Man the Cavs really were all good just 2 years ago

[TheNig]

That headcase thinks he has a point with that post...

He actually does. But it's a two way street. I think LeBron screwed them when he pushed for JR and Tristan to get paid but who am I to say that a black man can't get his money.

On the other side, management did a terrible job in regards to maintaining salary. They knew good hell well that Tristan wasn't worth $80 mil but they felt they had to bow to LeBron.

It's my biggest fear as a Laker fan.

 

[Weaver31]

Could have had Irving and rose

Trading Irving with two years on his deal for a midget with a bad hip was stupid as hell

That was dumb....I wouldn't have did it even if Kyrie got his surgery

 

[TheNig]

That was dumb....I wouldn't have did it even if Kyrie got his surgery

Can't keep a guy that doesn't want to be there. Look at the Minnesota situation.

 

[Swagnificent]

Yet you’re the same fakkit who says you only cheer for players & not teams

Exactly.

I don't care about what happens to any franchise. I'm simply responding to this thread which is about how the Cavs fell apart.

The reason the Cavs are now a mess is because of LeBron and how he jumps from team to team holding them hostage for short term success then leaving them high and dry when a better opportunity comes around.

Never said I gave a sh*t about it. Just explaining this situation. You Bron stans are just mad cause it sheds a negative light on ya mans.

 

[Swagnificent]

Yes, and he also brought both franchises titles, constant championship contention, and more notoriety than they’d ever had.

True.

But he also leaves a mess when he bounces without warning. You gotta take the good with the bad. Can't pretend his actions aren't also responsible for the mess afterwards.

 

[Swagnificent]

His legacy is 1a or 1b.

I agree. Among Small Forwards all time its:

1a. LeBron James
1b. Scottie Pippen

 

[camer999]

Exactly.

I don't care about what happens to any franchise. I'm simply responding to this thread which is about how the Cavs fell apart.

The reason the Cavs are now a mess is because of LeBron and how he jumps from team to team holding them hostage for short term success then leaving them high and dry when a better opportunity comes around.

Never said I gave a sh*t about it. Just explaining this situation. You Bron stans are just mad cause it sheds a negative light on ya mans.

A teams responsibility is to get good player, regardless. These players each make millions to be good at the game of basketball, not be good only when “X player is here” and not be “the team is ass but X player does so much it covers the flaws pretty well”. Cavs are very obviously the latter. Bron himself knew it was ass.if the Cavs ended up with that PG13+Bledsoe we’d have a different conversation, but they are incompetent and fired griffin. Maybe just admit the team was just NEVER that good without lebron. MIAMI was left bad because wade decline and bosh blood clots. Or you wanna blame him when cle had there team win 61 games and then he leaves and that same roster wins 19?

 

[10bandz]

@Swagnificent got nikkas PRESSED in this thread

 

[10bandz]

I love it
@GoddamnyamanProf how is Kareem not in the convo

Kareem is in the convo. He's #2 after MJ but prof is an extreme bron rider

 

[Originalman]

Oh and let me say this to be clear

In my previous post..... it’s not about Lebron.... you can sub him out and put ANY other player in that post.

I just hate how we all be seeing how these franchise do players and how they show when it comes down to them....... “business” is the excuse they use for their lack of loyalty.

They never care that certain players may have dug down and laid roots in this city with their family, community involvement shyt or personal businesses or etc.

I remember how hurt Steve Smith was in Panthers traded him and this pledge he made about his love for Charlotte and how he never wanted to leave and will return when his career is over.

Oh and don’t forget about how Sac did D Cousins

Franchises don’t feel like they owe players shyt and they don’t help them when they cut or trade them in regards to moving and getting settled in new cities or etc.

So what part of the game is it or where is it said a player needs to help these billion dollar franchise on their transition out?

Martha

Well said and I always mention how Mike Finley was done here in dallas. The mavs cut him and amnesited him. Yet he had set roots here in dallas and loved this city.

Also in the childrens educational field he was known all throughout dallas as a player who really put his time and money to help low income children (I knew folks in early childhood education who worked with him).

When he was cut one of the biggest reasons he signed with the spurs (will never forget hoe ass mavs favs booing him when he came to dallas as a spur) was so he could continue his work in Dallas with kids.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

I agree. Among Small Forwards all time its:

1a. LeBron James

Players, small forwards, whatever

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Well said and I always mention how Mike Finley was done here in dallas. The mavs cut him and amnesited him. Yet he had set roots here in dallas and loved this city.

Also in the childrens educational field he was known all throughout dallas as a player who really put his time and money to help low income children (I knew folks in early childhood education who worked with him).

When he was cut one if the biggest reasons he signed with spurs (will never forget hoe ass mavs favs booing him when he came to dallas as a spur) was so he could continue his work in Dallas with kids.

I always like Finley and I felt he should've always had more respect as a Mavs player than what he got.

I remember them Mavs teams with Nash, Finley and Dirk and he was a HUGE asset to those teams

Martha

 

[Originalman]

I always like Finley and I felt he should've always had more respect as a Mavs player than what he got.

I remember them Mavs teams with Nash, Finley and Dirk and he was a HUGE asset to those teams

Martha

Yes he was and to the community I can truely say he is a good dude.

 

[chowism]

Y'all said that team was a super team last year and Bron had more than enough.

 

[chowism]

This is what LeBron does.

Leaves franchises in shambles. Cavs lost Kyrie because of him. He also destroyed the Heat after he left them high and dry.

The jumping from team to team without warning and forcing management to stack the roster with his type of role players and having zero flexibility to succeed in the future after he leaves. This will impact his legacy.

You were saying Bron had a super team. How did he leave this super team in shambles when he was the only person to leave? If they're a super team they should be at least a playoff team in the East without Bron.