Majority of Liberals and Conservatives: Blacks are Mostly Responsible for Own Condition

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http://www.vox.com/2014/6/27/584719...rvatives-say-racial-discrimination-holds-back

You can see that only one of those seven ideological groups sees racial discrimination as the primary driver of widespread disadvantage for black Americans. That group, which Pew has named "solid liberals," are a small minority. They make up 15 percent of the general public and 17 percent of voters; Pew defines them as "generally affluent and highly educated...Most say they always vote Democratic and are unflagging supporters of Barack Obama."

 

[DEAD7]

 

[The Real]

And where do you stand on this question, friend?

 

[Richard Wright]

This is basically true... there is nothing holding black people back, but there is an enormously large set of systematic hinderences holding poor black people back.

 

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

This is basically true... there is nothing holding black people back, but there is an enormously large set of systematic hinderences holding poor black people back.

NOTICE. how this Caucasoid throws in his buzzword to try and deflect his own bigotry. as if blacks with "wealth" aren't held back and discriminated against.

 

[Yapdatfool]

And where do you stand on this question, friend?

Blacks would be better off voting libertarian.

What a surprise, white folks think tightening up bootstraps = success. Which would be true if you can get the opportunity to show & prove, but when you don't, then what??

And those who think different are dripping in white guilt.

 

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

Blacks would be better off voting libertarian.

What a surprise, white folks think tightening up bootstraps = success. Which would be true if you can get the opportunity to show & prove, but when you don't, then what??

And those who think different are dripping in white guilt.

So you think privatizing hospitals, roads, being free to openly discriminate based on race, gender, sexuality and religion is worthwhile and that we need less government?

Never mind the fact that Libertarians are trying to get into the government in the first place (thankfully failing) instead of taking on a more free range, off the grid lifestyle.

 

[Richard Wright]

NOTICE. how this Caucasoid throws in his buzzword to try and deflect his own bigotry. as if blacks with "wealth" aren't held back and discriminated against.

Having wealth and being held back are mutually exclusive states.

People with wealth are successful.

And the poll is extremely flawed - giving two options and basically leading the survey taker - I for one believe that the destruction of family, war on drugs, and shyt education system are the biggest things preventing blacks, and americans in general for being successful. Stop justifying your own failures.

So because I would rather make something of myself, and hopefully be successful in the future, I must be white?

 

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

Having wealth and being held back are mutually exclusive states.

People with wealth are successful.

Didn't say they weren't. But you cannot deny the rode to monetary success differs if your first name is Tariq over Travis.

And the poll is extremely flawed - giving two options and basically leading the survey taker - I for one believe that the destruction of family, war on drugs, and shyt education system are the biggest things preventing blacks, and americans in general for being successful. Stop justifying your own failures.

Agreed. But where is your evidence I'm a failure?

So because I would rather make something of myself, and hopefully be as successful as many of the people that post in HL in the future, I must be white?

Where exactly did I say that? You "make something of myself" types just ooze your insecurities onto others you come in contact with.

 

[Richard Wright]

@comradeyakub The number one indicator of someone's financial success is not their race, sex, or religion.

It is the economic status of their parents. Poor people as a whole are much more marginalzied than black people as a whole.,

Blacks are much more successful in this country than you seem to realize

 

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

@comradeyakub The number one indicator of someone's financial success is not their race, sex, or religion.

But It is a factor in which hinders one ability to get to "financial success".

It is the economic status of their parents. Poor people as a whole are much more marginalzied than black people as a whole.,

So...is that why the job rates for blacks with college degrees as oppose to white's who don't and even have criminal backgrounds are strangely similar?

Blacks are much more successful in this country than you seem to realize

Never said they weren't. again. you're putting words in my mouth, I never uttered, Boy.

 

[Richard Wright]

@comradeyakub

No matter what you say it is a statistical fact that your parents income matters more in relation to your income more than any other factor. College degrees are worthless pieces of paper as far as I am concerned. You seem to have nothing but excuses.

You seriously believe that a black kid whose paents are a private practice doctor and an MD at morgan stanley hasd a worse shot in life than a white kid from a single mcdonalds worker mother?

The real difference is in networking, which black people can still do, its just not as easy without family connections.

 

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

@comradeyakub

No matter what you say it is a statistical fact that your parents income matters more in relation to your income more than any other factor. College degrees are worthless pieces of paper as far as I am concerned. You seem to have nothing but excuses.

You seriously believe that a black kid whose paents are a private practice doctor and an MD at morgan stanley hasd a worse shot in life than a white kid from a single mcdonalds worker mother?

The real difference is in networking, which black people can still do, its just not as easy without family connections.

There are no absolutes.

You also, fail to point out where I was excusing...any behavior? I'm just pointing out factors that prohibit blacks from climbing up the social ladder. Thus adding to their apathy and overall cynicism to those who have "made it" in this country.

I also notice how while you speak in absolutes, you also contradict yourself as well.

Then again, you can't even spell "parent's" correctly, so why would I expect anything but mediocrity and talking in circles with you.

 

[Richard Wright]

There are no absolutes.

You also, fail to point out where I was excusing...any behavior? I'm just pointing out factors that prohibit blacks from climbing up the social ladder. Thus adding to their apathy and overall cynicism to those who have "made it" in this country.

I also notice how while you speak in absolutes, you also contradict yourself as well.

Then again, you can't even spell "parent's" correctly, so why would I expect anything but mediocrity and talking in circles with you.

youre either trolling or what im saying is going over your head. Im finished here

 

[Ya' Cousin Cleon]

youre either trolling or what im saying is going over your head. Im finished here

just admit you can't refute my points, so you cop out by calling me a troll.