Manchin just killed the Biden administration UPDATE: They're still working

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They always do that.

Buh buh buh who is going to pay for it.

But when it comes to trillions of dollars of military spending, foreign aid, tax cuts. Somehow we have the money and room in the deficit for these expensive endeavors


We spent 6 trillion on Iraq for god sakes.


The rumination over deficit is a duplicitous lie
Always has been, and the average joe asking loser questions about “who’s gonna pay for it” while the rich and corporations get endless tax breaks, subsidies, bailouts etc is the definition of being a cuck. I assume those people enjoy watching other men fukk their wives :heh:
 

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I felt like I was having a fever dream as that shyt went on. These people are either incredibly stupid or complicit. I hate Nancy but I think she knew exactly what she was doing. This is what the moderates and conservatives in the party wanted. They won

In politics where strategy matters, I refuse to believe that they didn't know what was going to happen, so I'd say complicit. I'm guessing in their minds, they were well aware that Manchin wasn't going to give the go ahead on both bills, so there was no purpose of delaying the infrastructure one and lobbyist bread in the process.

It's why I was always :patrice: when people were insisting that Biden's history in Congress could help wrangle in Manchin and force the tie needed to bring in Harris.
 

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I just want it legalized it so I can grow it and sell it while our country goes to shyt :ehh:
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Carpe diem breh


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No wonder that shyt failed. If Dems we're trying to sneak immigration reform in the Bill. There is no telling what other crap they would try to pass that's unpopular. Who the hell thought this was a good idea with the crisis at the Border?
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Senate Parliamentarian: Build Back Better Bill Can’t Include Immigration

MacDonough, a nonpartisan official tasked with interpreting the Senate’s often-confusing bylaws, claimed that the proposed addition to the bill – a plan to allow 6.5 million undocumented immigrants within the United States to apply for work permits, legitimizing their work status and helping to protect them from deportation – could not be reasonably included under the category of “budget reconciliation.”
 

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Fukk you thought it was?
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How you gonna ROFL with a hollow back?
You probably don't want to hear this but black employment has been at its highest when the right has controlled the entire government
You realize that this is because we don’t have proper social safety nets in this country, and a ridiculous minimum wage, when we have a government that is telling you to pick yourself up by your bootstraps, everybody, not just black people, need to work 2+ Jobs just to live. That’s great if you have the energy, and hustle to work your life away, but people shouldn’t have to live like that. It’s very hard to see if you are super happy with capitalism, but not everybody is. Through our interactions on here, I know you are a “Got mine, fukk yours” type of person, and that’s fine, nobody can tell anybody how to live, I used to see it that way too, but now, with my wife on disability, I have seen closely how the govt works and how our most vulnerable citizens are treated, and I just can’t sit here and pretend like this is okay. I make more than enough to support us, I have a great job, I’m pretty much living a comfortable, upper middle class life, financially, I have benefited a great deal from Republicans running the govt, socially, my family and I have benefited so much more from Dem leadership, local and big govt, both. The 2 party system is so fukking broken, but the Republic*nt party today is absolutely evil and harmful to all Americans that aren’t rich and white, that’s fact, any argument otherwise is just wrong and misinformation.
 

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No wonder that shyt failed. If Dems we're trying to sneak immigration reform in the Bill. There is no telling what other crap they would try to pass that's unpopular. Who the hell thought this was a good idea with the crisis at the Border?
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Senate Parliamentarian: Build Back Better Bill Can’t Include Immigration

MacDonough, a nonpartisan official tasked with interpreting the Senate’s often-confusing bylaws, claimed that the proposed addition to the bill – a plan to allow 6.5 million undocumented immigrants within the United States to apply for work permits, legitimizing their work status and helping to protect them from deportation – could not be reasonably included under the category of “budget reconciliation.”


Be disingenuous brehs
 

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You realize that this is because we don’t have proper social safety nets in this country, and a ridiculous minimum wage, when we have a government that is telling you to pick yourself up by your bootstraps, everybody, not just black people, need to work 2+ Jobs just to live. That’s great if you have the energy, and hustle to work your life away, but people shouldn’t have to live like that. It’s very hard to see if you are super happy with capitalism, but not everybody is. Through our interactions on here, I know you are a “Got mine, fukk yours” type of person, and that’s fine, nobody can tell anybody how to live, I used to see it that way too, but now, with my wife on disability, I have seen closely how the govt works and how our most vulnerable citizens are treated, and I just can’t sit here and pretend like this is okay. I make more than enough to support us, I have a great job, I’m pretty much living a comfortable, upper middle class life, financially, I have benefited a great deal from Republicans running the govt, socially, my family and I have benefited so much more from Dem leadership, local and big govt, both. The 2 party system is so fukking broken, but the Republic*nt party today is absolutely evil and harmful to all Americans that aren’t rich and white, that’s fact, any argument otherwise is just wrong and misinformation.
It all depends on the times. Now? Because of pandemic spending. We don't need New taxes. Build back better didn't have enough oversizite. Needs to be spiced up some
 

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Be disingenuous brehs
How is that not going to cause even more illegals to flood the border? The plan is to create all kinds of loopholes and then create some kind of backdoor amnesty. This has been their playbook for years. Yet nothing specifically for their most loyal voting block.
 

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How is that not going to cause even more illegals to flood the border? The plan is to create all kinds of loopholes and then create some kind of backdoor amnesty. This has been their playbook for years. Yet nothing specifically for their most loyal voting block.


Because none of what you just brought up has anything to do with manchins opposition.


Grow up and start being conscientious of the talking points you are putting forth.

Even if you are going to be disingenuous, make the points relevant.
 
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Because none of what you just brought up has anything to do with manchins opposition.


Grow up and start being conscientious of the talking points you are putting forth.

Even if you are giving to be disingenuous, make the points relevant.
Black folks getting into bed with racist whites on immigration has never made sense to me. Especially if you actually like capitalism in which case you should be in favor of a cheap work force that doesn’t receive government benefits

immigration is also a net positive for the country. There’s literally no good reason to be against it. With that said immigration has dikk all to do with this situation. It’s people playing right wing talking points bingo because they don’t actually know shyt.
 
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