‘MAGA Dumb’ and ‘MAGA Crazy’ got to be a real thing. Old people happy and glad their 401k’s and life savings took dumps 📉.

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I agree and I don’t think he’s going that route. It’s all about cutting new trade deals.
China will make the deal they don’t want the smoke everyone is posturing. I expect something by Q4


Do you mean government Q4? (July to September). Or Q4 with regards to the business sector (October to December).

In any case it takes 30 days to ship from China to LA, so we'll start seeing the consumer effects on May 10th. 15 days after that supply chain issues will roll to the Midwest (30 ship days + 2 truck weeks to get to texas). If something does miraculously get worked out we won't see the benefits until 30-45 days after an agreement (and that's generous). In the meantime China is replacing u.s. imports with imports from other countries (in Brazil is now shipping more soy to China to replace the previous u.s. exports).
 

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My sister was talking to this older Italian guy at her job.

He was basically spouting off the usual MAGA talking points and claiming that immigrants are bad for the country, Liberal laws increase crime, and Democrats are Communists and blah blah.

So, my sister showed him all sorts of receipts about Trump that objectively showed him to not be good for the country economically or otherwise and that Democrats aren't even close to Communist but he was way too adamant in his beliefs. Even when she got him to agree with her on certain things, he still reached the same conclusion at the end.
It’s all feelings. Rooted in racism, classism, and or greed. There’s no real logic to in. It’s not even about Republican vs Democrat. A Republican and a Trump supporter are 2 very different things. MAGA is a cult.
 

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These kinda MAGA people are in a cult. Their behavior makes sense to them. You can't reason or use logic as they always have an excuse.

They could lose everything and some of them would still trust Trump.

These are the lost causes. I have seen some of these kinda folks going off at town halls as they know they are creeping towards getting completely fukked over.
 

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Notice how the bothsiders crew are nowhere near to be found in this thread? :skip:
You know how stupid you’d look if you tried to defend 1/4 of your portfolio/life savings tanking? shyt, maybe 1/2 or more if your portfolio or life savings at some point in all this mess.

:pachaha::russ:

That’s like a top 3 tier cope to spin that one.
 

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And this is why its a cult for its white boomer, evangelical christian fan base all over.

They are willing to lose thier 401k’s if that means white skin stays on top despite their voting and greed is whats really going to hurt their “future generations”…


These fukks never cared about the future of anything.
 

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These kinda MAGA people are in a cult. Their behavior makes sense to them. You can't reason or use logic as they always have an excuse.

They could lose everything and some of them would still trust Trump.

These are the lost causes. I have seen some of these kinda folks going off at town halls as they know they are creeping towards getting completely fukked over.
It will take someone they love, respect, and fear worse than Trump for them to see anything…


Or Trump flat out say it to their face which he’s already done multiple times.
 

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According to current census projections, the United States is expected to become a "majority-minority" nation where white people are no longer the majority population around 2043. This means that the non-white population will outnumber the white population by that time.

Fear of the inevitable. 18 year countdown


The fear and anxiety of the inevitable is why some white people throw logic out of the window when it comes to politics.
 
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It will take someone they love, respect, and fear worse than Trump for them to see anything…


Or Trump flat out say it to their face which he’s already done multiple times.
The funny thing is Trump has literally called these people idiots.

Then these people spin it with the cope “Trump is referring to most of his supporters but not people like me!”

People literally think they’re a special snowflake when it comes to consequences and/or criticism.
 

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And this is why its a cult for its white boomer, evangelical christian fan base all over.

They are willing to lose thier 401k’s if that means white skin stays on top despite their voting and greed is whats really going to hurt their “future generations”…


These fukks never cared about the future of anything.

It's not just boomers though. :francis:

You have a huge amount of Zoomers, particularly white guys under 25 riding for Trump. Social media is turning a lot of that gen into Hitler youths.
 

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Do you mean government Q4? (July to September). Or Q4 with regards to the business sector (October to December).

In any case it takes 30 days to ship from China to LA, so we'll start seeing the consumer effects on May 10th. 15 days after that supply chain issues will roll to the Midwest (30 ship days + 2 truck weeks to get to texas). If something does miraculously get worked out we won't see the benefits until 30-45 days after an agreement (and that's generous). In the meantime China is replacing u.s. imports with imports from other countries (in Brazil is now shipping more soy to China to replace the previous u.s. exports).
I meant Q4 business. He has to get it right by midterms. If we get to Q2 ’26 and we’re still experiencing extreme pain then it’s a failure.
 

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It's not just boomers though. :francis:

You have a huge amount of Zoomers, particularly white guys under 25 riding for Trump. Social media is turning a lot of that gen into Hitler youths.
Zoomers are just followers…

Most of these new generations are followers, but most “zoomers” who agree with Trump are really just incels or maybe white evangelist bytches.

But yeah, polling numbers show more of the zoomer story by demographic. Incels believe whatever podcasters say in general in which Trump has those dudes in his pocket… so far
 

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It’s such a shame Gen-X and Millennials were caught between Boomers and Gen-Z SMFH.

Gen-Z really dropped the WFH movement that Millennials built up carried up from Gen-X rebellion and instead they started kissing boots and going full MAGA.

These old people sound crazy, but Gen-Z sound crazier sometimes especially with them knowing their vote sets up their future they got to sit in for the next 40-50 years.
 
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Well it’s good that u can predict the future. I think you’re just frightened by change
It's not about predicting the future, it's about understanding how we got here and why doubling down on failed policies won't fix anything. One of the first things Trump did when he took office in 2017 was to severely weaken the fiduciary rule that protected retirement savings from being ripped off by Wall Street firms. His administration also pushed that deregulation scheme disguised as a retirement plan (ARPs) for small businesses, which offered zero oversight or protections against mismanagement by financial firms looking to exploit workers savings for profit.

He let private equity firms get their hands on 401(k)s. He passed massive corporate tax cuts that overwhelmingly benefited the wealthy and corporations at the expense of workers. He gutted the CFPB, which weakened oversight of predatory financial practices. And he restricted retirement plan managers from considering long-term investment risks.

Trump isn't offering change. He's doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result. How exactly do any of these actions help ordinary workers trying to save for retirement? How does any of this fix a broken system instead of making it worse?
 
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