Majority of Black Americans reject the idea of GAY right as CIVIL rights..

[GoddamnyamanProf]

A lot of people on this site are full of shyt. They act all militant and hypersensitive about not just systemic racism, but any perceived minor slight to black men, but will insult, trivialize and show outright hostility to the situations of hispanics, asians, Indians, women, gays, or pretty much anybody who isn't a heterosexual black man. It's white male paternalism in blackface.

Dudes will type out these faced polemic calls for justice while calling people cacs, fakkits, bytches, and pakis in the process and get mad when nobody outside the corny e-militant echo chamber takes them seriously.

Well said, that's exactly what it is. It's really sad because they're just exposing themselves and letting you know that they have no real concern or perhaps even no concept of objective civil justice and human rights. It really boils down to the most selfish mentality of if it doesn't immediately concern me and mine, then everything I was previously taking a stand for flies out the window and, in extreme cases, the stance flips entirely.

Its really for me to process

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

Do you have a stat for this? I've been looking for one.

Black-White Differences in Attitudes toward Homosexuality and Gay Rights

 

[alpo]

These dudes need to fall back. They come up with all these talk of gay discrimination but much of the discrimination gays is acceptance from their own family members rather than society at large. Even then, most parents/family members come around to accepting them even when they don't support their lifestyle.

Do any of these people support transgender rights? Do they support transgender people being able to play in sports that are aligned with their gender identity? Should transgenders have the right to have insurance cover their transition to becoming male or female?

I want to see some answers from them...

they are going to be next.

 

[intilectual recipricol]

You're completely missing the point. The last time this was brought up, the majority of black people on here supported same-sex marriages, but found the direct comparison off. You are effectively arguing against nothing. Aside from hardcore religious people, that's not what irks people. Though, you'll find much more support or civil unions than same-sex marriage, but that's not an AA thing, that's the entire world. I'm actually on your side, but you need to chill with the broad strokes.

I was addressing a few things I read, which is why I didnt quote anything. Look I'm all for being offended when its time to be offended. But comparing gay rights to black rights aint one of em. Struggles for civil rights are struggles for civil rights, to me, thats all that needs to be said.

 

[No1]

Black-White Differences in Attitudes toward Homosexuality and Gay Rights

That study is from 2003

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

your not using your "INTELLIGENCE" Sensitive Blake! explain to me how this possible Sensitive Blake? im sure you will wow us with your limitless knowledge and we are not worthy for in dispute wisdom

Artificial insemination, and adoption.

 

[The Real]

Any or both. Whose the gay Trayvon Martin?

Matthew Shepard - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

There's one famous example (and notice that he's a clean cut white person, so all this talk about simply hiding his sexuality doesn't fly here,) and there are more, but additionally,the reported violent hate crime rate against homosexuals was actually at its highest ever during the last two years: 2012 reports of violence affecting LGBTQH communities in the media in the United States - AVP: The Anti-Violence Project

 

[Marvel]

they are going to be next.

Yep, I'm waiting for these people to answer those questions since they are so adamant about equal rights.

While they are at it...they should fight to have women in the US register for selective service just like men do. A man not being able to get federal financial aid for college because he failed to register selective service should be considered a violation of civil rights.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

Theres no marriage in nature, the fukc you talkin bout?

fukk it. I'll play, since you wanna deal in semantics.....

Marriage has been around for at least 5000 years and is used to make sure the family structure is held in tact and that a man could pass on his legacy to his seeds......

Get it..seeds. family(Man,Woman,child)....reproduction....The way it was intended basically.......

Explain 2 me how 2 men start a family...

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

That study is from 2003

Didn't even notice that. Not like the study said anything damning.

 

[alpo]

where were you when alot of gays come out and say they were molested? where is the fight then? oh that's right, it's better to accept 'they were born gay" to accept the fact that most of them had been molest as a child, which that makes somebodies "responsibility". yeah go ahead and ignore this! nobody said nothing when them boys were molested in penn state, everybody just brush it away like it didn't happened; exspecially like a lot of you people witnessed seeing your family member happened to him or her. Yeah go ahead and ignore this! look at how many kids today have been molested and nobody DO A THING! EVERBODY MAKED JOKES ABOUT BEING MOLESTED. Yeah go ahead and ignore this!

i see all the gay "rights" soldiers didn't answer these questions. what, this post wasn't "intelligent" enough? COME ONE GAY SUPPORTERS, FIGHT FOR YOUR "RIGHTS"

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

fukk it. I'll play, since you wanna deal in semantics.....

Marriage has been around for at least 5000 years and is used to make sure the family structure is held in tact and that a man could pass on his legacy to his seeds......

Get it..seeds. family(Man,Woman,child)....reproduction....The way it was intended basically.......

Explain 2 me how 2 men start a family...

Homosexuality is displayed all throughout nature you fukk tard. The only reason marriage came around is so the male can have domain over one woman and ensure it was his sperm producing offspring. Family and the ideas of family are social constructions (they have changed over time).

Reproduction is intended, doesn't mean it has to be with one person.

 

[intilectual recipricol]

fukk it. I'll play, since you wanna deal in semantics.....

Marriage has been around for at least 5000 years and is used to make sure the family structure is held in tact and that a man could pass on his legacy to his seeds......

Get it..seeds. family(Man,Woman,child)....reproduction....The way it was intended basically.......

Explain 2 me how 2 men start a family...

So, by that measure, couples that cannot reproduce should have their marriage revoked. My supervisor at work would be delighted to hear this new law proposal since she cannot have children (or seeds) and was forced to adopt. You dont need marriage for reproduction, I knocked up a broad and wasnt even married... your argument is complete ass. You dont have a single standing point.

 

[No1]

I was addressing a few things I read, which is why I didnt quote anything. Look I'm all for being offended when its time to be offended. But comparing gay rights to black rights aint one of em. Struggles for civil rights are struggles for civil rights, to me, thats all that needs to be said.

Well, you're in the minority on that. But it's not even that serious. It's not like I'm hyper-offended by it. It's just one of those things you hear and go This is honestly just something that will cause more vitriol to be falsely launched at black people. Like what happened in California.

 

[Serious]

See, here you are again, arguing against shyt while failing to take the time to fully understand. I don't say this often, but I'm going to be real about this. You're not black and that's why you don't understand why it pisses black people off when the comparison is made. Sometimes, there's just some things you won't fully get unless it's articulated to you. With black people it's a visceral reaction as you can see in here, it's not something that needs to be explained to us. It has little to do with christianity the way intellectual and others are trying to paint it.

People do equate the struggles and we had a thread earlier this year talking about it with a bunch of eloquent opinions. Brown Pride, also didn't realize that it offended black people, even someone progressive like me until we explained it to him. I have no qualms about gay marriage, but do not like it being equated with the civil rights movement. People who are not black equate the two all the time. Macklemore is running around with a popular song right now doing just that.

Gays are largely arguing and fighting for symbolic equality (obviously economic benefits are at play as well) and recognition and fighting against stigma and that sort of equality. Sure it's a civil right, but what is at stake is a on a much lesser scale and to continue to analogize the two is taken by MANY black people as downplaying what our ancestors went through. It's the same way how my Jewish friends are automatially offended by reckless Nazi and Holocaust comparisons. I try not to get into comparing genocides and things of that sort, but when something clearly isn't among that penunmbra of terrors then the comparison is just lazy. I could go on forever. The day you stop using "on my facebook" and "I've never heard anyone say this" as shortcuts is when you'll get it.

And amid all this you fail to realize that rejecting the idea of it being an equivalent Civil Rights struggle is not equivalent to not supporting the cause. Black Americans still remain in higher support of gay rights than the American population as a whole. Imagine that, people are complex. :obamaword: