He already passed Manning. Manning 2nd ring is about the worse example to measure him by.
I'm not measuring Manning by his rings, otherwise why would I say a guy with 2 rings is a GOAT3 quarterback? There's more than 3 guys with more rings than Manning...
I'm not measuring him by his rings clearly, but what I am saying is Manning had an 18-year career and won two rings. I don't think Mahomes has hit a higher peak than Manning, and clearly he hasn't held this level of absurd play even half as long yet, as Manning did. But I can't deny a guy who doubles Manning's ring count in as long or fewer time than Manning played, as he's already more consistently great in the postseason than Manning was...
3 wont do it for me. 4 will...
No he doesn’t, this isn’t the NBA.
This doesnt even happen in the NBA, Mike doesnt have the most rings ever...
Mahomes is clearly the most gifted ever. I think 5 puts him as the greatest.
Brady gets the title based on success, but there will always be the opinion that there were more talent qbs. That argument doesn't exist with Pat.
I think with Brady alot of people will bring up how he was 2-0 vs Mahomes in the postseason, too. That's not something Mahomes will ever shake...
However, continuing to own his era the way he is, draws him closer to Brady each year...
Exactly.
the absolute lack of respect for Tom friggin Brady is honestly deflating, no pun intended.
I mean, the man has proved time and again that he's the GOAT, yet haters can't seem to give him the credit he deserves. It's infuriating to see people prematurely crown Mahomes already. I mean nikkas here saying mahomes is the GOAT with 1 more ring. Hell some already crowned him because he passed their 'eye test'.
Give manning andy reid, I'm sure manning wouldve posted better playoff stats.
And don't forget Mahomes also looked horrible in the SB against the GOAT.
I cant have mahomes in top 3 yet. I just cant. It's too premature. Narrative will flip very quick if he loses to the niners.
Remember yall crowned Rodgers too.
I'll crown him if he stays at the top for another 15 years and break every brady's record. Until then leave the GOAT alone.
These "eye test" nikkas are tge worst posters on here. We literally have dudes who say Mahomes is the best passer or most athletic QB they've seen, which is objectively false. Guys call him the most clutch player ever, how quickly forget this guy choking an 11-point lead at home in the AFC Championship. I know a guy who never did that...
How quickly they forget him in the Super Bowl he lost, he was bad. Yes his o-line was bad, he had some guys drop some passes too, but he was not "good" in the Super Bowl vs Tampa. But nikkas on here call him the "most" everything...
I'll revisit where he stands next to Brady in a half-decade if he keeps this dominance up. Until then I'm not entertaining a "better than Brady" conversation and I'm only lightly entertaining a "better than Montana/Manning" conversation. He's closer to them, but there's a pretty significant gap between him and Brady...
Hate or amnesia.
Brady's resume is retarded. Not trynna go into detail cuz we'll be hear all night.
Mahomes has a lot of work to do before it's a serious convo.
it's literally not even close yet, it's not going to be close with a 3rd ring, either...
The award is definitely overrated.
Matt Ryan has an MVP. That should tell you all you need to know about it
Who deserved it more in 2016? MVP isn't overrated...
it wasn't 20 years ago...