Manufacturing Jobs Are Never Coming Back

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Even if production is owned by the state, the state will still find ways to cut corners and save money which means that there will still be heavy automation

Automation is great if we can share the dividends. I don't want the state to freeze technological process I want the state to own the means of production so profit is democratically owned.
 

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Automation is great if we can share the dividends. I don't want the state to freeze technological process I want the state to own the means of production so profit is democratically owned.

The state wouldnt divide the profits democratically though. Those who control the state would just extract the extra revenue for themselves
 

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:manny: As said before in this thread, there is no advancement in re-education of the average worker's skillset

A massive bubble is on the horizon, class consciousness is nea
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Very spooky but necessary....in 20 years I wouldn't be surprised if gainful employment type jobs shrink by 20-30 percent, something has to give
 

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Very spooky but necessary....in 20 years I wouldn't be surprised if gainful employment type jobs shrink by 20-30 percent, something has to give

Thats on a safe estimate.

70% of service industry jobs will be obsolete
Manufacturing jobs are basically out the door already

White collar (none decision making jobs) will be obsolete.

You can have one Artificial Intelligence run your entire company

1. Conduct your data forecasts
2. Risk Management
3. All network IT related tasts
4. Calculate formulas and production
5. Run your assembly line
6. Do you books

Multinational Companies will no longer have thousands if even hundreds of people working non physical labor jobs
 

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I've been trying to tell as many people as I can about this. The most common job in America is a truck driver. When automation is finally reliable enough to were semis will be driving themselves....it's a wrap. Your going to have millions unemployed. Society will make a dramatic shift. Knowing how this is America we will fukk it up and have another civil war :manny:
 

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if the uber-automation worked in everyone's favor then we wouldn't have to work all that much

get food and clothing production locked down and distributed to everyone

This is all we're saying. :mjcry:

But fellow workers rather argue and fight tooth and nail against us to protect their masters' interests.
 

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if the uber-automation worked in everyone's favor then we wouldn't have to work all that much

get food and clothing production locked down and distributed to everyone
We are nowhere near the point where food production can be automated.

If we were, it would have been, long long ago.
 

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Think about what an atomized hellscape of a society we are that technology advancing to a point that some work is no longer necessary is viewed as a bogeyman and not a great thing.

The obvious answer here is public ownership of the means of production and democratic distribution of goods and resources.

We should also talk about how irrational off shore production of goods that can be made anywhere is. It's an ecological disaster.

They don't hear us though. :mjcry:

Claim to be a rational and scientific society while destroying the planet and having people struggle in the midst of abundance, brehs and brehettes.
 

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We are nowhere near the point where food production can be automated.

If we were, it would have been, long long ago.

It's not automated but it's highly mechanized and can easily produce enough nutrients for everyone at a low cost. The problem lies in WHAT we're producing. And that's rooted in people's eating habits, which is rooted in the fda's health parameters, which is rooted in......the pockets of giant food production corporations that generate disgusting unhealthy food.

But that's a different thread.
 
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