Major Backstage Chaos At RAW – Verbal Fights?
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Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
Only part of any of that I have zero problem accepting as true would be Bret getting pissed, because it's Bret & deep down it would probably piss him off scripted or not.
on the real..
plus, bret's persona was always so defined when he threatened people.
you really had no get back.
I still got one of my best alltime threats from bret hart,.......
that to this day, still makes nikkaz realize I am serious as fukk and I am ready to take it an inch further.
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Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
orton does not have mic skills to hang with no cena, breh.
cena is argueably the best wwe grassroots developmental talent on the mic, ever.
yeah,..we crap on him for just taking the hulk Hogun character route.
in favor of his much cooler rapper heel gimmick.
yet, and still...
people front hard body on the guy.
that if you really paid attention to ovw...
john cena was the best actual talent not named rico, back then.
only issue with rico, is.
they saddled him with that wack dancer who is gay gimmick.
that predated fandango with a bit to much androgynous weirdness.
rico should have been repackaged, and allowed to work a bit more.
he was a good worker, and ramped up all the past wwe developemental turned me of the past decade, from ovw.
of that,...cena was the best all around worker.
while easily showing during his rampup and character change.
he is one of the best original wwe developmental characters of all time.
I grew up with the anemiac workrate of hogun.
after, being duped by great promo after promo.
where there was never any payoff workrate wise.
except the orndorf time limit draw on snme.
so, I actually really appreciate cena.
plus, I feel like one of his first fans.
as I cheered him on from his other tv shows, to wwe developmental/ovw.
I just don't pull the I told you so, with cena.
yet, I told chu,..nikkaz.
what it was when he debuted.
then, re-iterated it,..once I seen him debut the rapper gimmick that actually could rap.
art barr
*feels proud a kid who saves his allowance is not getting ripped off inring workrate wise.
if they get a wwe ppv, with their money if cena is the main draw.
art barr
*is still mad about the seventy bucks I lost on wm iii.
wack ass hogun and manis bullshyt, to the umpteenth power besides macho/steamboat.
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When the Struggle struggles to keep Cena in check, Cena's voice becomes more Boston'ish. Then he starts slamming you with New England Truth. I remember how much he dropped on Dolph, giving him props at first but then reminding him of his place because he spent so many years in the Spirit Struggle; not taking his job lightly, and could have made a name for himself. Them Make a Wish tears bring out the best in Cena.
Dolph Ziggler is still probably going "WTF..this guy buried the shyt out of me". If anyone put him over, it was Del Rio if anything.
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
It stings so much more when the promo is real and true
ooooo that shyt gotta hurt
of course management is mad that there was actually a great ending to the show
it's not supposed to be good.
art barr
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
dolph ziggler, needs more moves in his moveset before he gets elevated.
duke has cripple ache's attitude era moveset of:
punch
kick
neck breaker
secondary finisher
finisher
his shyt is boring as fukk......
when he failed with aj, is when he got exposed as a character, too.
big e, worked off aj, in the Kaitlyn feud just fine as a rook.
after the aj in the lockerroom schpeel...dolph was never a plus as a draw or as a quality watch, after that.
all because he really needs to ditch the billy gun shyt.
plus, get better as a character and workrate/moveset.
watching that nikka, is like watching paint dry, boring.
art barr
AquaCityBoy
Veteran
I'm sure Punk and Cena were punished as harshly for this as they were for that piledriver spot. 
Thought it was Swagger who put him out?
The Great One
Swag Surfin
He didn't bury anything.
Cena consistently gives guys who would normally not get a main event spot at a PPV one (Ziggler, Mark Henry, Wade Barrett, R-Truth, Daniel Bryan - well, until Cena got hurt then they were forced)
Who else is giving these guys END OF THE PPV MAIN EVENT spots? Honestly think about before you flame uncontrollably.
Yes he wins, and you call that burying, but going back to the other thread, sometimes its not about winning or losing.
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I'm sure Punk and Cena were punished as harshly for this as they were for that piledriver spot.
I forgot about that
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
I'm sure Punk and Cena were punished as harshly for this as they were for that piledriver spot.
good one!!
art barr
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
I don't mind being wrong.
I was under the impression, it was a bret killer, that did it.
art barr
Stack Money
All Star
If this is real then its official that Orton gettin both straps.Orton winning..cena going into business for himself?
Cena ethered Randy that badly... wtf did he say?
That makes me think this was leaked by the E and is all kayfabe, Orton shoved Punk in the face and Punk started punchin Orton so they were supposedly still goin at it backstage.
Is the Orton name and family reputation THAT big tho? It ain't like his pops was Hogan or somethin and he one of the best wrestlers of his era so he hasn't exactly been ridin his family's coattails, in fact wit his in ring ability/accomplishments and popularity he already done eclipsed the rest of their careers. If anythin his own potential is why he got a pass on shyt, but all the major stars always get passes includin Cena (HBK especially used to stay doin some fukk shyt and not gettin punished).
I mean he was in a stable wit the sons of Ted DiBiase and Dusty Rhodes who were bigger than his father/grandfather and uncle ever were, not to mention you got alot of relatives of legends like Rikishi Yokozuna and the Hart family and none of them gettin that kind of special treatment. He got hit wit Wellness violations but no one protected him they gave him 30 and 60 day suspensions like everybody else, so all that seems more storyline than a shoot.
The "handpicked to be THE guy" "let a dude in a t-shirt and khakis take your spot" "you got lazy (obvious smokin weed reference)" stuff was definitely a shoot tho.
That applies to everybody tho if they allowed to just shoot and say whatever they want they'd all be droppin bombs, when certain guys go off script while others don't it makes their promo skills look way better than it actually is (CM Punk).
He does if he starts shootin cause he da goat at spittin some real shyt and etherin muhfukkas, anyone who's ever heard one of his interviews knows he witty and can go in.
usopp
Pro
Rico had mental issues