to mix up value with ability and skill. you are speaking on his value to the packers and equating it to "best" but thats not how it works. I have calvin johnson as better because he is head and shoulders above other WRs and he sets records when he plays 16 games and teams reform their entire secondary scheme around him. The double him in goalline. He has no weaknesses at all and his abilities (speed hight hands routes) are unparalleled.

 

[Jplaya2023]

now we're insulting people. It isn't outlandish. Period. One is definitely the best in a high value position, the other is Aaron Rogers; one of the best in the highest value position. Straight up though, the gap between Megatron and Dez/AJ/Josh is bigger than the gap if there is one between Rodgers and Manning/Brees.

You can shut down rodgers with a good secondary and the seahawks WILL prove this in week one, you can't do an effing thing to megatron.

Aaron Rodgers was a blown call from beating them last year. You can take calvin out the game but it's hard to take out the best QB in rodgers

 

[Jplaya2023]

You continue to mix up value with ability and skill. you are speaking on his value to the packers and equating it to "best" but thats not how it works. I have calvin johnson as better because he is head and shoulders above other WRs and he sets records when he plays 16 games and teams reform their entire secondary scheme around him. The double him in goalline. He has no weaknesses at all and his abilities (speed hight hands routes) are unparalleled.

Calvin is great, but there isn't a huge gap between him and the second best WR. That's silly.

Just because Aaron isn't on another tier than brady manning and brees does not mean he can't be the best in the game. Again i ask you what are Rodgers weaknesses in his game?

 

[SchoolboyC]

I didn't say it but calvin johnson is definitely closer to being a 'top 5 WR' than Aaron rogers is to being a 'top 5 QB all time' thats for effing sure.

That doesn't automatically make Megatron the better player though. That's flawed logic when comparing players who play two different positions.

 

[Ed MOTHEREFFING G]

That doesn't automatically make Megatron the better player though. That's flawed logic when comparing players who play two different positions.

thats my response to the original person who said that's poor logic that he was top 5 all time qb...either way he's NOT top 5 QB all time so the discussion is moot.

 

[YouMadd?]

So glad Football season is starting

 

[Versa]

By saying Rodgers aint a top 5 QB of all time (right now) is some how downplaying his abilities

"How dare you say Marino is better than ARod!He gonna show you this year"

I said he could go down as a top 5 Qb all time when it is all said and done. I didn't say he is top 5 now. That would be Montana, Brady, Manning, Marino, and Young IMO.

 

[Versa]

low key i didn't say it was OUTLANDISH but it warrants discussion and that discussion isn't ridiculous to have. Personally I don't see how he's better than calvin johnson, and he doesn't have a season as good as peyton manning's last season

I think Rodgers would put up ridiculous numbers with those weapons Peyton had as well. Demaryius Thomas, Julius Thomas, Wes Welker, and that O line? I dunno breh. Packer's line been trash for a minute and he's still out there putting up ridiculous numbers compared to everyone but Manning. To say he's just very good is insulting IMO. Tony Romo is very good. Matt Ryan is very good. Aaron Rodgers is great.

I'm all here arguing for him like I rock with the Pack like that. I actually hope Seattle beats them next week