Macklemore and Ryan Lewis Hold Nothing Back On: White Guilt, Black Twitter and Responsibility

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The thing about this is that we've allowed whites to get off simply for acknowledging "white privilege". To me it's corny, because even the most racist of white people acknowledge their privilege. White supremacy within itself is acknowledges white privilege. It says that they are favored and entitled to whatever they want because of the color of their skin.

Acknowledging that the system works in their favor because they are white helps us how?

If he's going to address race relations in America, it'd more interesting to hear how he feels and what he plans to do to help rectify that. Economics and education are two of the greatest ways you can rectify that. I'm not saying write checks. I'm saying going into the communities and listening to ideas. After hearing the ideas, build an infrastructure that helps those ideas become reality. I'm not saying that we need Macklemore as some savior. I'm saying that if you really want to curve or even end white privilege, learn what it's like to move among people who aren't "privileged" and use your influence to better their situations.
 

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I hate Macklemore music in general, but I understand where he is coming from in this song. Makes me look at it from his perspective. At least he is aware of White Privilege and doesn't try to act like it doesn't exist

I enjoy any rap these days with a topic/message and even though I don't like Macklemore I can appreciate the song. Yeah dude panders alot to different groups with different agendas. But I genuinely thinks he respects and love hip hop more than half the black rappers in the game right now
 
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keep falling for the wolf in sheep's clothing.


america will never get better. cacclemore isn't doing his part correctly. for him its about FAME.
and actions speak louder than words.

most of you as you get older will understand that
 

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Whenever white people talk about this type of shyt...I mean, it would be like if someone pulled down my pants and told me that my balls smelled. LIKE I DON'T ALREADY KNOW?!?!?! THEY'RE MY BALLS!!!
this song isn't about you or for you..


you the same dudes that always complain that cacs are fukkin the devil and will never change.
Well this dude is actually trying to give the message that YES white privilege DOES exist TO WHITE PEOPLE!!

the same thing you militants constantly preach about...he's agreeing with you and telling white ppl to wake the fukk up.
 

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are you that cacclemore fan that had another name and all day and night was posting threads about him during the grammy episode.
i see you. you think you can hide under a different name??


cacclemore dont get it.

riddle me this, why did he name his shyt THE HEIST... but then have the nerve to use that word in a negative way on this song. what did he say?? "heist" the magic???
he accused others of that with that word and then had an album from years bakk called THAT WORD.

shut the fukk up. you dont even know what type white you are. africa is different than europe. you dont even know wtf you are in your veins. you have no identity
Bruh he was telling everyone that he was benefiting from white privilege. he was basically saying his last album was successful BECAUSE of white people and how him being white helped.

You guys are fukkin too much I swear. Constantly moving the goal posts around no matter WHAT The subject is.

and for the record, I don't really care for his music, but I heard this interview on Sway today and I thought it was aaight.

and another thing, I've never had another name....facts!
 

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The thing about this is that we've allowed whites to get off simply for acknowledging "white privilege". To me it's corny, because even the most racist of white people acknowledge their privilege. White supremacy within itself is acknowledges white privilege. It says that they are favored and entitled to whatever they want because of the color of their skin.

Acknowledging that the system works in their favor because they are white helps us how?

If he's going to address race relations in America, it'd more interesting to hear how he feels and what he plans to do to help rectify that. Economics and education are two of the greatest ways you can rectify that. I'm not saying write checks. I'm saying going into the communities and listening to ideas. After hearing the ideas, build an infrastructure that helps those ideas become reality. I'm not saying that we need Macklemore as some savior. I'm saying that if you really want to curve or even end white privilege, learn what it's like to move among people who aren't "privileged" and use your influence to better their situations.
hes not trying to help black ppl....directly.

Hes trying to get white ppl to wake up and realize there there is inequality in this country and that they need to start making changes.
Black ppl themselves don't have enough power to make systemic changes in America alone like that. If change is gonna happen its gonna have to happen with the help of white ppl.

Until white ppl stop being ignorant or blind to the facts nothing will change. and its easier(for alot of white people) to take that message from a white person than a black person.
 

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this song isn't about you or for you..


you the same dudes that always complain that cacs are fukkin the devil and will never change.
Well this dude is actually trying to give the message that YES white privilege DOES exist TO WHITE PEOPLE!!

the same thing you militants constantly preach about...he's agreeing with you and telling white ppl to wake the fukk up.
Same points black rappers have been making for years. My point is that he's exploiting a platform that was created by black people in an effort to profit off of our

issues in ways that a black rapper never could. He's talking about white privilege when it is because of his own white privilege that white people are even entertaining

his message. A white person is more likely to listen to another white person. So knowing this, why would he put himself at the forefront of a movement like this rather

than getting BEHIND black artists and helping them spread this message? It just all feels exploitative, and opportunistic.
 

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I hate Macklemore music in general, but I understand where he is coming from in this song. Makes me look at it from his perspective. At least he is aware of White Privilege and doesn't try to act like it doesn't exist

I enjoy any rap these days with a topic/message and even though I don't like Macklemore I can appreciate the song. Yeah dude panders alot to different groups with different agendas. But I genuinely thinks he respects and love hip hop more than half the black rappers in the game right now
deep down he's just another one of those hippy seattle dudes that wanna to just be happy and love everyone and wish everyone was happy.

I think he's genuine...hes pandering, but I think its coming from an honest place.
 

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keep falling for the wolf in sheep's clothing.


america will never get better. cacclemore isn't doing his part correctly. for him its about FAME.
and actions speak louder than words.

most of you as you get older will understand that
then doesn't the actions of wealthy black Americans speak louder than words as well?

They ain't helping their OWN communities but naw...see you wanna complain about mac
 

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I made it to 30 minutes, and got different things from it than what most of ya are commenting on. Pretty good info here, seems like a lot of internet folk don't no how to actively listen or think critically. Only checked it b/c I hear this guy is a big deal and Sway knows what's up, but mainstream entertainment tends to suck, so don't want to finish ...

Love u all ...

We need to take care of our health and promote more comfortable lives in our community, and this doesn't involve anything related to entertainment industries or the internet.
 

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Same points black rappers have been making for years. My point is that he's exploiting a platform that was created by black people in an effort to profit off of our

issues in ways that a black rapper never could. He's talking about white privilege when it is because of his own white privilege that white people are even entertaining

his message. A white person is more likely to listen to another white person. So knowing this, why would he put himself at the forefront of a movement like this rather

than getting BEHIND black artists and helping them spread this message? It just all feels exploitative, and opportunistic.
He's doing it on his platform because he's doing it to send that message TO white ppl.
Hes spreading that message that FROM a white guy to white ppl that this problem exists.

White ppl have heard it from black ppl...and guess what? they don't seem to give a fukk.
So why not try a different approach?
 

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He's doing it on his platform because he's doing it to send that message TO white ppl.
Hes spreading that message that FROM a white guy to white ppl that this problem exists.

White ppl have heard it from black ppl...and guess what? they don't seem to give a fukk.
So why not try a different approach?
I see how his message is different than an Elvis, or an Iggy Azelea in that he's acknowledging his white privilege, but I don't see how his actions are any different.

He's still making money off of an art form created by black people. He has still positioned himself at the forefront of a movement; dismantling white supremacy, that

he, himself, benefits from. Its a win win for him. I'm not giving him a cookie for doing what he, and all white people, should be doing. Especially considering the fact

that he's doing it in a way that is making him millions of dollars while there are tons of black rappers out here, spreading the same message while actually living the

life of a black person in a white supremacist society, starving.
 

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this whole black lives matter and pretending to stick up for black people angle is corny already

lost track about what black community are supposed to be protesting/mad at currently

its the new try hard trend
 
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