beenz
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upping this thread in honor of the bucks attempting to overpay monta ellis and for the sheer absurdity that is the NBA cap #.
Man the NBA salary cap is totally ludicrous.
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tremonthustler1
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JetLife
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more ridiculous than this is the Sacramento Kings just sold at a record valuation $530 million, $80 million more than the Warriors at $450m 2 years ago who are a much bigger draw, have a steadier fanbase, and actually sit in a media market.
Yet, the salary cap, which was supposed to go up at a faster pace is only going to $58.5 million instead of the early projections of $60m ... so only a 500k bump up.
That Sacto sale instantaneously raised the valuation of every franchise out there by a huge magnitude (e.g. the warriors in a similar market on paper gotta bump up at least $80m) ... yet the salary cap only went up 500k.
these owners feelin' like Don Draper out here just abusing the players.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
more ridiculous than this is the Sacramento Kings just sold at a record valuation $530 million, $80 million more than the Warriors at $450m 2 years ago who are a much bigger draw, have a steadier fanbase, and actually sit in a media market.
Yet, the salary cap, which was supposed to go up at a faster pace is only going to $58.5 million instead of the early projections of $60m ... so only a 500k bump up.
That Sacto sale instantaneously raised the valuation of every franchise out there by a huge magnitude (e.g. the warriors in a similar market on paper gotta bump up at least $80m) ... yet the salary cap only went up 500k.
these owners feelin' like Don Draper out here just abusing the players.
You really think the NBA's gonna jack the cap up so much based on one team sale to the point where the CBA they lost games over means nothing?
more ridiculous than this is the Sacramento Kings just sold at a record valuation $530 million, $80 million more than the Warriors at $450m 2 years ago who are a much bigger draw, have a steadier fanbase, and actually sit in a media market.
Yet, the salary cap, which was supposed to go up at a faster pace is only going to $58.5 million instead of the early projections of $60m ... so only a 500k bump up.
That Sacto sale instantaneously raised the valuation of every franchise out there by a huge magnitude (e.g. the warriors in a similar market on paper gotta bump up at least $80m) ... yet the salary cap only went up 500k.
these owners feelin' like Don Draper out here just abusing the players.
instead of me just saying basically the same thing i'll let clutchfans resident capalogist explain.
ClutchFans - View Single Post - [Salary Cap update] Projected at $58.5M
beenz
Rap Guerilla
more ridiculous than this is the Sacramento Kings just sold at a record valuation $530 million, $80 million more than the Warriors at $450m 2 years ago who are a much bigger draw, have a steadier fanbase, and actually sit in a media market.
Yet, the salary cap, which was supposed to go up at a faster pace is only going to $58.5 million instead of the early projections of $60m ... so only a 500k bump up.
That Sacto sale instantaneously raised the valuation of every franchise out there by a huge magnitude (e.g. the warriors in a similar market on paper gotta bump up at least $80m) ... yet the salary cap only went up 500k.
these owners feelin' like Don Draper out here just abusing the players.
well according to stern n' em, the NBA ain't making money, and most of these teams ain't profitable.
how the salary cap gonna barely move, yet u got a lot of players getting 10% salary increases most years? it's just not mathematically sound.
tell that to the maloofs
JetLife
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I didn't expect it to skyrocket, but there were early indications that it could have gone up to 60m after being absolutely locked for 3 years w/o any impact by actual BRI.
I'm just re-stating the discrepancy in how owners make their money and how players make their money. Owners continue to reap the benefits of increasing valuations (on the order of $xxm) while players are landlocked to split an extra $xxxk, but maybe $xm if their lucky.
Add to the fact that BRI is calc'd by the owners right? Do players have full 100% transparency into the numbers calculations and can it be audited? Because honestly the owners could be using BRI like taxes and shorting it just to hamper the salary cap. (Because clearly BRI doesn't effect franchise valuations by that ungodly amount paid for Sacramento)
beenz
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if 57% of Basketball Related Income (BRI) resulted in a $58.044 mil cap in 2010-11 and ~50% (that's what the players agreed to) of BRI results in a $58.5 mil cap in 2013-14 then that means they've been making some money.well according to stern n' em, the NBA ain't making money, and most of these teams ain't profitable.
how the salary cap gonna barely move, yet u got a lot of players getting 10% salary increases most years? it's just not mathematically sound.
tell that to the maloofs
under the old 57% BRI system the 2013-14 cap would have been $66.69 mil.
triplehate
Superstar
'Apron' advertisements OK'd by NBA for locally televised games - ESPN
The league sent a memo to its teams saying they will be permitted to sell space on what is referred to as the apron. The space covers the out-of-bounds area on the sideline between the baselines and the coaches' box where teams currently advertise their website or Twitter handles.
A team can place a company's logo on the floor in front of both team benches, but it has to be a decal. That's because teams can sell the space to a company only for games that are televised locally.
It is in lieu of putting corporate logos on jerseys, a proposal that has somewhat stalled. At one point, Silver said he believed that giving teams the rights to have a company's patch on jerseys would generate $100 million annually.
The league sent a memo to its teams saying they will be permitted to sell space on what is referred to as the apron. The space covers the out-of-bounds area on the sideline between the baselines and the coaches' box where teams currently advertise their website or Twitter handles.
A team can place a company's logo on the floor in front of both team benches, but it has to be a decal. That's because teams can sell the space to a company only for games that are televised locally.
It is in lieu of putting corporate logos on jerseys, a proposal that has somewhat stalled. At one point, Silver said he believed that giving teams the rights to have a company's patch on jerseys would generate $100 million annually.
beenz
Rap Guerilla
that's exactly what I was referring to. I think we are agreeing here.
beenz
Rap Guerilla
ads on the jerseys themselves is kinda tacky. especially in a league that's not hurting for money. but it makes total sense in the WNBA where the thirst is real :nigerianmad:
yeah. i think the owners were just trying to keep wage inflation in check since they don't trust each other. if the cap was 66m this year then a lot of unworthy players would be eating big this year. the players had no leverage because they live a paycheck to paycheck lifestyle even though they are upper class in terms of income and had to bend over and take a 12% reduction in the cap.
beenz
Rap Guerilla
so the NBA has graciously decided to raise the cap to $58.6M from about $58M despite most players getting 10% raises and what not. so the cap only went up 1/% approximately 
also, I just saw that 6 teams will be paying the tax this year, which is the most ever. how are teams sposed to operate within the cap when the average salary is around $6M a year? I just don't get it.
and as we have all seen in free agency so far, GM's still happy to give out stupid deals.
also, I just saw that 6 teams will be paying the tax this year, which is the most ever. how are teams sposed to operate within the cap when the average salary is around $6M a year? I just don't get it.
and as we have all seen in free agency so far, GM's still happy to give out stupid deals.
tremonthustler1
aka bx_representer
so the NBA has graciously decided to raise the cap to $58.6M from about $58M despite most players getting 10% raises and what not. so the cap only went up 1/% approximately
also, I just saw that 6 teams will be paying the tax this year, which is the most ever. how are teams sposed to operate within the cap when the average salary is around $6M a year? I just don't get it.
and as we have all seen in free agency so far, GM's still happy to give out stupid deals.
by drafting well and actually valuing 2nd round picks which cost less than $1 mil. Just like in football, grab the bargains where you can find them.
if anything, you've seen more bargains this summer, especially in comparison to past seasons. There's still a big group of free agents remaining that will get undercut by the amount of teams either not spending money or staying under the lux. Those guys will wind up more appropriately valued than they used to be (Kaman and Collison are 2 big examples of this).