Man set free for 13 yrs after clerical error thrown back in jail after its discovered.

[Bender Rodriguez]

Rehabilitation >>>>>> Confinement

 

[Box Cutta]

He should be sent free.

You can't yoyo with a man's life like that, regardless of what he did.

State will just have to learn from the mistake and KIM.

But he's a black male...so who knows what will happen. We're ALL examples.

 

[Still Benefited]

Rehabilitation >>>>>> Confinement

only argument I could see them having is if what he did the same as a inmate walking out of jail bcuz somebody left the gate open....if that person reformed theyself and changed they life around he's still a fugitive and would people say he should be set free?or would they say he cheated and should be sent back to jail?,seems like this guy did try to check up on his status by calling his lawyer,and he wasn't hiding so he obviously really thought he was free for real as naïve as that shyt sound

 

[Bender Rodriguez]

only argument I could see them having is if what he did the same as a inmate walking out of jail bcuz somebody left the gate open....if that person reformed theyself and changed they life around he's still a fugitive and would people say he should be set free?or would they say he cheated and should be sent back to jail?,seems like this guy did try to check up on his status by calling his lawyer,and he wasn't hiding so he obviously really thought he was free for real as naïve as that shyt sound

I mean i know he should feel some sort of repercussion for armed robbery but i mean its not like dude is out there doing it again. Plus most prisoners do better with rehabilitation then just being locked up and then released cause most of the time they back out there doing the same shyt

 

[nalej]

They can't just let him go because it would set a precedence and there would be a bunch of other requests from inmates to get set free because of clerical errors.

 

[TRUEST]

I just read the article and I have to say something here.

As black men we need to hold ourselves and eachother to higher standards. I was listening to a Sports radio show the other day and they were talking about a kid who got charged with armed robbery. Eventually the kid was released on probation but his scholarship was revoked. Now, the host of the show was saying" Look everyone deserves a second chance. The kid made a mistake and ...."

I am fine with giving a kid a second chance but "mistake"? It got me thinking to the point where i had to look up the english definition of mistake. Because to me, making a mathematical error when leaving a tip is a mistake. Oversleeping and waking up at 9 instead of 7 is a mistake. However, doing 91 in a 60MPH like i got caught doing is not a "mistake". So surely robbing a store doesnt qualify as mistake. At least not to ME. I know it fits within the english definition of mistake when it comes to lapse of judgement. And I knw the justice system is RARELY fair to our kind. But too much tolerance goes on when we hold ourselves to these low standards.

Everyone deserves a second chance. Just because u were raised in a decent environment doesn't mean the next man was.

and yes, doing 91 in a 60MPH zone CAN be a mistake...depending on the car you're driving. if driving a luxury car, u can be doing 90 and it'll feel like ur doing 40. if someone keeps getting caught doing that though, then, that's a different story. but u really need to think things through before u affect people's lives or start casting opinions that could.

 

[intruder]

Everyone deserves a second chance. Just because u were raised in a decent environment doesn't mean the next man was.

and yes, doing 91 in a 60MPH zone CAN be a mistake...depending on the car you're driving. if driving a luxury car, u can be doing 90 and it'll feel like ur doing 40. if someone keeps getting caught doing that though, then, that's a different story. but u really need to think things through before u affect people's lives or start casting opinions that could.

If you notice i said i'm fine with giving people a second chance. (2nd paragraph, 1st sentence) I'm ALSO one who believes once you served your sentence (even for fellonies) you should regain all rights including right to vote and own guns.

My problem was calling the act of robbing store at gun point "a mistake".

 

[FaTaL]

if hes lived a clean life since the arrest he should be left alone

 

[Killer Instinct]

Doing my dude like John Marston.



Fine him, issue community service, throw him on probation for a set amount of time, but it's been 13 years. He didn't kill anyone and hasn't been in any type of legal trouble since. Let him live.

 

[HoloGraphic]

Isn't a crime invalid after a certain number of years? Like you can't be charged with something over 10 years old?

 

[No1]

I just read the article and I have to say something here.

As black men we need to hold ourselves and eachother to higher standards. I was listening to a Sports radio show the other day and they were talking about a kid who got charged with armed robbery. Eventually the kid was released on probation but his scholarship was revoked. Now, the host of the show was saying" Look everyone deserves a second chance. The kid made a mistake and ...."

I am fine with giving a kid a second chance but "mistake"? It got me thinking to the point where i had to look up the english definition of mistake. Because to me, making a mathematical error when leaving a tip is a mistake. Oversleeping and waking up at 9 instead of 7 is a mistake. However, doing 91 in a 60MPH like i got caught doing is not a "mistake". So surely robbing a store doesnt qualify as mistake. At least not to ME. I know it fits within the english definition of mistake when it comes to lapse of judgement. And I knw the justice system is RARELY fair to our kind. But too much tolerance goes on when we hold ourselves to these low standards.

Unfortunately people like you with no conception of the human psyche or social science are the ones drafting laws, and largely because they don't affect their communities. I really wish people like you would stop saying "we as black men" to position your views in a space where it is representative of what people of color should believe based on noting more than your narrow conception of what is right and wrong. The problem is that you think that if someone does something wrong they MUST be punished and that something cannot be a mistake if it was done deliberately. Most mistakes are done deliberately because individuals believe that it was the proper choice at the time, the question of justice is what values in society are we weighing and the law is the result of that calculus. The result of your calculus has proven that your computation is flawed for the better part of the last century. Anyone who calls "rehabilitation" nonsense needs to remove himself from the policy debate. From my own anecdotal experience, I can say that the low level offender like this has a much greater chance of being rehabilitated than the white collar criminal.

 

[intruder]

Unfortunately people like you with no conception of the human psyche or social science are the ones drafting laws, and largely because they don't affect their communities. I really wish people like you would stop saying "we as black men" to position your views in a space where it is representative of what people of color should believe based on noting more than your narrow conception of what is right and wrong. The problem is that you think that if someone does something wrong they MUST be punished and that something cannot be a mistake if it was done deliberately. Most mistakes are done deliberately because individuals believe that it was the proper choice at the time, the question of justice is what values in society are we weighing and the law is the result of that calculus. The result of your calculus has proven that your computation is flawed for the better part of the last century. Anyone who calls "rehabilitation" nonsense needs to remove himself from the policy debate. From my own anecdotal experience, I can say that the low level offender like this has a much greater chance of being rehabilitated than the white collar criminal.

I know i may have overstated the NONSENSE part but like i said in posts after that I believe in rehabilitation but PUNISHMENT is also part of the deal as a deterrent to others who may even think of such thing.
So robbing a store at gun point was the right choice at some point in time??? You really think they "believed" that?
And don't kid yourself doggy because i don't. I am fully aware that I am not suited for policy making. Ive said it many many many times in this very forum that mofos should pray that I'm never in a position of power because I'd be a straight up dictator. I know damn well what I am and where I stand on things. But i'm FAIR and would dish it out evenly regardless of your race, religion and income level.

And yes i was one of those that applauded the caning of that white boy in Singapore years ago. Same principle: You fukk up. You pay a price.

So for my own good and that of you tolerant fools you can rest assured i'll never pursue a career in anything involving policy making. I know my role and my limitations.

 

[Drake is God]

statute of limitations

 

[Ice Cold]

Isn't a crime invalid after a certain number of years? Like you can't be charged with something over 10 years old?

statute of limitations

Think y'all are talking about the same thing but it wouldn't apply in this case, because he got convicted within the statute of limitation, it'd be more like if someone got convicted and then was on the run imo.

Personally I say let my boy go! he turned his life around, got married a contributing member of society let him live

 

[Family Man]

You know them crime and punishment CACs are dying to throw another black man in prison.