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Bittasweet said:
If France is the greatest then why are they having problems assimilating immigrants?
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France is far from the greatest not even top 5 in Europe, but assimilating immigrants? The US has problems assimilating the people that built this nation from ground. :what:

And they've been importing people from completely different cultures (Muslims). A lot more than the US. They are a lot harder to assimilate than Asians and Latinos, who are well integrated into their system. And that's true in any nation where there's large immigrated Muslim populations. But unlike the US the Europeans have been helping the victims of our wars, it's obviously not an easy task but it's humane.
 
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Harry B said:
France is far from the greatest not even top 5 in Europe, but assimilating immigrants? The US has problems assimilating the people that built this nation from ground. :what:

And they've been importing people from completely different cultures (Muslims). A lot more than the US. They are a lot harder to assimilate than Asians and Latinos, who are well integrated into their system. And that's true in any nation where there's large immigrated Muslim populations. But unlike the US the Europeans have been helping the victims of our wars, it's obviously not an easy task but it's humane.
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:comeon: so black folks that were born and raised in the states have it as bad as new immigrants?

Do your research before talmbowt importing different cultures because having an open border doesn't mean shyt.

There's a reason why I specifically mention assimilation because a high assilimiation rate suggest that a country's government have made conscious and dedicated efforts to balancing certain factors that directly affects assimilation which are the naturalization process, employment, cultural tolerance, and living standards

Muslims in the US assimilate at a higher rate than in Europe. I believe Canada may beat us in that category. But like I said earlier, there are more than one reasons why the USA is the greatest country in the world

The USA is an unique experiment that was never done before. A country of immigrants, allowed to freely practice their religious beliefs, while striving for equality for its citizens. Work still in progress, but at least the founding fathers had such goals during the nation's inception. How many other countries could say that?
 
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Bittasweet said:
:comeon: so black folks that were born and raised in the states have it as bad as new immigrants?

Do your research before talmbowt importing different cultures because having an open border doesn't mean shyt.

There's a reason why I specifically mention assimilation because a high assilimiation rate suggest that a country's government have made conscious and dedicated efforts to balancing certain factors that directly affects assimilation which are the naturalization process, employment, cultural tolerance, and living standards

Muslims in the US assimilate at a higher rate than in Europe. I believe Canada may beat us in that category. But like I said earlier, there are more than one reasons why the USA is the greatest country in the world

The USA is an unique experiment that was never done before. A country of immigrants, allowed to freely practice their religious beliefs, while striving for equality for its citizens. Work still in progress, but at least the founding fathers had such goals during the nation's inception. How many other countries could say that?
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1. There's a difference between a country that has kept on redefining itself for 2k years and one that's was founded 230 years ago. Founding fathers, lol. They still need to play they Christian card to run for office, which is completely false in other nations in the oecd. That's completetly irrelevant to the discussion.

2. There's a difference between a country of 300 million welcoming a small group of educated Indians and a country of 60 allowing a significant amount of uneducated Syrians who arrived in boats made with their bare hands. Apples and oranges. We might as well say that Australia is the best, cause they allow one phd Iraqi per year.

3. For the US to compete with say Germany the system would need to see how it's like to receive 7 million Syrians and Afghans in one year. Adding that to the 20-30 million that had already been entering for the past 20 years and had to live together in projects in the outskirts of the city to make sure that there was enough housing. Of those new migrants, a significance portion would be 13-25 year old boys. I'm not sure that you understand the completely different dynamics and inflow procedures. It's like comparing Mexicans in the US to Mexicans in France, completely stupid.
 
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Rakim Allah said:
I thought I was the only one. In 6th grade I would bring up the ball blinking. Emulating CJ gave me confidence. I saw some one who looked me balling at the point. I even named my homeboy in the backcourt Maurice Williamson. He had the flattop and everything.
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Lol. That's crazy. I thought I was the only one too!
 
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Harry B said:
1. There's a difference between a country that has kept on redefining itself for 2k years and one that's was founded 230 years ago. Founding fathers, lol. They still need to play they Christian card to run for office, which is completely false in other nations in the oecd. That's completetly irrelevant to the discussion.

2. There's a difference between a country of 300 million welcoming a small group of educated Indians and a country of 60 allowing a significant amount of uneducated Syrians who arrived in boats made with their bare hands. Apples and oranges. We might as well say that Australia is the best, cause they allow one phd Iraqi per year.

3. For the US to compete with say Germany the system would need to see how it's like to receive 7 million Syrians and Afghans in one year. Adding that to the 20-30 million that had already been entering for the past 20 years and had to live together in projects in the outskirts of the city to make sure that there was enough housing. Of those new migrants, a significance portion would be 13-25 year old boys. I'm not sure that you understand the completely different dynamics and inflow procedures. It's like comparing Mexicans in the US to Mexicans in France, completely stupid.
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You talking alot of BS to redirect the discussion. I was very specific in what factors make a country assimilation rate high. Not one of those factors you addressed, so it's clear what type of discussion you are use to....rambling and deflecting. What's funny is that news reports, specials, and if you took the time to google "Europe's immigration problem", you'll see European leaders admitting to their continual inability to assimilate immigrants, but here you are talking different

Now you want to minimize the USA's efforts due to when it was established? completely ridiculous. A country established 230 years, being able to handle immigration better than a country that's 2k years, is another example of why the USA is better. You talking christian card , while ignoring the various religions practiced in the USA

So the USA is cherry picking the educated immigrants? lol. How absurd is that to suggest, while these same educated immigrants had options to goto other countries, but chose the USA. Focusing on the recent syrian immigration problem is a waste of time because it's way too early to determine assimilation progress of these Syrians in any country. That's completely irrelevant to the discussion. Your poor attempt at trying to use a specific current situation to deflect the relevant historical data that shows each country's assimilation rates throught the years, shows your willingness to be intellectually dishonesty, just for the sake of arguing
 
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