Do you think the Chicago Bulls players would threaten to boycott playing for the team until something is done about the violence there?
Mad at Donald Sterling but.....
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Do you think the Chicago Bulls players would threaten to boycott playing for the team until something is done about the violence there?
Prince Akeem
Its not that deep breh....
No. What is your point?
Why is that you think?
I am just asking, that seemed to be the tipping point with this whole sterling thing once the rumors started of the Clippers and other teams possibly walking off the court is when the NBA put their foot down, I think it's obviously for economic reasons more than anything else, they would have lost millions with a walkout during the playoffs
Which leads me to wonder if the players would make the same sacrifices for the communities that some of them grew up/ play in, not that they are under any obligation to
Also makes me wonder if Oprah, magic Johnson , flyod Mayweather etc would be as quick to offer intervene financially with tens of millions of dollars (which is the minimum they would have spent to buy the Clippers) in some of these cities, again they are under no obligation to do so
well in that case can they just boycott until world peace?Why is that you think?
I am just asking, that seemed to be the tipping point with this whole sterling thing once the rumors started of the Clippers and other teams possibly walking off the court is when the NBA put their foot down, I think it's obviously for economic reasons more than anything else, they would have lost millions with a walkout during the playoffs
Which leads me to wonder if the players would make the same sacrifices for the communities that some of them grew up/ play in, not that they are under any obligation to
Also makes me wonder if Oprah, magic Johnson , flyod Mayweather etc would be as quick to offer intervene financially with tens of millions of dollars (which is the minimum they would have spent to buy the Clippers) in some of these cities, again they are under no obligation to do so
The point is, people are NOT mad at black on black crime. You can point to a few minority of blacks who will speak out but the vast majority of blacks won't say a damn thing about black on black crime. The only time it is ever discussed is in the context of how the legacy of slavery lead to black on black crime. We never talk about what we as blacks can do to stop the violence. Here's a brother trying to shine light on the issue but yall don't want to hear it.
These black groups represent a small minority. They are not talked about by the vast majority of blacks. This forum is proof positive of what I'm talking about. Here on this forum I never see anyone talking about what we can do about black on black crime. It's only discussed in the context of what whitey can do for us.
Disregard thousands of local stop the violence initiatives or protest/marches over the country because the media isn't covering them brehs. CNN didn't cover them in the situation room so they must not be happening
There are not "thousands" of stop the violence movements. These movements represent a very small minority of blacks. Why don't you see these movements trending on twitter or youtube? Because black people don't give a fukk. Whenever black people care about something, it goes viral, instantaneously. You NEVER see any trends on social media about black on black crime.
Black people do not care about the wellbeing of other blacks unless the white man does something.
The fukk? That doesn't make any sense. You're telling me 8 THOUSAND blacks dying every year by their own brothers is not in the top 5 problems?
Gotta echo bigDeeOT's sentiments as I see things similarly. There's was a poster on here, whom I can't recall at the moment, but he made the comment that he was uber pissed about Donald Sterling. No disrespect to that man, but I couldn't entirely relate. I wasn't remotely upset by Sterling's comments. Matter fact, I was actually satisfied with his comments because it reaffirmed that my outlook on white people is justified that they all should be viewed suspicious until proven otherwise. I'm fair enough that I'll treat all of them and anybody else for that matter fairly, but his comments are a reminder to not go to sleep. That said, to be pissed at him knowing most of them feel the same way is a waste of emotion. Not to mention impractical when we've got larger internal issues to combat.
When I go out of town on business, and settle into the hotel, it never ceases to amaze me how every city's local news is the same. Who got shot, who got robbed, who got stabbed, yak yak yak. Then there's the faux outrage from within the community........tee shirts with the victim's picture, people doing mini marches, older women being interviewed stating, "we're tired of the violence." Blah blah blah. The reason I say blah blah blah towards their efforts is because at the end of the day they're accomplishing nothing but blowing hot air. If people want to clean up their communities from the drugs, gangs, and other ills, the cleanup has to be from within, but, and I hate to say it, the way to accomplish it isn't something most Blacks can stomach.
When I go out of town on business, and settle into the hotel, it never ceases to amaze me how every city's local news is the same. Who got shot, who got robbed, who got stabbed, yak yak yak. Then there's the faux outrage from within the community........tee shirts with the victim's picture, people doing mini marches, older women being interviewed stating, "we're tired of the violence." Blah blah blah. The reason I say blah blah blah towards their efforts is because at the end of the day they're accomplishing nothing but blowing hot air. If people want to clean up their communities from the drugs, gangs, and other ills, the cleanup has to be from within, but, and I hate to say it, the way to accomplish it isn't something most Blacks can stomach.
Dirty Mcdrawz
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Disregard inner city black youth programs because they're not trending on twitter. Might as well disband all those local communities committee meetings and events that focuses on black on black crimes in their city because they don't have a hash tag. Might as well stop trying to solve the root of the problem and focus squarely on the problem. What we need is more YouTube videos and more hash tags not the thousands of local committees, community leaders, and after school programs addressing the issue of black on black crime in the actual communities the violence take place at.
sterling and co's attitude in the economic food chain trickles all the way down to the violence in the black community...
Blacks do not care about these programs. I never see anyone here talking about these programs. Black people on the internet and blacks in real life do not care about these programs.Disregard inner city black youth programs because they're not trending on twitter. Might as well disband all those local communities committee meetings and events that focuses on black on black crimes in their city because they don't have a hash tag. Might as well stop trying to solve the root of the problem and focus squarely on the problem. What we need is more YouTube videos and more hash tags not the thousands of local committees, community leaders, and after school programs addressing the issue of black on black crime in the actual communities the violence take place at.
Edit: What evidence do you have to show that blacks actually care about these programs? I acknowledge that these programs exist, but if they are never talked about in the black community at large then its pointless. The black community loves to talk about sterling. So clearly that is something we are passionate about. But if we never talk about black on black crime you don't get to point at a few stop-the-violence marches and claim black people as a whole support the movement.
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man i used this same argument when i first came on the coli, but its sweeping leaves on a windy day.
yes, it IS the white man's fault there are so many problems in the inner city. but guess what? he isnt gonna clean it up. cry and cry as u may on internet message boards but the solution is ONLY going to come from black people. no matter how much you remind whites of their crimes against humanity, guess what? they dont care. in fact, they LOVE that you blame them because it gives them a sense of power.
when you blame somebody else for all your problems, even if it in fact is their fault, you give that person a certain kind of power over you.
NOBODY will EVER argue that blacks and latinos in the hood are not in the state we are in because of white supremacy. it is an indisputable fact.
all he is saying is, if you focus the outrage away from the cause and towards the solution, it will accomplish ohhhhh so much more. a while back somebody made a thread about solutions and it went like 3 pages and then got buried. somebody else made one about supporting black business and it went 3 pages and died.
let some racist cac a$$hole say some stupid shyt tho, we got 190 page threads about it (mind u im on 50 posts per page). i mean come on guys, you have to see how much of a waste of time it is. doesnt even have to be donald sterling. it could be some random white dude who calls some random black dude a name on twitter and the internet explodes with history lessons about white supremacy.
shyt is frustrating to me as someone who was always taught by pro-black militant teachers all throughout school (harlem district 5). they showed me my african roots as a dominican and taught me to love them and i always grew up more into black culture than hispanic culture. one of my heroes has always been malcolm and the black panthers cause i have always admired the BLACK man's strength. shyt my grandfather is my biggest hero and he is a BLACK dominican man with the physical, emotional and spiritual strength of a thousand men. if anybody can take their people from the gutter to the top its you guys, but you waste so much time on the white man brehs
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yes, it IS the white man's fault there are so many problems in the inner city. but guess what? he isnt gonna clean it up. cry and cry as u may on internet message boards but the solution is ONLY going to come from black people. no matter how much you remind whites of their crimes against humanity, guess what? they dont care. in fact, they LOVE that you blame them because it gives them a sense of power.
when you blame somebody else for all your problems, even if it in fact is their fault, you give that person a certain kind of power over you.
NOBODY will EVER argue that blacks and latinos in the hood are not in the state we are in because of white supremacy. it is an indisputable fact.
all he is saying is, if you focus the outrage away from the cause and towards the solution, it will accomplish ohhhhh so much more. a while back somebody made a thread about solutions and it went like 3 pages and then got buried. somebody else made one about supporting black business and it went 3 pages and died.
let some racist cac a$$hole say some stupid shyt tho, we got 190 page threads about it (mind u im on 50 posts per page). i mean come on guys, you have to see how much of a waste of time it is. doesnt even have to be donald sterling. it could be some random white dude who calls some random black dude a name on twitter and the internet explodes with history lessons about white supremacy.
shyt is frustrating to me as someone who was always taught by pro-black militant teachers all throughout school (harlem district 5). they showed me my african roots as a dominican and taught me to love them and i always grew up more into black culture than hispanic culture. one of my heroes has always been malcolm and the black panthers cause i have always admired the BLACK man's strength. shyt my grandfather is my biggest hero and he is a BLACK dominican man with the physical, emotional and spiritual strength of a thousand men. if anybody can take their people from the gutter to the top its you guys, but you waste so much time on the white man brehs
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Yes it does, and I agree with you. However, that still doesn't excuse the lack of accountability from within the Black community. Systematic racism does have a trickle down effect, but as evidenced in with Sterling, short of being able to read their minds or get them on tape, there's only so much that can be done. Regardless, that doesn't excuse the typical behavior found within too many of our communities. In a sense, it's as if we've either given up on our people, or don't know what to do. As a result there are people that seek to better themselves individually and get away from those circumstances. Or on the other hand, those left behind either turn an eye to what their own children are doing or take non-effective approaches to combat the problem, hence the typical chatter of, "we're tired of all the killing." If they truly were tired of the killing, they'd take more strategic and effective steps to mitigate the problems. They're all too happy to denounce Sterling, but not too willing to denounce their own daughters having illegitimate babies, or denounce their sons' thuggish behavior, etc.. Until effective accountability comes from within the community, cheering and praising someone like Sterling losing a basketball team will still be a hollow victory.