Map: The education gap between Asians and other minorities is huge in every state

[theworldismine13]

Map: The education gap between Asians and other minorities is huge in every state
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-and-other-minorities-is-huge-in-every-state/

Asian Americans, along with whites, outperform other minority groups on educational success by large margins across states, a new report finds.

That disparity was measured using the newly introduced Race for Results Index, created by the Annie E. Casey Foundation, which for a quarter century has collected data on educational achievement by race and state. The new index is based off 12 measures, such as early-childhood enrollment, test scores throughout childhood, poverty, and degree achievement. Nationally, Asians scored highest, followed relatively closely by whites. Latinos were a distant third, followed by American Indians and blacks.

“Differences in opportunity are evident from the earliest years of a child’s life,” the report’s authors write. “Too often, children of color grow up in environments where they experience high levels of poverty and violence. Such circumstances derail healthy development and lead to significant psychological and physiological trauma.”

Blacks are falling behind in nearly every state, with the lowest scores belonging to states in the South and Midwest. The states with the highest-achieving blacks students are Hawaii, New Hampshire, Utah and Alaska — all states with a relatively small black population.

Data for American Indians were only available in 25 states, but the results were similar: they lagged behind especially in the Midwest, Southwest and Mountain States. But there were differences among tribes. About one in five Apache children are likely to live in families at or above 200 percent of the poverty level, compared to one in every two Choctaw children.

Latinos fared the best among the worst performers, still giving “cause for deep concern,” the report’s authors write. Asian-American children consistently scored among the highest, the report finds. There was very little variation across states among white children, who in some states are the highest scorers.

 

[Naijan]

Map: The education gap between Asians and other minorities is huge in every state
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-and-other-minorities-is-huge-in-every-state/

Blacks are falling behind in nearly every state, with the lowest scores belonging to states in the South and Midwest. The states with the highest-achieving blacks students are Hawaii, New Hampshire, Utah and Alaska — all states with a relatively small black population.

What are there like 2 black people in Hawaii? Also I'm pretty sure Obama and his dad aren't there anymore

 

[ahomeplateslugger]

"Asian Americans, along with whites, outperform other minority groups on educational success by large margins across states, a new report finds"


deceitful and treacherous writing/reporting by cacs. instead of AA outperforming everyone they had to throw in "along with whites" to make themselves feel better huh? pathetic and lumping all AA into one group is misleading and unfair to the southeast asians who don't typically fair well in school like chinese, japanese and koreans.

why dont these cacs research and report on what helps minority kids perform better in school or how to improve low-income communities

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Asian Americans, along with whites, outperform other minority groups on educational success by large margins across states, a new report finds.

Am I missing something? Why was this thrown in there?

 

[theworldismine13]

Am I missing something? Why was this thrown in there?

"Asian Americans, along with whites, outperform other minority groups on educational success by large margins across states, a new report finds"


deceitful and treacherous writing/reporting by cacs. instead of AA outperforming everyone they had to throw in "along with whites" to make themselves feel better huh? pathetic and lumping all AA into one group is misleading and unfair to the southeast asians who don't typically fair well in school like chinese, japanese and koreans.

why dont these cacs research and report on what helps minority kids perform better in school or how to improve low-income communities

the author is indian or something close which i think classifies as asian

Niraj Chokshi reports for GovBeat, The Post's state and local policy blog. Before that he had covered economic, budget, tax and transportation policy for National Journal, blogged at The Atlantic and reported on the business of the nation's largest law firms in California for The Recorder

 

[88m3]

Are Asians taking your job too, op? Do they need to go back to where they came from?

 

[theworldismine13]

Are Asians taking your job too, op? Do they need to go back to where they came from?

if they are here illegally, yeah

do you know the difference between legal and illegal?

 

[lakinta]

if they are here illegally, yeah

do you know the difference between legal and illegal?

to be fair, the existence of a set of laws shouldn't dictate what you think about those laws. If this was the case, then we could justify any number of human rights abuses. Obvious example is slavery in the 19th century.

"Asian Americans, along with whites, outperform other minority groups on educational success by large margins across states, a new report finds"


deceitful and treacherous writing/reporting by cacs. instead of AA outperforming everyone they had to throw in "along with whites" to make themselves feel better huh? pathetic and lumping all AA into one group is misleading and unfair to the southeast asians who don't typically fair well in school like chinese, japanese and koreans.

why dont these cacs research and report on what helps minority kids perform better in school or how to improve low-income communities

truer words never been spoken. In their zeal to group all Asians together, these 'scholars' show how disingenuous they are. Cambodians and Laotians sure ain't doin that well in school either. But presumably because they have slanted eyes, we should ignore those discrepancies, pit them side by side black people and tell ourselves how with the right "culture" you can make it.

They should instead release a study that surveys educational discrepancies according to more important criteria, such as the tax base of a particular locality.

 

[theworldismine13]

to be fair, the existence of a set of laws shouldn't dictate what you think about those laws. If this was the case, then we could justify any number of human rights abuses. Obvious example is slavery in the 19th century.

unless it is shown that a law is violating individual rights and economic rights then there is nothing inherently wrong with the law, that is the standard i use

 

[Camile.Bidan]

"Asian Americans, along with whites, outperform other minority groups on educational success by large margins across states, a new report finds"


deceitful and treacherous writing/reporting by cacs. instead of AA outperforming everyone they had to throw in "along with whites" to make themselves feel better huh? pathetic and lumping all AA into one group is misleading and unfair to the southeast asians who don't typically fair well in school like chinese, japanese and koreans.

why dont these cacs research and report on what helps minority kids perform better in school or how to improve low-income communities

The largest SEA groups are vietnamese and filipinos. both groups fair well in America. In fact, 4 of 7 SEA groups do well in education. there are less than 500k hmong,lao and cambodians in America. Their impact is close to nil.

last time i checked the STAR exam results for California, Filipinos (the largest SEA group) narrow ed the gap between whites and themselves significantly. I am too lazy to look for those results though.

 

[lakinta]

unless it is shown that a law is violating individual rights and economic rights then there is nothing inherently wrong with the law, that is the standard i use

Right, I don't want to side track your thread. So all i'll say is that when you start your thinking with "do you know the difference between legal and illegal?" you are actually making a whole set of assumptions about states, sovereignty and border control. However, if the US has been violating the sovereignty of other peoples since at least the Mexican-American War (often compelling migration in the process), what legs do your cries about "legality" have to stand on? Put differently, if the US achieved global dominance partly through the violation of other people's sovereignty, how can it turn around and cry about its own sovereignty being undermined?

 

[Jesus]

Asians are "white" though...

 

[theworldismine13]

Right, I don't want to side track your thread. So all i'll say is that when you start your thinking with "do you know the difference between legal and illegal?" you are actually making a whole set of assumptions about states, sovereignty and border control. However, if the US has been violating the sovereignty of other peoples since at least the Mexican-American War (often compelling migration in the process), what legs do your cries about "legality" have to stand on? Put differently, if the US achieved global dominance partly through the violation of other people's sovereignty, how can it turn around and cry about its own sovereignty being undermined?

yeah im definitely making assumptions about states, sovereignty ad border control, is there something wrong with that?


i think you need to stop conflating morality and legality, the us mexican border is defined by a legal document signed by the mexican government, so the cries of "legality" stand on a legal document as all cries of legality should stand on

if you believe that document to be immoral then you should say that, but that doesnt make the treaty illegal or make it go away

and your argument on sovereignty again seems to be based on morality also, which is fishy, if you go into a nation state without permission you are violating that nations sovereignty, now if you feel that for some moral reason you dont need to respect that soverignty that's simply your personal views

my views on sovereignty are based on my personal interest, its not based on morality, at the end of the day there is nothing in nature that says the united states needs to exist, the united states exists in your mind and a gun basically, just like every other country, but my support of us soverignty is based on my personal interest, i dont really care if somebody feels they have the moral right to violate US sovereignty, for me they have to explain why what they are doing is in my interests, that is how i would judge it

 

[lakinta]

yeah im definitely making assumptions about states, sovereignty ad border control, is there something wrong with that?


i think you need to stop conflating morality and legality, the us mexican border is defined by a legal document signed by the mexican government, so the cries of "legality" stand on a legal document as all cries of legality should stand on

if you believe that document to be immoral then you should say that, but that doesnt make the treaty illegal or make it go away

and your argument on sovereignty again seems to be based on morality also, which is fishy, if you go into a nation state without permission you are violating that nations sovereignty, now if you feel that for some moral reason you dont need to respect that soverignty that's simply your personal views

my views on sovereignty are based on my personal interest, its not based on morality, at the end of the day there is nothing in nature that says the united states needs to exist, the united states exists in your mind and a gun basically, just like every other country, but my support of us soverignty is based on my personal interest, i dont really care if somebody feels they have the moral right to violate US sovereignty, for me they have to explain why what they are doing is in my interests, that is how i would judge it

I never conflated morality with legality because I never made any assertions about morality to begin with. Besides, given the relativism inherent in morality, I wouldn't really stake any claims on morality. Again, to be straight-forward with you, this is what I'm saying: is is laughable for a state that historically and presently gone about undermining other people's sovereignty -- either by forcefully acquiring land (Mexico), prying open markets (Asia, esp. China), and leading/supporting coups to advance its economic self-interest (all of Latin America; many Asian nations) -- to cry about the undermining of its own sovereignty, especially when the very same people who were/are displaced by US actions show up at its doorstep. Of course, as you say, a sovereign state and its citizenry are within their right to simply ignore this precedent. They can pretend that there is no relation between immigrants and the US state other than the one which is born at the moment of border crossing. And to that, there is nothing I can say: your state, your rules. My point is that placing our ideas about immigration in a broader context suggest we a way to productively rethink what we want to do regarding immigration policy. e.g. Why do we stop at amnesty/deportation when considering immigration policy? Why not go farther? Maybe don't intervene in the political economy of other countries and millions of people won't have to move to the US or other first-world states in the first place?

It's easy to pick a bone with a mass of impoverished people, i.e. "go home!" and think that will actually solve the immigration situation. But if you're really concerned about how x group of migrants affects your self-interest especially over the long run, you might also want to begin to question the actions of your own state.

Note: In saying all this, I don't think we should forget the role of the "sending" nations either. The Mexican government, for instance, is just as responsible for the massive displacement of people as is the US. My point would be that both states ought to work together not to come up with shyt like NAFTA that actually encourages mass migration, but instead find ways to improve the North American economy while keeping companies and migrants rooted in place.

But anyway, we should table this for now. I think we both agree that illegal immigration is a bad thing. On your side, it's because you think it is damaging to your self-interest. On my end, because i think it allows for the super exploitation of unskilled laborers. But because you pin the problems onto the migrants themselves, you think deportation is an actual long term solution. Whereas I think bi-lateral management would be more useful.

 

[superunknown23]

There's a gap between Asians and whites too.
That's why cacs are trying to roll back affirmative action in CA, with universities overrun with Asians