Majority of Liberals and Conservatives: Blacks are Mostly Responsible for Own Condition

[theworldismine13]

Okay by that logic, white people should be responsible for their decisions that their ancestors made by enslaving people to their advantage. By your logic, white people should give reparations and serve time for their ancestors crimes against humanity. You sound stupid as fukk in this thread bruh.

I'm not sure why that seems ridiculous, my only problem with reperations is that logistically it's impossible, but white people should give reperations and they deserve to be punished for what their ancestors did

But to be perfectly blunt black people lack and have lacked the military power to get reperations and to punish those that enslaved us

Ultimately anybody that was involved in our enslavement should be punished, that is part of taking responsibility, we need to bid our time and resources

I don't know why people think I'm giving anybody a pass, my position is very pro black, by giving another man responsibility for your life you stop being a man IMO

 

[FreddyCalhoun]

Having wealth and being held back are mutually exclusive states.

People with wealth are successful.

And the poll is extremely flawed - giving two options and basically leading the survey taker - I for one believe that the destruction of family, war on drugs, and shyt education system are the biggest things preventing blacks, and americans in general for being successful. Stop justifying your own failures.

So because I would rather make something of myself, and hopefully be successful in the future, I must be white?

It's not that you rather make something of yourself. It's that your path to make it is much easier than those who have to struggle with systemic racism, poorer school systems, lack of nutrition and an economy of illegal activity that was created by the very same government that jails the offender.

To ask for a people that were enslaved 400+ years, without Civil Rights until the +80 years later, and than pump drugs into that community to fund an unsanctioned war, which lasting effects has broken the Black Family almost to nothing to just "get over it" in this small time span is insane. I agree with the poster...I would assume your white, that would explain the lack of empathy somewhat. But If you are black, this makes your ideals so much worse...smh

 

[rapbeats]

It's not that you rather make something of yourself. It's that your path to make it is much easier than those who have to struggle with systemic racism, poorer school systems, lack of nutrition and an economy of illegal activity that was created by the very same government that jails the offender.

To ask for a people that were enslaved 400+ years, without Civil Rights until the +80 years later, and than pump drugs into that community to fund an unsanctioned war, which lasting effects has broken the Black Family almost to nothing to just "get over it" in this small time span is insane. I agree with the poster...I would assume your white, that would explain the lack of empathy somewhat. But If you are black, this makes your ideals so much worse...smh

actually it will mean the other poster's ideals are worse. it means he's just retarded like all of us our. us being black folks. yeah, i said it. thats what happens when a people are treated like that for this long, non stop.

that goes for the rich black folks to the poor ones. some are better off then others. some (very few) have overcome their retardation process. but most have not done so as of yet.

there is nothing wrong with admitting you are a victim of a racist system. while at the same time trying to stand up and do what YOU CAN DO. to make your life and your family and others like you, better.

You can see both things at once. it isnt one or the other. its both.

 

[FreddyCalhoun]

actually it will mean the other poster's ideals are worse. it means he's just retarded like all of us our. us being black folks. yeah, i said it. thats what happens when a people are treated like that for this long, non stop.

that goes for the rich black folks to the poor ones. some are better off then others. some (very few) have overcome their retardation process. but most have not done so as of yet.

there is nothing wrong with admitting you are a victim of a racist system. while at the same time trying to stand up and do what YOU CAN DO. to make your life and your family and others like you, better.

You can see both things at once. it isnt one or the other. its both.

Than mention both...just stating that we are to blame is a failure to convey you feel this way.

 

[rapbeats]

Than mention both...just stating that we are to blame is a failure to convey you feel this way.

i agree.

but you wont get most people to say both

1. you have people that are victims. NOW and were victims in the past, while also having DNA in them from other past VICTIMS.

we're basically a big bag of anxiety and depression. lets keep it 150 and stop acting like it aint what it is. how on earth do you explain how quick a nucca is to shoot another nucca over nothing. thats a horrible combination of anxiety and depression.

some people are born sociopaths (NATURE). some thru NURTURE are being turned into them.

So of course those people will cry victim because no one seems to give them the moment to cry at all.

Then you have the other retarded folks that have made so called "something of themselves" so they think because they have financial success. therefore they are then crowned successful. would anyone call DMX successful today? .... exactly

success to me is being in sane mine, while being able to take yourself or your family. it doesnt have to mean being a baller. success is when you can successfully navigate thru life with your mental state intact.

 

[Richard Wright]

It's not that you rather make something of yourself. It's that your path to make it is much easier than those who have to struggle with systemic racism, poorer school systems, lack of nutrition and an economy of illegal activity that was created by the very same government that jails the offender.

To ask for a people that were enslaved 400+ years, without Civil Rights until the +80 years later, and than pump drugs into that community to fund an unsanctioned war, which lasting effects has broken the Black Family almost to nothing to just "get over it" in this small time span is insane. I agree with the poster...I would assume your white, that would explain the lack of empathy somewhat. But If you are black, this makes your ideals so much worse...smh

Did you just join yesterday or something? I'm obviously not white. The options in the poll were racial discrimination or everything else.

You guys don't give our enemies enough credit- they have far more lethal sociological weapons than explicit discrimination.

I'm from a single parent family in one of the poorest most segregated cities in the country. My family household income was 4 figures last year. But this isn't last year anymore. I spent my entire childhood getting made fun of for reading and liking math - I almost dropped out of high school. The only reason I made it to college was my sat score.

I've faced plenty of blatant and subtle racism on my path towards success, but when I have been hindered in life that has never been the reason. This is America. Everyone has their own bottom. I got myself to the middle class within 2 years of graduating high school.

As someone who is both poor and black, poverty is a way bigger factor in holding people back. It's the little things like knowing how to network and which fork to use at 5 star restaurants that I've had to adapt to- I cam fully embrace being black and have many black professional mentors. Being black has given me pride and fuels my sense of American identity. Being black means I have to make it in this world because my grandpa was. A slave and I have a shot to make it while kids my age serve a double life.Being poor makes me always wonder if I belong at the table.

Now I'll ask you the same question- do you really think that the black kid with a dad who is an md at jp Morgan and mom who is a physician is in a worse position than the white kid whose only parent works at McDonald's?

There is not a single factor that hinders people at the level of the individual in this country that is a uniquely black issue.

I really think a lot of you have just never been around successful black people.