he's making the difference between social category and biological category. in the biological category there's only male and female. society, however has had attempted to expand the man and woman categories to accommodate those in society that identify as trans on both sides. so he's saying socially, under the "woman" umbrella you can have cis/bio women and trans and equally, under the "man" category, you can have cis/bio and trans. when people hear this, they automatically go to the biological definitions not realizing that socially (in western society) they have attempted to expand those categories for the purposes of accomodation. not saying i agree with this but social definition =/= biological definition. in any case, dems need to leave this alone right now. bigger fish to fry.
Marc Lamont Hill thinks he won this debate on trans issues with Piers Morgan. He gets confused on biology on live TV
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how about this; there are 4 kinds of people. straight men/women, and gay men/women. anything else is mental illness
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All anyone would have to tell Marc is that what he is talking is some sucka shyt and let him spiral
Democrats are completely fukked if guys like Marc Lamont Hill have influence in the party.
Marc is a pandering loser if he thinks he won this debate.
Piers Morgan: can a woman have a penis?
Marc: A trans woman may have a penis. A cis woman may have not have one
Another thread of you deep throating republican dikk.
whats the republican talking point?
OK, so if you can’t change your sex, then what are we changing? Marc himself says sex is real. Why is he going beyond that to then say “trans women are women?”
Trans people bad
Democrats are completely fukked if guys like Marc Lamont Hill have influence in the party.
Marc is a pandering loser if he thinks he won this debate.
Piers Morgan: can a woman have a penis?
Marc: A trans woman may have a penis. A cis woman may have not have one
c00n looking for the LBGTQ pat on the head
how about this; there are 4 kinds of people. straight men/women, and gay men/women. anything else is mental illness
you can't use sexual attraction to classify sex. bruce jenner is trans, but has only been with bio women. that would make him a straight man biologically but a lesbian 'woman' socially.
shyt is too confusing for the average person to think about. and dems don't make it any better.
the lgbt community's first problem was adding the 't' to lgbt. if lgb signifies sexual attractions, them adding the "t' shoots them in the foot because people now associate the t's with a sexual attraction instead of a social category under gender. but instead of the lgb community dropping the t's, people are now having to circle back and now explain you can be 't' and be straight, gay and everything in between, and that just adds more confusion.
the problem is shyt wasn't well thought out. even the lgbt community is confused and don't have all the right language.
but in their confusion, and in their urgency to take advantage of the gains they made under the obama administration, t's put pressure on lgbt advocacy groups, and lgbt advocacy groups started pressuring dems to promote certain talking points without the right contextual language, which makes dems spout off doubling the confusion. it's confusion upon confusion.
like I said, this is a clusterfukk and they need to leave this alone.
i don't want this to look like i'm advocating for this because I'm not. i'm just telling my logic as i see it with this issue.
- male = biological category that can't be changed.
- boy, man = social construct that can be added to/subtracted from whenever society seems.
- female = biological category that can't be changed.
- girl woman = social construct that can be added to/subtracted from whenever society deems.
so if marc is saying sex can be changed, he's saying "socially" it can be changed (or expanded) because society can add to or take away from whatever societal definitions as it deems necessary.
however, if he's saying biological sex can be changed, that's a lie, and he and dems need to rightfully be called out on it. it would be better for them to say that 'external' sexual organs can be modified but that does not change inherent biological sex. but again, this is too much for the average person just to "get" off rip so they need to pause.
i look at it similar to race. this is why someone like ann dibble jordan, who is phenotypically white, is socially categorized as black via the one drop rule.
also why irish, Italians and latinos*, although being (*latinos can be) phenotypically white, were at one point, not deemed such until society expanded the social definition of whiteness at the turn of the 20th century.
that's how I look at it. societal definitions can expand or subtract. biology absolutely cannot.
now asking if society can or should "morally" do this at will is another question altogether.
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Not watching the video, but Marc is correct.
conscious lee was on this shyt too
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ok, so do it.