That doesn't work for the wealthy as history has shown
Manufacturing Jobs Are Never Coming Back
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plushcarpet
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universal basic income will fix the automation problem
the thing it won't fix is human boredom, jobs satisfy an urge that we don't even realize we crave yet
the thing it won't fix is human boredom, jobs satisfy an urge that we don't even realize we crave yet
universal basic income will fix the automation problem
the thing it won't fix is human boredom, jobs satisfy an urge that we don't even realize we crave yet
Our next job as a human species would be to create/explore (space exploration and habitation)
plushcarpet
Superstar
but we'd use robots for that too
but we'd use robots for that too
Less work for me. shyt may get real if robots ever develop self-awareness 
plushcarpet
Superstar
I mean when we teach robots how to build themselves, what need is there for humans?
Ol’Otis
The Picasso of the Ghetto
but what services is the question?STEM
But adapting the service economy is really where it's at....
I mean when we teach robots how to build themselves, what need is there for humans?
The only hope is for human/machine integration. We all become robots in some semblance or the other in an effort of evolution and self preservation
Doesn't matter just find your niche.....but what services is the question?
People these days are caking off doing random mundane tasks that others won't do like laundry,walking the dog, house cleaning etc....
Just learn a skill or trade, or being willing to do something others won't do any market your services
President Obama Was Right About Those Chinese Manufacturing Jobs: They're Never Coming Back
CROWLEY: Mr. President, we have a really short time for a quick discussion here.
iPad, the Macs, the iPhones, they are all manufactured in China. One of the major reasons is labor is so much cheaper here. How do you convince a great American company to bring that manufacturing back here?
Obama’s answer (in part) was this:
Candy, there are some jobs that are not going to come back. Because they are low wage, low skill jobs.
CROWLEY: Mr. President, we have a really short time for a quick discussion here.
iPad, the Macs, the iPhones, they are all manufactured in China. One of the major reasons is labor is so much cheaper here. How do you convince a great American company to bring that manufacturing back here?
Obama’s answer (in part) was this:
Candy, there are some jobs that are not going to come back. Because they are low wage, low skill jobs.
But as Steve Jobs of Apple spoke, Obama interrupted with an inquiry of his own: What would it take to make iPhones in the United States? Not long ago, Apple boasted that its products were made in America. Today, few are. Almost all of the 70 million iPhones, 30 million iPads and 59 million other products Apple sold last year were manufactured overseas.
Why can't that work come home? Obama asked.
Jobs' reply was unambiguous. "Those jobs aren't coming back," he said, according to another dinner guest.
The president's question touched upon a central conviction at Apple. It isn't just that workers are cheaper abroad. Rather, Apple's executives believe the vast scale of overseas factories as well as the flexibility, diligence and industrial skills of foreign workers have so outpaced their U.S. counterparts that "Made in the USA" is no longer a viable option for most Apple products.
Apple's Jobs to Obama: jobs aren't coming back to U.S.
Why can't that work come home? Obama asked.
Jobs' reply was unambiguous. "Those jobs aren't coming back," he said, according to another dinner guest.
The president's question touched upon a central conviction at Apple. It isn't just that workers are cheaper abroad. Rather, Apple's executives believe the vast scale of overseas factories as well as the flexibility, diligence and industrial skills of foreign workers have so outpaced their U.S. counterparts that "Made in the USA" is no longer a viable option for most Apple products.
Apple's Jobs to Obama: jobs aren't coming back to U.S.
President Obama has also been pushing a manufacturing agenda. Last month the president unveiled a six-point plan to eliminate tax incentives for companies to move offshore and create new lures for them to bring jobs home. “Our goal,” he says, is to “create opportunities for hard-working Americans to start making stuff again.”
Meanwhile, American consumers’ pent-up demand for appliances, cars and trucks have created a small boomlet in American manufacturing – setting off a wave of hope, mixed with nostalgic patriotism, that American manufacturing could be coming back. Clint Eastwood’s Super Bowl “Halftime in America” hit the mood exactly.
But American manufacturing won’t be coming back. Although 404,000 manufacturing jobs have been added since January 2010, that still leaves us with 5.5 million fewer factory jobs today than in July 2000 – and 12 million fewer than in 1990. The long-term trend is fewer and fewer factory jobs.
Even if we didn’t have to compete with lower-wage workers overseas, we’d still have fewer factory jobs because the old assembly line has been replaced by numerically-controlled machine tools and robotics. Manufacturing is going high-tech.
Bringing back American manufacturing isn’t the real challenge, anyway. It’s creating good jobs for the majority of Americans who lack four-year college degrees.
Manufacturing used to supply lots of these kind of jobs, but that was only because factory workers were represented by unions powerful enough to get high wages.
That’s no longer the case. Even the once-mighty United Auto Workers has been forced to accept pay packages for new hires at the Big Three that provide half what new hires got a decade ago. At $14 an hour, new auto workers earn about the same as most of America’s service-sector workers.
http://www.salon.com/2012/02/17/the_factory_jobs_arent_coming_back/
Meanwhile, American consumers’ pent-up demand for appliances, cars and trucks have created a small boomlet in American manufacturing – setting off a wave of hope, mixed with nostalgic patriotism, that American manufacturing could be coming back. Clint Eastwood’s Super Bowl “Halftime in America” hit the mood exactly.
But American manufacturing won’t be coming back. Although 404,000 manufacturing jobs have been added since January 2010, that still leaves us with 5.5 million fewer factory jobs today than in July 2000 – and 12 million fewer than in 1990. The long-term trend is fewer and fewer factory jobs.
Even if we didn’t have to compete with lower-wage workers overseas, we’d still have fewer factory jobs because the old assembly line has been replaced by numerically-controlled machine tools and robotics. Manufacturing is going high-tech.
Bringing back American manufacturing isn’t the real challenge, anyway. It’s creating good jobs for the majority of Americans who lack four-year college degrees.
Manufacturing used to supply lots of these kind of jobs, but that was only because factory workers were represented by unions powerful enough to get high wages.
That’s no longer the case. Even the once-mighty United Auto Workers has been forced to accept pay packages for new hires at the Big Three that provide half what new hires got a decade ago. At $14 an hour, new auto workers earn about the same as most of America’s service-sector workers.
http://www.salon.com/2012/02/17/the_factory_jobs_arent_coming_back/
The thing is, those of us who care about labor already know/knew this.
When we rant about the 1%, this is what we're talking about. When we spazzed about the terrible deal given to banks during the bailout, this is what we're talking about. Occupy Wall Street, this is what we're talking about.
Creating a strong social safety net around education and healthcare creates a buffer for citizens.
When we rant about the 1%, this is what we're talking about. When we spazzed about the terrible deal given to banks during the bailout, this is what we're talking about. Occupy Wall Street, this is what we're talking about.
Creating a strong social safety net around education and healthcare creates a buffer for citizens.
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